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It wouldn't hurt. Though the point of doing such isn't anti technological in of itself and we are not bound to give up everything.
It seems like the Christians modern interpretation of Christianity, if not the theological fundamental itself, lends them to be content with being cultural losers, but hey, at least they still get to be with Jesus for eternity.
Not sure what you are disagreeing with. That we are born believers or that all religions have a similar basis for their beliefs.This is simply not true. Anybody familiar with anthropology or comparative religion would be able to tell you otherwise.
Of course one can choose to breach Ethical codes and Human rights but if one does so they will be breaking those laws and Codes and will be disciplined.Blah diddy blah
"Will fail "
And "0nly way" are things you made up, unless
of course you copied from someone else
who made it up for you.
Of course one can choose to breach Ethical codes and Human rights but if one does so they will be breaking those laws and Codes and will be disciplined.
For example if you discriminate against someone because you have the opinion or view that its OK to discriminate against certain people then you have breached the law or code. So in that sense these law or codes are the only way to avoid getting into trouble and suffering consequences.
But I am not making that leap, you are. I am simply pointing out that belief and a sense of right and wrong are innate and that its not indoctrinated. At least the foundation of morals.Humans have an natural inclination for empathy; but as far as this empathy coming from your concept of God, not even the link you provided was willing to make that much of a leap.
Yes that's a good point that people often miss. Its not just about culture which is more obvious but varying beliefs within the same culture. But even so the they still base morals on the same core idea of empathy and justice.Within the same culture, we find different variations of morality. It’s a lot more than culture.
Yes but it has the same idea being supernatural and creator. Some beliefs make the supernatural creator Mind or consciousness itself. But this is still in line with western ideas such as Christianity when you consider that the idea of the 'Logos' the 'Word' being before all things and creating all things.Not all cultures, but for those that do, this supreme agent differs from culture to culture.
Not sure what you are disagreeing with. That we are born believers or that all religions have a similar basis for their beliefs.
"Similar", in appearance, would include the current Ms UniverseI disagree that all religions have a similar basis for their beliefs. Buddhism and Confucianism are not based on revelation from a higher power, much less the Mesopotamian deity portrayed in the Bible.
As far as I understand there are similar divine concepts such as Nirvana being like heaven as its a sort of after life in that once achieved there is no more rebirth and one has attained perfection in another realm.I disagree that all religions have a similar basis for their beliefs. Buddhism and Confucianism are not based on revelation from a higher power, much less the Mesopotamian deity portrayed in the Bible.
Aren’t you the one who said your God’s morals are imprinted in our hearts? How is that different than saying all morals come from your God?But I am not making that leap, you are.
I understand we all have a sense of right vs wrong, I just don’t agree this comes from your God.I am simply pointing out that belief and a sense of right and wrong are innate and that its not indoctrinated. At least the foundation of morals.
Culture comes along and interprets and applies their version of things later to that foundation. But that is just refining the same basic foundation that babies innately have. Basically morality is about how we treat others and all other morals stem from this.
Relative does not mean everybody agrees all views are equal, it means relative to individual views.But what I can't understand is how the dominant culture gets to implement their version of what is right and wrong and override all other versions. If morality is relative then all cultural versions of morality should stand as equal competing systems. But it seems we don't.
I agree theism is very popular in the world today, but popularity has never been an adequate indicator of truth.Yes but it has the same idea being supernatural and creator. Some beliefs make the supernatural creator Mind or consciousness itself. But this is still in line with western ideas such as Christianity when you consider that the idea of the 'Logos' the 'Word' being before all things and creating all things.
I was talking about a natural inclination to believe in divine concepts not about any specific god.Aren’t you the one who said your God’s morals are imprinted in our hearts? How is that different than saying all morals come from your God?
That's not my argument at this stage. I am talking about the idea of right and wrong being innate in humans from birth.I understand we all have a sense of right vs wrong, I just don’t agree this comes from your God.
That's subjective morality not relative morality. Nevertheless the rational or lack of it is the same. So what do you mean by "whoever is stronger will be the one to impose his view on the other". Are you saying what is determined to be morally right is based on whoever is the strongest to impose or force their view on others.Relative does not mean everybody agrees all views are equal, it means relative to individual views.
Example; let’s say you have person A, and person B, and they are both judging action X. Person A thinks action X is good based on his personal views, and person B thinks it is bad based on his personal views. This means action X is good relative to person A’s view, yet bad relative to person B’s views. But this does not mean both people will respect the other’s view on this issue, they both think they are right so whoever is stronger will be the one to impose his view on the other.
That's ironic because it seems subjective/relative morality is determined by popularity ie whichever moral determination is mostly agreed upon.I agree theism is very popular in the world today, but popularity has never been an adequate indicator of truth.
As far as I understand there are similar divine concepts such as Nirvana being like heaven
Also though there is no God there are supernatural entities within some realms though they are still mortal. But the concept of an entity with powers beyond humans is the same.
Still my point was that humans have the fundamental knowledge of right and wrong from birth or at least a very early age (3 months or less) which cannot have been indoctrinated. Likewise with divine concepts come easy to infants and they have a pretty sophisticated belief which are not based on human made ideas.
"Similar", in appearance, would include the current Ms Universe
and the common wombat. They are similar.
Just not, you know, real similar. Not enough for sane
comparison.
Religion, defined as belief in things not demonstrated, renders scientism to be just another religion.But I am not making that leap, you are.
Could not agree more.Religion, defined as belief in things not demonstrated, renders scientism to be just another religion.
Knowledge of mathematics, of the first principles of natural science, and of metaphysics, is both a priori and a synthetic form of knowledge.
The atheists are as "religious" as Christians; they merely do not wish to admit that they also have faith in things not seen.
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