remorse...may trigger

[Caty]

i'm afraid now that i do not have true remorse...i read somewhere that if a person does not have true remorse for their sins then they are called reprobate and will never be forgiven...i hope i have remorse...i hate my sins and i do not want to do them...is that okay??

 

[kaykay9.0]

That's fine, Caty. This is just something else your OCD is latching onto.

 

[SoldierOfSoul]

You are fine, but let me first say that when you speak of a reprobate mind you are talking about predestination of God and how He knows who will come to Him and who will reject His salvation. You know you are not a reprobate if you believe in the Gospel of Christ which is the only thing able to save our souls. Romans chapter one is one of the best chapters in the Bible on the subject, it speaks of those who have rejected God and His salvation and instead get involved in gross sins and as a result they will never come to salvation in Christ because they have rejected it.

Romans 1:24,25
24Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves,
25who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

You see these reprobates have rejected the Truth, and that is that we can be saved by grace through faith in Jesus. The lie that God has given them over to is anything that is contrary to the Gospel of Christ.

As long as you have accepted Christ or at least know that you are sinful and know that you need Christ as Saviour from your sins you do not have the reprobate mind that Paul is speaking of.

God will not give up on those that will one day repent and come to Jesus for salvation. But only He knows such things, He is the author and finisher of our faith, but this also does not give us a right to go on sinning, if you feel the need for salvation now, accept His offer, for one day if you keep running you could be given over to illusions and a lie and will no longer desire His salvation.

But Caty you have already asked Him into your heart, you have nothing to worry about, now you need to grow in your holy faith, God bless!

 

[annrobert]

i'm afraid now that i do not have true remorse...i read somewhere that if a person does not have true remorse for their sins then they are called reprobate and will never be forgiven...i hope i have remorse...i hate my sins and i do not want to do them...is that okay??

Caty, hating your sins and not wanting them is definately true remorse.You are safe Caty,you belong to Jesus, the Mighty God,the Prince of Peace, the Wonderful counsellor, our Redeemer.the all powerful Creator of heaven and earth, who came to earth to die for us and save us, who came to earth and served us who said I am meek and lowly in heart and you shall find rest for your souls.Jesus is gentle and kind and has all power and you are safe in His hand.

A reprobate does not like to retain God in their knowledge.I have not seen a single person on this ocd forum who comes any where near that.

Jesus Bless You
annrobert

 

[Caty]

thanks for helping me i'm getting so tired of all of this...i wake up with a sick "impending doom" feeling every morning....when i think about God i get that feeling also...i just wish i could rest & try to believe Jesus has forgiven me.

 

[annrobert]

Caty,
When you think about Jesus possibly not loving you and forgiving you, you feel sick, because you want to know Jesus loves you and forgives you,You want to know You will be with Jesus forever.You want Jesus to fill you with love and peace and joy and heal you.Jesus does love and forgive you and Jesus gave you the desire to know He loves and forgives you.You are safe in Jesus hand,you will never perish because you believe in Jesus.OCD is trying to deceive you,OCD is lying to you,but Jesus is truth and you shall know the truth and the Truth shall make you free.Jesus said He that cometh to Me I shall in no wise cast out.
blessings
annrobert

 

[Caty]

but can the ocd convince me i did things...like that night i posted the thought i was worried sick that i had blasphemed...you all told me i hadnt and i felt some better but i worried myself so sick for about a week after that..i lost weight and became depressed, i cried all the time and i handicaped myself to where i couldnt be anywhere by mysekf because i got anxious...so i told a pastor about it and he assured me that God would not punish me for our thoughts...so a couple weeks later i read an article on blasphemey and it said that to blaspheme you had to speak it infront of other people...weather in writing or verbally etc...so i was trying to think if i had ever said anything verbally and i haven't...then i started thinking about posting on here and that would be considered writing so i thoughts about all my posts and tired to remember if i had posted any thoughts that were related to what the pharriess said and i posted one like that...so from then on i have been worrying if i had a bad intent..i'm so scared i;m unforgivable...

 

[kaykay9.0]

Caty, just discussing something, whether verbally or in writing is NOT the same as blasphemy. And yes, to answer your question, OCD can certainly convince you that you did things you didn't because it distorts things and re-frames them in the worst possible way, if that makes any sense.

 

[Caty]

i know that just discussing them isnt, but im afraid i had a bad intent even though i was scared...like if i was mad at God or something...waht if i posted that with bad intentions...i have such bad feelings and thoughts and stuff i don't want to be like this anymore...i cant take this anymore...im so tired.

 

[Caty]

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Caty, just discussing something, whether verbally or in writing is NOT the same as blasphemy. And yes, to answer your question, OCD can certainly convince you that you did things you didn't because it distorts things and re-frames them in the worst possible way, if that makes any sense.

like if i feared doing that, it would make me think i did. see since decemeber i have been worried about this sin..so i don't understand why i would have committed it, because i have lived in so much fear of committing in in soem way...i really hope this is jsut ocd.

 

[kaykay9.0]

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like if i feared doing that, it would make me think i did. see since decemeber i have been worried about this sin..so i don't understand why i would have committed it, because i have lived in so much fear of committing in in soem way...i really hope this is jsut ocd.

Yes, Caty, it is OCD. Remember when I told you awhile back that my counselor told me one time that almost every Christian who struggles with OCD, at one time or another, thinks they have committed this sin. Our fear distorts our thinking about it.

 

[Jayangel81]

Stopping in quick.

From what you have been writing me through private messages I know very well that what you have is not just remorse but also a true genuine desire to turn away from your sin and come to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior

This is not your doing caty but rather the work of the Holy Spirit within you.

i'm afraid now that i do not have true remorse...i read somewhere that if a person does not have true remorse for their sins then they are called reprobate and will never be forgiven...i hope i have remorse...i hate my sins and i do not want to do them...is that okay??

This speaks alot to me as well

What is happening is fear is keeping you captive and making you question things on the irrational side of things because of the "ocd" Hold these words and irrational feeling and thinking captive.

 

[Caty]

I've just been so sad and kinda angry today...because i kept having these thoughts and i thought something like..."how could God send someone who wants to accept him to hell with people who never wanted him?" and i was feeling really terrible and I thought a bad thought against the Holy Spirit...I'm pretty sure it came from me...I'm so tired of this...I hate being this way...I really can't do this anymore...I jsut want to live a normal teenage life...i dont want to be depressed and crying all the time...im unforgivable & i don't feel like He loves me...i feel like i wasted that and i dont think i could ever go to heaven.

 

[annrobert]

Caty,
God will never send a person who wants to accept Him to hell with people who reject Him.
Caty Jesus said all that the Father gives to Me will come to Me and he that cometh to Me I will in no wise cast out.
Fther God loves you and He knows the trouble you are having with your mind and He knows the sadness and hurt and frustrating feeling , He knows the fear and you feeling sick with impending doom.He knows the way OCD and fear affects our thinking and thoughts and He loves you and He sent His Son to die for you,not because you are perfect and have to get this all figured out first,not because you have to become just right first.No Jesus invites us to come just as we are.That is why Jesus died for us.You are safe Caty,you belong to Jesus and He will not let you go.

Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout, O daughter of Jerusalem! Behold, your King is coming to you; He is just and having salvation, gentle and riding on a donkey...Zech 9:9.


Caty is there any way you could tell one or both of your parents about what you are going through.I would sure want to know if my little girl was going through something like this so I could help her .Jesus wants you well ,not suffering like this.He is even more forgiving than our parents are.

God in Jesus came reconciling the world to Himself not counting their sins against them.We do not have to be perfect to be accepted by Jesus.We already have the righteousness of Jesus.
Jesus bless you
annrobert

 

[Caty]

i've went to a counselor but it was just to get to know me...i've told my mom most not all i go throw though, i dont want to worry her. i fell bad for thinking those things because i want Jesu but im owrried that ive blasphemed and he said there was no forgiveness if you do that.

 

[keryakos]

do you regret it ...because if you do you have not blasphemed the Holy Spirit ..

thoughts get confused too ...like yoiu im angry at someone or something and then suddenly a bad one comes against the Holy Ghost and then i think oh my God ...but i have to remind myself that my anger triggered the WRONG response from my brain it wasn't planned in my mind and then i did it ..

 

[keryakos]

Stopping in quick.

From what you have been writing me through private messages I know very well that what you have is not just remorse but also a true genuine desire to turn away from your sin and come to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior

This is not your doing caty but rather the work of the Holy Spirit within you.

This speaks alot to me as well

What is happening is fear is keeping you captive and making you question things on the irrational side of things because of the "ocd" Hold these words and irrational feeling and thinking captive.

You are looking a bit younger our James ,,,,

 

[Caty]

do you regret it ...because if you do you have not blasphemed the Holy Spirit ..

thoughts get confused too ...like yoiu im angry at someone or something and then suddenly a bad one comes against the Holy Ghost and then i think oh my God ...but i have to remind myself that my anger triggered the WRONG response from my brain it wasn't planned in my mind and then i did it ..

yes i regret it deeply but i was angry at God when i had that intentional thought...im so sorry for it, but im so scared now...i cant believe i could be so stupied.

 

[SoldierOfSoul]

i've went to a counselor but it was just to get to know me...i've told my mom most not all i go throw though, i dont want to worry her. i fell bad for thinking those things because i want Jesu but im owrried that ive blasphemed and he said there was no forgiveness if you do that.

Caty, Jesus loves you and He is your God not your feelings, your feeling and thoughts will constantly condem you but Jesus never will. He loves you and all of us with a unconditional love that none of us and can fully understand. You are safe in His care regardless how you feel at the moment, He is right there by your side and He always will be. You need to learn to ignore these thoughts of condemnation they do not come from God, He loves you and He is your everlasting heavenly Father and He will never turn His back on you. Relax, be at peace, Jesus is your Saviour and He lives inside of you, there is no reason for you to take these thoughts to heart. And if our hearts condem us, God is greater then our hearts. Believe in what He says in His word, that He loves you and that He will never cast you out. Put your faith in Jesus and not your feelings. Your OCD will constantly try to condemn you as long as you are dwelling on these thoughts, step out in faith and believe what God says, no matter what your feelings say they are wrong, they are a lie. Jesus is meek, peaceful, loving and merciful. He doesnt condemn you, He loves you! And He always will forever! You are eternaly His! Christ be with you.

 

[annrobert]

Caty,
You have not blasphemed,blasphemy cannot be committed by a heart that is so against it and so scared of it and wants so very much to be with Jesus.This kind of heart absolutely cannot commit blasphemy.It is just that ocd illness will terrify a person.Caty Jesus knows your heart and that you are terrified of this sin,He understands you and cares for you.You are His special daughter .
A person would have to be purposefully,and intentionally and permanently hating to Jesus to commit this sin,if it is possible to commit it today,It could only be by persistently intentionally ,permanently choosing to hate Jesus and His salvation and love forever.No one on this board is anything like that.We are all completely the opposite of that.We are all terrified of offeding Jesus,want to be with Jesus and want His love and salvation.Therefore we are all saved and loved and protcted by Jesus.We are being held in His hand and will never perish.
Jesus Bless You
annrobert