Removing the laws of God- what does it really mean?

[Nathan@work]

Did God, Jesus, or the Apostles ever say that the tablets are above all other commandments?

 

[Nathan@work]

It seems a lot of doctrine is based on material and location of the law.

If we were to make such a huge difference, essentially between life and death, based on those two things - why don’t we see it written anywhere as such?

 

[Clare73]

Well none of that is true Clare as post # 1006 linked
does everything your claiming I have not done.

You do not exegete Galatians 3:7-4:13 in your replies.

Unless your able to respond to my posts and scriptures that disagree with your claims lets agree to disagree and end the discussion. Thanks for sharing your thoughts though

Agreed.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

You do not exegete Galatians 3:7-4:13 in your replies.

Yes I did (you mean Hebrews 3:7 to Hebrews 4:13 right not Galatians?) in addressing your post section by section and scripture by scripture with scripture showing why your claims were not biblical. If you disagree please respond to post # 1006 linked showing why you disagree. If not it is fine and you do not have to. There is no point in continuing the discussion as we are in disagreement but you cannot tell me why you disagree.

 

[Clare73]

Yes I did (you mean Hebrews 3:7 to Hebrews 4:13 right not Galatians?) in addressing your post section by section and scripture by scripture with scripture showing why your claims were not biblical. If you disagree please respond to post # 1006 linked showing why you disagree. If not it is fine and you do not have to. There is no point in continuing the discussion as we are in disagreement.

You have not put the verses of the passage together a unified version of all its points.

Do you know what exegesis is?
It's not refuting points.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Yes. The answer is yes.

Exodus 24:12 (ESV) The LORD said to Moses, “Come up to me on the mountain and wait there, that I may give you the tablets of stone, with the law and the commandment, which I have written for their instruction.”

He is referring to the TEN.

Deuteronomy 31:9
So Moses wrote this law and gave it to the priests, the sons of Levi who carried the ark of the covenant of the Lord, and to all the elders of Israel.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Has anybody mentioned yet that the New Testament writers never use the word “ten” with the word “commandments”?

So why is it so many people make a distinction between what was written on tablets and what was written on parchment?

They are referred to as God's commandments, His commandments, My commandments and that was established in the Ten by God. Exodus 20:6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments. Same verbiage throughout the bible

Just a few....

Mathew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Revelations 12:17 17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Revelations 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.

 

[Nathan@work]

He is referring to the TEN.

Deuteronomy 31:9
So Moses wrote this law and gave it to the priests, the sons of Levi who carried the ark of the covenant of the Lord, and to all the elders of Israel.

Exodus 24:12 (ESV) The LORD said to Moses, “Come up to me on the mountain and wait there, that I may give you the tablets of stone, with the law and the commandment, which I have written for their instruction.”

This is not only speaking of the tablets. God specifically says the law and the commandment.

Deuteronomy 4 also. Gods commands are His and His alone. He chose Moses to deliver them, but they all came from God. They were not Moses, they were all Gods.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Did God, Jesus, or the Apostles ever say that the tablets are above all other commandments?

Paul said
1 Corinthians 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God is what matters.

Jesus said John 15:10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

So what do you have against God’s commandments? Why don’t you think they are significant? They teach us how to love God (Tablet 1 commandments 1-4) and how to love each other (Tablet 2 5-10) which Jesus summarized. God bless

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Exodus 24:12 (ESV) The LORD said to Moses, “Come up to me on the mountain and wait there, that I may give you the tablets of stone, with the law and the commandment, which I have written for their instruction.”

This is not only speaking of the tablets. God specifically says the law and the commandment.

Deuteronomy 4 also. Gods commands are His and His alone. He chose Moses to deliver them, but they all came from God. They were not Moses, they were all Gods.

The commandments are the laws.

 

[Nathan@work]

They are referred to as God's commandments, His commandments, My commandments and that was established in the Ten by God. Exodus 20:6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments. Same verbiage throughout the bible

Just a few....

Mathew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Revelations 12:17 17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Revelations 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.

God had more commandments than just ten.

 

[Nathan@work]

Paul said
1 Corinthians 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God is what matters.

Jesus said John 15:10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

So what do you have against God’s commandments? Why don’t you think they are significant? They teach us how to love God (Tablet 1 commandments 1-4) and how to love each other (Tablet 2 5-10) which Jesus summarized. God bless

I don’t have anything against His commandments.

I simply refuse to believe the lie that He gave only ten.

Matthew 5:18-19 (ESV) For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

God had more commandments than just ten.

Never said that He didn’t, the Ten are His eternal moral laws that He wrote with His own finger. They were placed in the Ark in the holy of holy in the Temple. God spoke to Moses other ceremonial laws, dietary laws etc.

 

[Nathan@work]

The commandments are the laws.

Exactly! All the laws are His commandments!

 

[SabbathBlessings]

I don’t have anything against His commandments.

I simply refuse to believe the lie that He gave only ten.

Matthew 5:18-19 (ESV) For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

And this included His Ten, if you read what I have written over and over God gave more laws than the TEN. However, the 10 were given differently than all others.

 

[Nathan@work]

Never said that He didn’t, the Ten are His eternal moral laws that He wrote with His own finger. They were placed in the Ark in the holy of holy in the Temple. God spoke to Moses other ceremonial laws, dietary laws etc.

Where does it say that only the tablets are His “eternal moral law”?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Where does it say that only the tablets are His “eternal moral law”?

Go back to post #1.

 

[Nathan@work]

And this included His Ten, if you read what I have written over and over God gave more laws than the TEN. However, the 10 were given differently than all others.

The ten words were given on a different material. A material does not designate something to be lesser or greater. That is human ideology.

 

[Nathan@work]

Go back to post #1.

You make the distinction, not God.

Where does God say it?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

The ten words were given on a different material. A material does not designate something to be lesser or greater. That is human ideology.

Weird, previously you said God does nothing by accident. Now, His Will, His laws that tells us how to obey and love Him and tells us how to love each other has no significance that the laws He wrote and spoke and placed on stone, now means nothing....? You are welcome to believe as you wish, but there IS significance to it being written on stone by God’s finger and also placed inside the Ark.