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McWilliams
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edb19 said:
Oh my, I must ask you and our sweet Lord to forgive me if I appeared proud of bearing the calvinist shield icon. Pride is definitely a great sin of which I often must repent, but had no thoughts of such when using the icon! When I view the icon I'm reminded of God's most amazing grace and that while I was in sin our sweet Lord rescued me to Himself for all eternity! That is the good news, the gospel! It isnt pride in my heart that He rescued me but the most humble gratitude imaginable! I still am just awestruck by it all, that as unworthy as I am even as a sinner He chose to save me! That little icon brings me to the dust, makes me aware of what great sacrifice it took for me to become His!
Similar here as there are denominational separations for kindred spirits to join in discussion and for others to come with questions about our faith, we have that calvinist shield that says clearly to the world that we stand unashamed for Christ!
No, it certainly isnt necessary in being Christian to have the icon! Possibly to me I treasure it as a reminder also of how very many years I lived as arminian before being found by the doctrines of grace! It causes my gratitude to soar and reminds me that there is no value at all to me!
Not by any works of righteousness that I have done, but by His mercy He saved me!Titus 3:5
Soli deo gloria!
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McWilliams said:Oh my, I must ask you and our sweet Lord to forgive me if I appeared proud of bearing the calvinist shield icon. Pride is definitely a great sin of which I often must repent, but had no thoughts of such when using the icon! When I view the icon I'm reminded of God's most amazing grace and that while I was in sin our sweet Lord rescued me to Himself for all eternity! That is the good news, the gospel! It isnt pride in my heart that He rescued me but the most humble gratitude imaginable! I still am just awestruck by it all, that as unworthy as I am even as a sinner He chose to save me! That little icon brings me to the dust, makes me aware of what great sacrifice it took for me to become His!
Similar here as there are denominational separations for kindred spirits to join in discussion and for others to come with questions about our faith, we have that calvinist shield that says clearly to the world that we stand unashamed for Christ!
No, it certainly isnt necessary in being Christian to have the icon! Possibly to me I treasure it as a reminder also of how very many years I lived as arminian before being found by the doctrines of grace! It causes my gratitude to soar and reminds me that there is no value at all to me!
Not by any works of righteousness that I have done, but by His mercy He saved me!Titus 3:5
Soli deo gloria!
I'm so sorry - I never intended to imply pride on anyone's part, your's especially. From your posts and from our conversations I know you are truly a humble woman of God. I have so much to learn from you because of your knowledge and your experience.
I just look at it that Calvinism is my doctrinal viewpoint, but that I'm a Christian first - that's truly all I meant. Anyone who hovers over my icon sees my home church name which clearly states Reformed.
When I first joined CF and completed my profile I considered using the Calvinist icon but decided against it for the above reason. However, if I'm honest with myself, there is probably a certain amount of pride involved in my not having chosen it. I find that many people hear Calvinist and assume hyperCalvinist. I'd rather not have to deal with that so avoid the confrontation altogether (I'm thinking that falls under pride).
your sister in Christ,
edie
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McWilliams
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You never did imply pride Edie, please dont feel badly! When we have cause to examine ourselves and search our hearts this is a good thing!
Yes, I agree that we're Christians first and foremost, always the most important consideration!
I think we both want to keep our hearts focus on Him! As someone said, the main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing!
Being a Christian is still like walking the edge of a razor blade, keeping our eyes front and center and not being carried off to the side. If in any posts here I find cause to examine my heart and to regain my focus then that is a good thing!
I am thankful for you as my sister in Christ and know that our hearts have the same desire, to please Him first!
Yes, I agree that we're Christians first and foremost, always the most important consideration!
I think we both want to keep our hearts focus on Him! As someone said, the main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing!
Being a Christian is still like walking the edge of a razor blade, keeping our eyes front and center and not being carried off to the side. If in any posts here I find cause to examine my heart and to regain my focus then that is a good thing!
I am thankful for you as my sister in Christ and know that our hearts have the same desire, to please Him first!
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