Religion cannot work with science.

[Etheri]

Having fun here?

Some...looks like I'm just wasting my time here.

You can give proof to Christians yet they will just tell you that it's all just untrue and that they "know" that their God is real.

The human race is still learning. How can you say that God is the truth based on the little education we have?

 

[Etheri]

I understand the point you are making, but you are also making us look bad.

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and the Christians aren't who tell me that I'm a servant of satan?

 

[AV1611VET]

The human race is still learning. How can you say that God is the truth based on the little education we have?

Faith.

 

[Etheri]

Faith.

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[Rajni]

1. Jesus Was Born From A Virgin
2. Talking Donkey In The Old Testament
3. Talking Snake
4. The Flood
5. Resurrection Of The Dead

That's just one religion.

How about the others?


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[Rajni]

You can give proof to Christians yet they will just tell you that it's all just untrue and that they "know" that their God is real.

Isn't it exciting how much there is out there we haven't yet discovered?
The above graphic applies to both sides of this discussion, by the way.
Declarative statements in either direction are, ultimately, faith-based.

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[Michael]

Should I laugh or cry? Muslims say the truth is Allah, Christians God (Trinity if the person isn't unitarian), Jews Yahweh, Hindus their 300 million gods. So what you said isn't anything new.

Actually Brahman fulfills the role of a monotheistic concept of God in the Hindu faith, and monotheism seems to be the "consensus" among humans based upon their experiences. I could personally care less whether you call God "Allah", Yahweh or Bob, it's still the same *being*.

 

[Etheri]

That's just one religion.

How about the others?


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Hell-o!

Sorry. Christianity can not work with science. My bad. Oh and history too..and philosophy!

My sister is a Buddhist and Atheist. See for example Buddhism. But it's a bit stupid to call Buddhism a religion, it's more psychology or style of life.They live a modest life, and I like them! Yes there were religions that didn't teach about theology/ a form of deity.

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[Etheri]

monotheistic concept of God in the Hindu faith

Explain, please, the monotheistic concept in Hinduism.

 

[Rajni]

Hell-o!

Sorry. Christianity can not work with science. My bad. Oh and history too..and philosophy!

My sister is a Buddhist and Atheist. See for example Buddhism. But it's a bit stupid to call Buddhism a religion, it's more psychology or style of life.They live a modest life, and I like them! Yes there were religions that didn't teach about theology/ a form of deity.

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No worries!

Yes, that's my understanding of Buddhism as well.

You posted a link to Westboro Baptist Church -- is that the particular
sect of Christianity to which you're referring? The reason I ask is that
there's probably as much diversity within Christianity as a whole as there
is outside of it, so some Christian sects might mesh with science/history
/philosophy more seamlessly than others do.

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[Strathos]

Will the new earth be a literal special creation?

I don't know, because it hasn't happened yet. Although after various disasters it seems like a cleansing of sin from the earth. Sin can't be removed naturally, obviously. So unless God makes completely new natural laws, it's probably a miracle.

Sounds good to me. Though science should not ignore it when such is claimed.

I have no problem with the Virgin Birth, the Parting of the Red (?) Sea or some of the gospel accounts of the Resurrection.

The Virgin Birth in particular is CLEARLY marked as not being what happens, it is an anomaly and Joseph knew exactly how babies were made. In short it claims to be a Miracle right up front and in big print.

True.

For me there is much more of an issue where I see no up front claim of a Miracle coupled with a gross difference between the claim and the way we know things usually work.

Well that and claims that would seem to be expected to leave some evidence or record we could find. On that the Parting of the Red(?) Sea is problematic, one would expect it to be recorded somewhere in Egyptian records. The Flood of Noah should have left tons of evidence if it was on a Global scale. (Which brings the idea that perhaps the popular interpretation of Scripture is dead wrong on some points).

There are many possible interpretations. I have mine and accept they could be wrong.

Science and Faith seem to me to be most in conflict when we have people pushing both outside their sphere.

Indeed.

 

[Michael]

Explain, please, the monotheistic concept in Hinduism.

Brahman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Etheri]

Brahman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes. In Hinduism, the Ultimate Reality that is behind the universe and all the gods is called by different names, but most commonly Brahman (not to be confused with the creator god Brahma or the priestly class of Brahmans).But the problem: The god (Brahman) of Hinduism is most often worshipped in the form of multiple deities.As Meek has said, “There can be grades of approximation to monotheism, but not of monotheism itself” (Meek 22).

So, a pantheistic-monotheism or monistic-monotheism — while perhaps an approximation to monotheism — is not monotheism. Verstanden? (taken from some sites, it's late here)

 

[Michael]

Yes. In Hinduism, the Ultimate Reality that is behind the universe and all the gods is called by different names, but most commonly Brahman (not to be confused with the creator god Brahma or the priestly class of Brahmans).But the problem: The god (Brahman) of Hinduism is most often worshipped in the form of multiple deities.As Meek has said, “There can be grades of approximation to monotheism, but not of monotheism itself” (Meek 22).

So, a pantheistic-monotheism or monistic-monotheism — while perhaps an approximation to monotheism — is not monotheism. Verstanden? (taken from some sites, it's late here)

Actually, there is some secular variation, but monotheistic tendencies tend to be popular.

Vaishnavism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Godisgood12]

Should I laugh or cry? Muslims say the truth is Allah, Christians God (Trinity if the person isn't unitarian), Jews Yahweh, Hindus their 300 million gods. So what you said isn't anything new.

Should I also mention scientist worship science, or would that be against forums rules?
How about non believers worship doubt? Too much? How can one stand in a position unless they have a belief?

 

[Godisgood12]

And the flying spaghetti monster.

The Holy Spirit is truth. The Holy Spirit is perfect.

 

[Godisgood12]

Please accept the flying spaghetti monster before it's too late, you will be forever raped because you didn't. If you ask me to prove why FSM is real, I will just tell you "Faith".Oh and here's a prophecy: Russia and USA will fight. So the future generations will have some evidence.

And by the way, you're not allowed to ask any questions because it is from the evil one.

Accept Jesus and live.

 

[Godisgood12]

I understand the point you are making, but you are also making us look bad.

Jesus is the cure.

 

[Godisgood12]

Hell-o!

Sorry. Christianity can not work with science. My bad. Oh and history too..and philosophy!

My sister is a Buddhist and Atheist. See for example Buddhism. But it's a bit stupid to call Buddhism a religion, it's more psychology or style of life.They live a modest life, and I like them! Yes there were religions that didn't teach about theology/ a form of deity.

Westboro Baptist Church - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Creator works with all. Pride and arrogance seem to want credit for the things they happened upon. How sad it is to seek mans approval.

 

[AV1611VET]

How sad it is to seek mans approval.

Scientists can get fame and fortune and their name in lights for making a discovery -- then, 76 years later, get their discovery flushed down the toilemeter behind closed doors.