Reliability of Jay Dyer

Euodius · Dec 13, 2019

The Latins, and later the British (both of whom, through the Papacy are usually considered to be Barlaamites), saw that A. making the Orthodox Barlaamites would make them be more willing to cooperate with them because of a lessening of theological conflict that would occur. B. The effects of Barlaamisim were destabalizing allowing for Western religion and Western political influence to better penetrate Orthodox regions. C. There was probably some idea of enlightening the Orthodox with 'superior Western theology.' It's kinda straightforward, really.

BernardPyron · Sep 26, 2022

I was looking for the name of a guy who was on the Alex Jones Show a few times recently - in September of 2022 - and appeared to be talking about dispensationalist end time prophecy. Today I came across the name Jay Dyer and a photo of this guy. This Jay Dyer may be the one I was looking for. Has anyone on this forum listened to Jay Dyer on the Alex Jones Show talking about end time dispensationalist prophecy? Sometimes people cite dispensationalist end time prophecy and do not know what they are saying is from dispensationalism and not necessary from Scripture. For example, dispensationalists focus a great deal on the Antichrist as a one man figure who is to appear in the end times. But - in 1 John 2:18, 22; 4:3; 2 John 7 says there were many antichrists at the time John wrote, I John 4: 3 writes about the spirit of Anti-Christ and 2 John 7 says there are many antichrists, not one as dispensationalism says

Justin-H.S. · Sep 27, 2022

BernardPyron said:
I was looking for the name of a guy who was on the Alex Jones Show a few times recently - in September of 2022 - and appeared to be talking about dispensationalist end time prophecy. Today I came across the name Jay Dyer and a photo of this guy. This Jay Dyer may be the one I was looking for. Has anyone on this forum listened to Jay Dyer on the Alex Jones Show talking about end time dispensationalist prophecy? Sometimes people cite dispensationalist end time prophecy and do not know what they are saying is from dispensationalism and not necessary from Scripture. For example, dispensationalists focus a great deal on the Antichrist as a one man figure who is to appear in the end times. But - in 1 John 2:18, 22; 4:3; 2 John 7 says there were many antichrists at the time John wrote, I John 4: 3 writes about the spirit of Anti-Christ and 2 John 7 says there are many antichrists, not one as dispensationalism says

I don't think Dyer has ever been on AJ's show.

BernardPyron · Sep 27, 2022

Justin-H.S. said:
I don't think Dyer has ever been on AJ's show.

Yesterday I found a clip of Jay Dyer on a recent Alex Jones Show. Jay Dyer on Infowars: The Great Reset = The Bilderberg Illuminati Takeover Plan But this is not the clip in which Jay Dyer on the Alex Jones Show talks about end time dispensationalist prophecy. I have not found that clip yet. And I still do not know much about the biography of this Jay Dyer, for example where he went to college. He appears to be college educated, maybe having a Master's or Doctorate level degree. And - is he a follower of dispensatrionalism, in some ways? If so, does that suggest that Alex Jones follows dispensationalism in some ways? I think that Alex Jones cannot be clearly seen to be a dispensationalist, but does agree in some ways with dispensationalist theology.

Justin-H.S. · Sep 27, 2022

BernardPyron said:
Yesterday I found a clip of Jay Dyer on a recent Alex Jones Show. Jay Dyer on Infowars: The Great Reset = The Bilderberg Illuminati Takeover Plan But this is not the clip in which Jay Dyer on the Alex Jones Show talks about end time dispensationalist prophecy. I have not found that clip yet. And I still do not know much about the biography of this Jay Dyer, for example where he went to college. He appears to be college educated, maybe having a Master's or Doctorate level degree. And - is he a follower of dispensatrionalism, in some ways? If so, does that suggest that Alex Jones follows dispensationalism in some ways? I think that Alex Jones cannot be clearly seen to be a dispensationalist, but does agree in some ways with dispensationalist theology.

Okay, well if he was on Infowars recently, that's new to me. Dyers views on eschatology is Orthodox. He has never espoused dispensationalism to my knowledge. Orthodox eschatology is that we've been in the end times since Ascension, and that Revelation can be read as cyclic. Many-a-Babylon have rose and fell through the ages.

BernardPyron · Sep 27, 2022

Justin-H.S. said:
Okay, well if he was on Infowars recently, that's new to me. Dyers views on eschatology is Orthodox. He has never espoused dispensationalism to my knowledge. Orthodox eschatology is that we've been in the end times since Ascension, and that Revelation can be read as cyclic. Many-a-Babylon have rose and fell through the ages.

OK. Dyers was on the Alex Jones Show just now. It took me quite a while to deal with a problem on this site - my Password was not accepted. Though I had the last accepted password written in a notebook, it was just now rejected. Something may not be working right. So, when I get back to the Alex Jones Show, Dyers will probably be finished for today.

ArmyMatt · Sep 28, 2022

Justin-H.S. said:
Revelation can be read as cyclic. Many-a-Babylon have rose and fell through the ages.

Fr Hopko would say every generation has its dragon, its beast, and its 666.

ArmyMatt · Sep 28, 2022

Justin-H.S. said:
He has never espoused dispensationalism to my knowledge.

I don’t think he has. I am pretty sure I have heard him speak against it.

Nathaniel Red · Sep 29, 2022

gzt said:
He's bad stuff, he's been Orthodox for about year, though, so maybe he's gotten better.

Actually about 4 years now, at least from what he's said.

ArmyMatt · Sep 29, 2022

Nathaniel Red said:
Actually about 4 years now, at least from what he's said.

the post you quoted was made 3 years ago if you look at the date.

Nathaniel Red · Sep 29, 2022

ArmyMatt said:
the post you quoted was made 3 years ago if you look at the date.

Oh oops. Why was a 3 year old thread revived?

ArmyMatt · Sep 29, 2022

Nathaniel Red said:
Oh oops. Why was a 3 year old thread revived?

I dunno, it happens.

ArmyMatt · Sep 30, 2022

we actually used to have a guy that would always post a joke at what he called “senseless thread necromancy.”

Not David · Oct 4, 2022

HOLY SENSELESS THREAD NECROMANCY, BATMAN!!!!

ArmyMatt · Oct 4, 2022

Not David said:
HOLY SENSELESS THREAD NECROMANCY, BATMAN!!!!

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there it is! Rob lives on!

Not David · Oct 4, 2022

ArmyMatt said:
there it is! Rob lives on!

I wonder what he is doing.

ArmyMatt · Oct 4, 2022

Not David said:
I wonder what he is doing.

out there making corny jokes somewhere, same as always

Cody J Dunbar · Nov 4, 2022

He is solid. Many people don't like his ego or personality, but if you can get past that, his understanding of theology and philosophy is top-notch. I watch his stuff occasionally, but I wouldn't recommend listening to him exclusively. I also don't recommend his stuff to inquirers or catechumens because he can drive people away with his abrasive personality.

mikeyrobbie · Nov 18, 2022

I have heard good things about some of Jay Dyer's stuff, but as with anything that's on the internet, do talk to your priest / spiritual father about anything you read or watch on the internet. Your primary catechism / faith education comes from your priest, anything else is supplemental. Typically your priest can direct you to specific resources that are better than others. That being said my spiritual father once recommended something from Dyer to me.

abacabb3 · Nov 19, 2022

ArmyMatt said:
his ego and he openly promotes heresy

What's a little heresy between friends, like Fr Kimel and company?

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