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Renouncing Religion

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From this point forth, I will now identify as atheist. Probably about 75% of my reasoning for dumping Christianity has to do with the logical fallacies I've found in its teachings. The other 25% that drove to my identification as an atheist has to do with the bigoted attitudes of ultra-conservative churches, and the sociopolitical turmoil that is inherently produced with the existence of religions. I no longer wish to be identified with any organizations that endorse and impose religious beliefs. Thank you, and good day.
 

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From this point forth, I will now identify as atheist. Probably about 75% of my reasoning for dumping Christianity has to do with the logical fallacies I've found in its teachings. The other 25% that drove to my identification as an atheist has to do with the bigoted attitudes of ultra-conservative churches, and the sociopolitical turmoil that is inherently produced with the existence of religions. I no longer wish to be identified with any organizations that endorse and impose religious beliefs. Thank you, and good day.

Is your beef with Jesus or His followers?
 
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From this point forth, I will now identify as atheist. Probably about 75% of my reasoning for dumping Christianity has to do with the logical fallacies I've found in its teachings. The other 25% that drove to my identification as an atheist has to do with the bigoted attitudes of ultra-conservative churches, and the sociopolitical turmoil that is inherently produced with the existence of religions. I no longer wish to be identified with any organizations that endorse and impose religious beliefs. Thank you, and good day.

Please list some fallacies to back up your decision.

Politics is everywhere, even in the churches. Did you try to find a less conservative church environment?

You have a good day too. :)
 
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These are nice and all but i believe the request was for a "Logical Fallacies." Not general contradictions to popular culture or belief.

The Earth is 4.54 billion years old. The Bible points toward an Earth that was created only a few thousand years ago. Common sense aptly explains the absurdity that is the latter measurement. Mind you, this isn't the only reason that I find the Bible bogus.

I encourage you all to read literature outside of the Bible. And if you have a third-grade reading level, as most people who outright reject scientific fact do, sorry, I can't help you.
 
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The Earth is 4.54 billion years old. The Bible points toward an Earth that was created only a few thousand years ago. Common sense aptly explains the absurdity that is the latter measurement. Mind you, this isn't the only reason that I find the Bible bogus.

I encourage you all to read literature outside of the Bible. And if you have a third-grade reading level, as most people who outright reject scientific fact do, sorry, I can't help you.

Perhaps you better stop posting here then because we won't be able to understand you.
 
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The Earth is 4.54 billion years old. The Bible points toward an Earth that was created only a few thousand years ago. Common sense aptly explains the absurdity that is the latter measurement. Mind you, this isn't the only reason that I find the Bible bogus.
Good because the bible does not point to the earth only being a few thousand years old. There is literally no Book Chapter or verse that gives the earth an age.


I encourage you all to read literature outside of the Bible. And if you have a third-grade reading level, as most people who outright reject scientific fact do, sorry, I can't help you.
:) It's cute that you think that just because you had your "faith" taken by the first few books you read outside of the bible that would be doomed to your fate.
 
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How about the idea that God created the world in 6 days, vs, geology?

6 days are metaphorical. isn't that obvious???

How about the idea that God is love, vs, church opposition to cervical cancer vacination or psalm 144?

my church is not opposed to vaccination but i believe she should! if you investigate vaccines you'll find some very interesting things.
specifically for cervical cancer, which i have investigated, the story is not that clear and beautiful.
in Greece babies receive around 26 vaccines until the age of 2. 26 vaccines that each of them include not just 1 virus antibody (if i say it correct), i know of one that has 13 antibody viruses!
why would we insert strange substances to a such fragile organism as an infant-baby, when their own immune system is not yet well formed?
why would you receive the so called cervical cancer vaccine, when it's going to be tested on you?

what has God's love to do with rejecting vaccination?
for me, rejecting vaccination shows love to myself and to nature. my body is not to be used by science for whatever reason science may want to use it. also, science does fatal mistakes, which are found after disease or death...that is our disease or death...

i am against vaccination. sorry, nothing personal.

Amen is a corruption of the word Amoun. This is the Egyptian god of darkness the god of gods. The god in the temple of Luxor. A human idea.

i have heard of this. but still there is another interpretation. Amen is jewish and means "so be it".

i am not Catholic but you can have a look here if interested.

"In the Holy Scripture it appears almost invariably as an adverb, and its primary use is to indicate that the speaker adopts for his own what has already been said by another. "
 
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Actually, I was a Christian before I went to college and after studying other religions and views, it only strengthened my beliefs. I love talking to people with different beliefs because I am not the type of person to bash people over the head with my own thoughts and not take theirs into consideration. I treat it as a healthy debate. On the other hand, I don’t think that non-believers should necessarily reject the idea that the Bible is true without having a logical argument (since human logic is typically the basis of Atheist natured beliefs).

Atheism is basically the belief that no God or deities exist. Life just happened. Although much of evolution can have a valid argument that seems to make sense, you can only go back in time so far before it is unexplainable. Similar to Christianity, Atheism requires a certain amount of faith as well. The difference is in where the faith lies. Do you believe that a God exists or in a man-made theory?

A few things that science can agree with that also match the Bible:

The Great Flood – The fact that there was a massive flood that covered the earth is agreed upon by science.

Jesus Christ – The fact that he lived is agreed upon by science. Whether or not he was the Son of God is the debate of course.

These are just a few, but do not forget that science is constantly evolving it’s theories as well. Not one time has the Bible later been proven to be false, but previous scientific theories are constantly being re-evaluated due to finding out they were wrong.

The Bible and Science Agree

The Bible has always been right, but science is constantly finding out that they were wrong. Just some thoughts. :)
 
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To the OP,

So what is it you want help with or advice on, or do you just feel like ranting?

He will probably want help when he decides to go back to God. At this moment in time he appears off at a tangent - just hope he doesn't get disillusioned with the reality of atheist life.
 
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Sorry to hear you just made the worst decision of your whole life. But there is still hope for you. You think God will not reveal himself to you. The truth is if you seek after God with a true heart you will find him. I have found God to be the kindest, most loving, and helpful individual on the planet. My web site is full of examples of God showing himself to me and helping other people along the way. Healing, prophecy, stuff like that, before you abandone faith for ever have a read, it might be long but it is not as long as a book or anything, and when your future is at stake you might as well read my case for life. Know God Personally
 
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The Earth is 4.54 billion years old. The Bible points toward an Earth that was created only a few thousand years ago. Common sense aptly explains the absurdity that is the latter measurement. Mind you, this isn't the only reason that I find the Bible bogus.

I encourage you all to read literature outside of the Bible. And if you have a third-grade reading level, as most people who outright reject scientific fact do, sorry, I can't help you.

And yet, there are Christians (me included) that hold with that fact of the actual age of 4.54 billion years...
Not all of us are literalists.
 
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LOL, not nasty at all. To be honest, from a Christian point of view he has already "failed" but, the Lord will accept failures, rejects etc... at anytime so long as they are true about their repentance.

I'm not going to gloat at all. I've made some major mistakes and had failures of my own in various aspects of life - as we all tend to do.

Actually, I'm not sure why he wanted to post about his rejection in the first place. It's seems like he was wanting to poke a stick at Christian's and gloat by telling us were all wrong.

Nope. I'm just coming to terms with my personal beliefs. I'm looking for acceptance and understanding rather than intolerance and proselytization.
 
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And I'm "sure" there exists a mountain made of pancakes with syrup rivers running down its sides. Mentioning things you are "sure" of without any logical explanation won't get you very far.
You asked, I answered what you asked.

My answer simply points to a flood that covered all that was known to be the world. This may or may not mean a planet wide flood. We are told the flood covered the world. We were not specifically told the flood covered the planet, but at the same time were not told it didn't. To assume that it did or did not speaks where the bible does not speak. What it does say is that "the Flood" covered the world.

('erets eh'-rets from an unused root probably meaning to be firm; the earth (at large, or partitively a land):--X common, country, earth, field, ground, land, X natins, way, + wilderness, world.)

In short the known world

My answer reflects what the bible states.
 
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The other 25% that drove to my identification as an atheist has to do with the bigoted attitudes of ultra-conservative churches, and the sociopolitical turmoil that is inherently produced with the existence of religions. I no longer wish to be identified with any organizations that endorse and impose religious beliefs. Thank you, and good day.

With respect, this argument is silly.

Do you also wish to cease to be known as a man because of all the sexual violence inflicted by men against defenceless women over the years?

Do you wish to cease to be known as an American because of all the rednecks who have appeared on shows like Jerry Springer over the years?

and so on...
 
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