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I thought Moses wrote what God instructed him to do...Do you believe that one the scripture says,
"And the LORD called unto Moses, and spake unto him out of the tabernacle of the congregation, saying, 2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them..."
that the instructions that follow were written by Moses?
I agree that Moses wrote them down, but it looks to me like they came from the mind of God, and are based on his character.
Using today's English, I think we would say that God wrote them in the sense that he is the author, and Moses wrote them down.
No, thats not true. Those are God’s commandments, the Ten summarized. The first tablet is how we love God, the second how we love each other.Hello imge, how about the two greatest commandments Jesus was referred to in Matthew 22...which is Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, and soul AND Love your neighbor as yourself...these two were written in the book of the law outside the Ark Not inside..
I already said the law of Moses was given by God written by Moses. God’s laws was written and spoken by Him. They were also written on stone.Do you believe that one the scripture says,
"And the LORD called unto Moses, and spake unto him out of the tabernacle of the congregation, saying, 2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them..."
that the instructions that follow were written by Moses?
I agree that Moses wrote them down, but it looks to me like they came from the mind of God, and are based on his character.
Using today's English, I think we would say that God wrote them in the sense that he is the author, and Moses wrote them down.
They wrote on the book of the law...Leviticus 19:18, Deuteronomy 6:3No, thats not true. Those are God’s commandments, the Ten summarized. The first tablet is how we love God, the second how we love each other.
Sorry, you stopped making sense. You say in one breath God does everything for a reason, but than when He choose to write the only scripture in the entire Bible written by His own finger, God had no reason other than the other laws that were ceremonial and ended, wouldn’t fit in the Ark with the law that He wrote. We are not going to agree on this point.
God did not write with His finger any other laws other than the Ten found in Exodus 20.They wrote on the book of the law...Leviticus 19:18, Deuteronomy 6:3
The Sabbath rest spoken of in Hebrews sounds like spiritual rest to me.The Sabbath is a commandment and says to keep the Sabbath day holy. Exodus 20:8 It’s literal and spiritual. Just like thou shalt not lie, that is literal, thous shalt not murder, adultry, literal, but also starts in our hearts. Sabbath is a day of communion with God. You do not receive spiritual rest by breaking the Sabbath commandment.
Do you believe that one the scripture says,
"And the LORD called unto Moses, and spake unto him out of the tabernacle of the congregation, saying, 2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them..."
that the instructions that follow were written by Moses?
I agree that Moses wrote them down, but it looks to me like they came from the mind of God, and are based on his character.
Using today's English, I think we would say that God wrote them in the sense that he is the author, and Moses wrote them down.
I think the opposite could be said. The Bible and God made very clear how important His laws are, the Ten. God even says in the Ten who He shows mercy to:I think your set in what you want to believe and are letting it make you think I mean things I don’t.
It seems you want to make the writing on the tablet more of a law than His others. There are numerous other laws, written in the book, that had nothing to do with ceremonies.
Those laws were no more, and no less, His writing - His commandments.
Re-read Exodus and Deuteronomy - God never considers the tablets as different than the rest. Neither did Jesus, neither did the Apostles.
I guess that's where we see it differently, I don't think there is any "my" pleasure.God tells us to do all our work in six days. The seventh day we are told to keep Holy. Exodus 20:8-11. I think God wants us to be productive and doing things for our own pleasure as long as they are not sinful should be completed from days 1-6. God’s day is Holy and we are told to hallow His Sabbath day. Ezekiel 20:20
Abolishing the laws or living out the spirit of the laws instead of the letter results in the same thing in practice, imo. So a different way of saying the same thing, I think.Because those laws are abolished?---(Eph 2:15)
But God said to keep Holy the seventh day. Yes, we should worship Him daily, much different that the instructions in the 4th commandment.I guess that's where we see it differently, I don't think there is any "my" pleasure.
All is for God as Christ lives through me.
I think that's one thing that the commandment about the Sabbath teaches us.
What is it like to live one day for God? It's amazing, isn't it?
Now two days, then for days, then every day!
We were already told that in Genesis 1.The reason for the tablets was so it could be established that God was the author - of all of it.
If you try to keep the letter, you will die, imo. The spirit brings life, the letter brings death.God wants us to also keep the letter. His laws are literal and spiritual and when you put your own interpretation on something that God gave a direct command I would be careful of that. We could use that excuse for any of God’s commandments I am going to cheat on my wife, but in my mind I am faithful. Which commandment do you find the most difficult to keep?
Clare73 said:The Old (Mosaic) Covenant was bilateral, conditioned on man's obedience, and could be abrogated by man's breaking it, which it was.
The New Covenant is unilateral, entered into by faith in the person and finished work of Jesus Christ for remission of one's sin, is not subject to abrogation, nor to one falling out of it.
Saith you. God says different.Saith you. God says different.
So it’s okay to lie, steal, worship idols, vain His name etc. ?If you try to keep the letter, you will die, imo. The spirit brings life, the letter brings death.
I think that's why it is those who are led by the spirit who are not under the law. If it were my own interpretation of a commandment, you're right! that would be very dangerous!
Do you believe the Spirit has the power to lead you as you walk through life?
Clare73 said:The Old (Mosaic) Covenant was bilateral, conditioned on man's obedience, and could be abrogated by man's breaking it, which it was.
The New Covenant is unilateral, entered into by faith in the person and finished work of Jesus Christ for remission of one's sin, is not subject to abrogation, nor to one falling out of it.
Saith you. God says different.Saith you. God says different.
I think the opposite could be said. The Bible and God made very clear how important His laws are, the Ten. God even says in the Ten who He shows mercy to:
Exodus 20:6 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
I think you should probably do the re-reading. God placed His law in the Ark. There was nothing other than His laws in there, which there is a reason for it. It actually saddens me how far we have come to not value His moral laws. Jesus summarized them as the greatest because thats what they are.
Here's just some ideas,Sorry, you stopped making sense. You say in one breath God does everything for a reason, but than when He choose to write the only scripture in the entire Bible written by His own finger, God had no reason other than the other laws that were ceremonial and ended, wouldn’t fit in the Ark with the law that He wrote. We are not going to agree on this point.
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