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Relationship Advice..I don't know what to do

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@heathorheather, you need to get rid of your thoughts of yourself and what you need to do, and even thoughts about her. What you have needed to do all this time is make Jesus the center of all your thoughts and everything you do. It requires a serious commitment that results in you altering everything in your life for Jesus (not for her—and you lay down what you want for yourself, too). It doesn't have to do with what you do for the relationship, it has to do with where your heart is. It is impossible to hide the truth of this about you from people who are wholly devoted to Jesus.

I don't know what she meant by "different color of faith," but I can tell you what it means to me: to some their "faith" is Christianity, to others their "faith" is the good they are doing for God (e.g., serving the poor), and to others it is asserting and standing for the truth about the good news that Jesus died for their sins. None of these are the faith we need, though. The word faith is not used in these ways much in the Bible. Faith, in Scripture, is a reference to how deeply in your heart you genuinely believe in Jesus, how much you are devoted to HIM in your heart, how deep your acceptance is that everything he said is exactly true, and how deeply you have entrusted yourself to him. When he is the center of your heart, you will be loving Jesus.

This is not actually something you are in direct control of. You can't just make yourself like that. You need to seek God for it in a serious way. In a desperate way, in a life-consuming way. At the deepest, you will be willing to give up your relationships for Jesus, give up yourself (all you think, say, and do), and even be willing to die for him if that's what he chooses for you.

When you have gotten to this point (because of what God does in you), the blessings you see in Scripture will be true for you. It is through your unity with God that you become a good listener, loving, easily obedient, full of joy, hope, and thankfulness. Through this, all your relationships will work, because you have let God be in control of who you spend time with and what you do together. He will be in control, and you'll know it in your heart, of everything in your life and around you, and you will then see what it is like for the sovereign, almighty God to love you.
I just got going to church again for the last week; It has been about 4 days in a row that I went. I have also been burning votive lights in prayer. I hear voices in my head about answers throughout the day while I pray and go about my daily tasks. Thank you everyone for helping me along! In my relationship I need to talk ***WITH*** instead of to. It has to be a two way street to know each other. If one shuts off then it is not a relationship any longer.
 
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If you cant talk about stuff easily with each other thats no good.
What is your prayer life like? Do you talk to God much?

Or do you just expect Him to know everything before you say a word. GOd may understand but we Women are not God or mind readers.

When we believe we confess with our MOUTH and believe in our hearts that jEsus is Lord. See romans 10:9 JEsus asks us to proclaim him from the rooftops, even the stones do not stay silent.

See Matthew 10:27 and Luke 10:40

Why are you not vocal about your faith in Him? Is it fear?

Thank you for taking the time to reply and read. You're exactly right. That's what she said. She is not a mind reader and she doesn't know what's going on with me if I don't say anything and lack communication about this things with her. It's just so frustrating that I'm so stupid when she's been constantly telling/asking me to just talk. I believe my prayer life is good, it can always be better but good. I talk to Him about everything, as if I'm having a conversation with Him. Also you're completely right, we should confess with our mouth. It's just that I don't talk much and that's a weak excuse I know and it's not like a bold extroverted person, rather introverted. It's not fear. I'm one of the youth leaders at my church and during those times I don't have problem talking about my faith, my beliefs, pray with/for them, during meetings we share (I don't share much but here and there I will). But somehow that didn't transition to our relationship. I want it to and see the root of the problem so I want to try and salvage something that was so perfect, or could have be perfect.

I just wished I was reminded of what you just said (thank you).
 
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It is not too late but you need to actually build your foundation on Jesus who is the rock not on this lady. You are depending too much on her this is what I see.

You cannot place your faith in a woman. Its not going to work. Your faith needs to be in Jesus. Give her a break.

Allow God to grow you. It is like trees planted too close together. She feels crowded and needs room and so do you. I domt know if you know anything about gardening but if you want to grow a crop you thin out the seedlings and plant them in different spaces so they dont compete for water and then can grow bigger. It might seem like you far apart now cos you are only small but actually this separation is good for you. You both need room. How old are you btw.

You're absolutely right. My foundation needs to be built around God and from there all things will fit into place more naturally. We both wanted that but lost track and our foundation was just built like just any other relationship these days. And again I tired to just build on top of the current foundation when I/We needed to rebuild our foundation to center around Him, cause that' what we wanted and still want. Thank you for the gardening analogy, it makes sense. I just turned 28 and she is 26.
 
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If you want your girlfriend back, forget about her for a while and with that time you would have spent, and more, seek to know the Lord better. Ask him to bring you and her back together, keep asking every day, and be patient. Pray specific things, like, that she would come to feel she needs to give you a second chance. If God wants you to marry her, he will use this waiting time to purify you and prepare both you so you will be happier together than is even possible right now. Be prepared to wait for years, because that will give you a better heart through which to seek God (one that is yielded to his will). It would help your heart to also be praying that she would marry the best man God can give her, and that God's will, but not your own, would be done.
 
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It is not too late but you need to actually build your foundation on Jesus who is the rock not on this lady. You are depending too much on her this is what I see.

You cannot place your faith in a woman. Its not going to work. Your faith needs to be in Jesus. Give her a break.

Allow God to grow you. It is like trees planted too close together. She feels crowded and needs room and so do you. I domt know if you know anything about gardening but if you want to grow a crop you thin out the seedlings and plant them in different spaces so they dont compete for water and then can grow bigger. It might seem like you far apart now cos you are only small but actually this separation is good for you. You both need room. How old are you btw.
Wow! You totally hit it on the answer. I talked to my real mom and she told me I need to just shut up sometimes instead of talking all the time. She needs a break. Thank you. I'm 43 years old.
 
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Hi I'm David,
Earlier this week my girlfriend of 2+ years asked to talk to me and called it quits. I don't know how to feel right now cause our relationship was/is great. Our compatibility up there on top of the chart, we have fun, love each other and individually our relationship with God is on the right track. We rarely fight or argue but during the two year span, we've had or rather she would ask to talk once every few months about our relationship. I'm the type of person who does a lot of things alone (qt/praying/many other things) and don't speak much, the quiet type. So during those talks she was not happy and upset that as two people who are in a serious relationship and both who are thinking about the future towards marriage we don't talk about our faith and lack communication in that area. She's been wanting to do marriage counseling from our church leaders and pastor, not in the tradition sense but so that we can communicate and share more openly about our faith. At first I didn't want to but evenly our young adults pastor felt compelled cause he saw us and knew that we felt serious and strongly about this relationship so he asked to marriage counseling before we even said anything to anyone. The most important thing that she values from her partner is where his faith is, how spiritual he is and how well he is in tune with God. I knew this from the start and I was confident enough to start this relationship with her so that both of us can grow stronger and more intimate with God. When she mentioned these things I would just always say "hey I'll do better, I'll communicate better and share more that's on my mine" to assure her that it will change. This same "let's talk" would arise once every couple/few months not because I wasn't sharing at all or just not owning up to my word but because it seemed like the bare minimum to her and because I'm not giving it a 100%. Don't get me wrong, I was doing more. Each time we talk there were little improvements but looking back now I can't say that I did give a 100% when I should have. I thought what I was doing and how I was approaching the situation was enough. Two years she waited and was patient with me, I understand how frustrating that can be. But I'm someone who never shares unless I'm force to, even in group settings, whether it's in small groups at church, I'm just not very good at sharing and don't prefer sharing my thoughts. So I was a little upset that she didn't take the small changes in my with that in mind. Then another one of these "let's talk" came about and she said let's talk in a week (since i was away from her half the time and she wanted give me some time to think and pray as well). Initially, you know waiting a week to tackle the problem seemed ridiculous and unfair to me because I was curious what she wanted to talk about this time cause things were going well (in my mind). During the "wait week", when texting each other she just didn't seem like herself (mind that we spoke and kept in touch 24/7 and just text whenever even if we had absolutely nothing to talk about), she just seemed like a shell of herself. So half the "wait week" we did talk but I knew something was wrong cause she's never been like this to the point where she couldn't even talk to normally, it just seemed like she was forcing herself to talk to me. So me going crazy wanted to know what was going on through text/phone but she insisted that we just talk in person when I'm back and when we're both free to talk in person. Which leads back to earlier this week when she wanted to part ways. I had time to pray and think about our relationship and through praying I was convinced that our source was the foundation on which we built/start this relationship. We both wanted to build a relationship centered around God yet we lost track of that and became caught up in the worldly/culture aspect in the relationship. So during during the other times when I said "hey things will get better cause I'll try harder to express myself and show my faith more," I wasn't lying but just taking the wrong approach and just tried to build on the wrong foundation. So on the day of the talk she just said that she's just tired and is drained of this relationship because the one thing (level of faith and the spiritual aspect) she needs she doesn't really see and change and tells me that she can't really see herself with me as a potential spouse. Of course I was devastated cause I was a point where I could really see myself with this person and to ask her to be my life partner was right here/there (I was looking at rings/houses and ready to speak to her parents' permission for marriage). I explained to her that during the "wait week" where I prayed and really thought about our relationship I believed that our foundation was the problem and she explains that yes that's true and that she's been saying let's do something about it this entire time for the past 2 years yet nothing's really been done about it. I told her that okay I get it clearly now so let's try to work this out and build a renewed foundation centered around what we wanted from the beginning cause even broken things can be a blessing if mended by God but she just said no and that she's be draining and that she is completely drained now to give me another chance. I understood her and didn't understand her because I wanted her give me another chance where the things she wanted didn't have to be squeezed/forced out of me and that they comes out naturally if our foundation is rebuilt but she said it's too late and it's been 2 years at that she can't do this anymore or have the desire to do this with me. She also mentioned that her color of faith is different from mine. She explained that her desire in this relationship was dissolving quickly and the only thing was keeping it was to think back to the beginning of the relationship and how she felt for me. I've asked multiple times and asked to let's try this again cause she is the person for me in every way and I just blew it. I asked to talk the following day and asked again and again to give me one last chance to make this relationship work so that but she said she doesn't want to and doesn't have any desire to be in a relationship with me. It's never that I didn't listen to her, it just took over and over several times for me to clearly take the right approach to this situation....but now it's too late.

I don't know what to do. I know it's my fault that it lead to this point. I couldn't see that she was so drained, that she was on her last straw. I was too slow to listen and too quick to talk and become angry when it should have been the other way around. I blame myself for losing the girl of my dreams right now. I know that God made this relationship possible from the start (that another story in itself) and that God has a reason for all these things but I don't know what to do. I can't blame anyone but myself cause I didn't give a 100%. It was too late when I, myself saw the clear picture. I don't want to lose her. I didn't know being too quiet/not sharing a lot can show my faith/spiritual level, I thought it was more character based and maybe that what she means when she says "we have a different color of faith." I don't want this to be the end of our story cause I can't see my future without her in it. She's very certain on her decision, that she doesn't want a relationship with me. Is there anything I can do? What should I do? What can I do to possibly spark that fire between us again and for her to give it shot again, one last time? I want this relationship and want to make it work, where I know the problem and where I can give all I have.

Thank you for reading my current situation and I'm apologize if it was hard to understand what I just wrote. Please let me know if I can clarify anything for you. Thank you again.

Love is not something we "try" for. Neither is faith. The Spirit produces the good fruit inside of us, it's nothing we have to struggle to achieve on our own strength. This is important. You will find God's Word to be incredibly helpful in understanding life. If Christ is first in your life, love in relationship is smooth!

Christ's love WILL TRANSFORM our entire life if it is at work within us. If our lifestyle is the same after as it was before, we are still being ruled by our flesh. Anyone who considers themselves a spiritual person will be incredibly cautious about marriage! She wants to know if you can understand her heart (not just her physical appearance).

"I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect." Romans 12:1-2

In a relationship with 'believers', if one has devoted their entire life to Christ and the other has not, it is not going to work. If our entire life is devoted to Christ, marriage naturally comes together. Love is MUTUAL. Good listening comes with patience and patience comes from CHRIST.

There's an enormous difference between believing in Christ, and Living a Christ-like lifestyle through the Word and in Relationship. She is likely wanting someone who can battle with her, love her, cry with her, love peace, and understand what she understands.

God wants us to put Christ before EVERYTHING. That is true faith. That is a disciple. She likely foresees a divorce in the future because of the major difference in maturity, and she will not allow that to happen. Unfortunately, she discerned this after the fact.

"Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership can righteousness have with wickedness? Or what fellowship does light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement can exist between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said:

“I will live with them

and walk among them,

and I will be their God,

and they will be My people.”

“Therefore come out from among them

and be separate, says the Lord.

Touch no unclean thing,

and I will receive you.”

And:

“I will be a father to you,

and you will be My sons and daughters,

says the Lord Almighty.” 2 Corinthians 6:14-18

“The heart is more deceitful than all else
And is desperately sick;
Who can understand it?

“I, the LORD, search the heart,
I test the mind,
Even to give to each man according to his ways,
According to the results of his deeds." Jeremiah 17:9-10

I would ask her specifics, as to why it won't work. Don't get angry if she says something "rude" because she's likely telling the Truth, judging by her character you described. Blessings Friend! Sorry if this sounded rude! I sincerely want to save you a lot of potential hurt.
 
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A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. - James 1:8

Sin in peoples lives make them unstable. They will love you today and hate you tomorrow. In reading into the story I can't help but to think there is a desire for sin in there somewhere!
 
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Love is not something we "try" for. Neither is faith. The Spirit produces the good fruit inside of us, it's nothing we have to struggle to achieve on our own strength. This is important. You will find God's Word to be incredibly helpful in understanding life. If Christ is first in your life, love in relationship is smooth!

Christ's love WILL TRANSFORM our entire life if it is at work within us. If our lifestyle is the same after as it was before, we are still being ruled by our flesh. Anyone who considers themselves a spiritual person will be incredibly cautious about marriage! She wants to know if you can understand her heart (not just her physical appearance).

"I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect." Romans 12:1-2

In a relationship with 'believers', if one has devoted their entire life to Christ and the other has not, it is not going to work. If our entire life is devoted to Christ, marriage naturally comes together. Love is MUTUAL. Good listening comes with patience and patience comes from CHRIST.

There's an enormous difference between believing in Christ, and Living a Christ-like lifestyle through the Word and in Relationship. She is likely wanting someone who can battle with her, love her, cry with her, love peace, and understand what she understands.

God wants us to put Christ before EVERYTHING. That is true faith. That is a disciple. She likely foresees a divorce in the future because of the major difference in maturity, and she will not allow that to happen. Unfortunately, she discerned this after the fact.

"Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership can righteousness have with wickedness? Or what fellowship does light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement can exist between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said:

“I will live with them

and walk among them,

and I will be their God,

and they will be My people.”

“Therefore come out from among them

and be separate, says the Lord.

Touch no unclean thing,

and I will receive you.”

And:

“I will be a father to you,

and you will be My sons and daughters,

says the Lord Almighty.” 2 Corinthians 6:14-18

“The heart is more deceitful than all else
And is desperately sick;
Who can understand it?

“I, the LORD, search the heart,
I test the mind,
Even to give to each man according to his ways,
According to the results of his deeds." Jeremiah 17:9-10

I would ask her specifics, as to why it won't work. Don't get angry if she says something "rude" because she's likely telling the Truth, judging by her character you described. Blessings Friend! Sorry if this sounded rude! I sincerely want to save you a lot of potential hurt.

First thanks for reading my story. No nothing was rude. I agree with you, if Christ is first then the love in relationship is smooth. Knowing this we did start this we but like I said we lost track and tried to get back on the right track. That's where the "let's talk" talks were about. She, coming from a single parent household, doesn't want her relationship to end in a divorce, who does? She told my the reason we can't/doesn't want to continue this relationship is because she's just drained of asking something that hasn't been shown. Like I said, I've been tackling the situation entirely wrong and didn't hear her clearly until it was too late to the point where she made this conclusion because she was so drained. I'm just disappointed the fact that I saw this clearly so late. I was just looking through a fogged up glass when she wanted those "let's talk." It's not that I didn't listen or didn't want to listen, I just wanted to fix one thing at a time when I needed to tackle the foundation and rebuild around God where we both first wanted it to be. Now that I what what's wrong exactly I want to work with her the right was. But is too late really just too late?
 
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In this thing we call life, you need to ensure a two things.

1) That you are your own best friend.
2) That you take 100% responsibility for how you feel internally.

A girl breaks things off with you, okay, that sucks. But remember that the problem isn't with you. And the situation in the worldly scheme of things is just another spoke on the wheel. The wheel will keep turning with or without it. And so will you.

Your relationship with yourself - and most importantly, your relationship with God, are going to remain the two constants throughout your life, and are the two things that you must protect like a rare gemstone. Women will come and go, friends will too. But you and God are eternal. And if you perfect that mindset, then the rest is either minor detail or a mere insignificance.
 
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Once women have "had it" normally it is something that they have well thought over and are quite determined it is time to go. I would get on with my life. It may be that she will have a change of heart but I would think it best to let her go her own direction. And always, pray and seek God's direction on the matter.
 
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A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. - James 1:8

Sin in peoples lives make them unstable. They will love you today and hate you tomorrow. In reading into the story I can't help but to think there is a desire for sin in there somewhere!

First thanks for reading. What do you mean by "there is a desire for sin in there somewhere?"
 
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First thanks for reading. What do you mean by "there is a desire for sin in there somewhere?"

Solomon says... "And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoso pleaseth God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her." - Ecclesiastes 7:26

But with a virtuous woman he says... "Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies. The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil. She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life." - Proverbs 31:10-12

The wrong woman's heart is a snare and a net. Hard to tell, but I sense that there is a desire for a wilder life in there somewhere.
 
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Solomon says... "And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoso pleaseth God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her." - Ecclesiastes 7:26

But with a virtuous woman he says... "Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies. The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil. She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life." - Proverbs 31:10-12

The wrong woman's heart is a snare and a net. Hard to tell, but I sense that there is a desire for a wilder life in there somewhere.

I understand the passage but I don't think we see eye to eye on how you interrupted my story.
 
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If you want your girlfriend back, forget about her for a while and with that time you would have spent, and more, seek to know the Lord better. Ask him to bring you and her back together, keep asking every day, and be patient. Pray specific things, like, that she would come to feel she needs to give you a second chance. If God wants you to marry her, he will use this waiting time to purify you and prepare both you so you will be happier together than is even possible right now. Be prepared to wait for years, because that will give you a better heart through which to seek God (one that is yielded to his will). It would help your heart to also be praying that she would marry the best man God can give her, and that God's will, but not your own, would be done.

Thank you for posting and reading. Yes more time praying, more time talking to God is all I can ask of him. I'm just hoping and have faith that since he brought us once together that it is possible since nothing is impossible through Him.
 
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I understand the passage but I don't think we see eye to eye on how you interrupted my story.

It is hard to judge. For her to call it quits was something she carefully thought out. I am sure that she has her side of the story as well. Christian councellings with a female counselor may be your best bet. A lady counselor would be able to tell you your best move.
 
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Thank you for reading my post. And yes I agree with you. I'm just disappointed in myself that it took me this long to clearly see that and that it's too late according to her. We talked about the triangle analogy (I'm sure you heard of it before) where one point represents me, one represents her and the last point represents God. If we both focus on God we'll just natural come together by moving towards him. We both wanted this and started out like that but somehow along the way what we wanted wasn't represented. I can't say I was moving away from God because I have grown during those times but I just never shared. My attention was more on her and how to fulfill those missing pieces so the two points just never met. But I'm saying now everything is clear, yes I thought about our relationship in detail but just never the root of the problem. I just thought it could be fixed on top of everything. I just want that chance or opportunity to finish our goals and what we started.

Women are attracted to a man who is passionate about something. If you show you are passionate about God, then that would be an attractive thing to her. Granted, in order to show passion for God, there has to be a selling out to God in your life. A major dedication to Christ and to put down the things of this world would help. For your love and passion for Jesus has to come first, and then one can have love for a spouse. Also, the faith and natural affection has to match, too. I know in the past before I was married, that I could not date a woman who was not naturally loving, forgiving, funny, and or who believed in Once Saved Always Saved. Why? because I am strongly against such things. For me, if I am going to spend the rest of my life with this woman, she has to be compatable. I prayed to the Lord for a soul mate. I was blessed by God that the Lord led me to find my soul mate (half away around the world) who also agrees with me in regards to these things within the faith.

My final advice or conclusion: Move on. Dedicate your life to Christ and pray for that right someone to come into your life who is a better match. If she is meant to be your soul mate, then she will return to you, seeing your passion for God. Granted, be passionate for God out of your love for the Lord, and not for a woman. So be pure of heart and sincere. Love your enemies and pray for those who do bad against you. Seek the Lord with everything you got even more.

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I also would see marriage counseling as a problem for those who suggest it. I do not believe that is how life works. You talk out each other's problems and you shouldn't have to have another adult get in the middle of it. If you cannot resolve your problems on your own, then trouble is up ahead. Love learns to not seek itself but it seeks the betterment of others. Love is not something we just feel. Love. Biblical love from God that works in us is far more than that. It is selfless and moves to love God and others (with no thought or concern for ourselves).


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If you cannot resolve your problems on your own, then trouble is up ahead.
If that trouble is that one must work to keep the marriage in good condition, then that's not "work," that's marriage.

Everyone can use help improving their communication skills. Counseling is to resolve ignorance or miscommunication, including failing to identify with the others' feelings. A trained counselor can help with all of those. It can be particularly valuable for people who are already married and don't have the option of just quitting.
 
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If that trouble is that one must work to keep the marriage in good condition, then that's not "work," that's marriage.

Everyone can use help improving their communication skills. Counseling is to resolve ignorance or miscommunication, including failing to identify with the others' feelings. A trained counselor can help with all of those. It can be particularly valuable for people who are already married and don't have the option of just quitting.

There are a lot of successful relationships that did not have to rely on marriage counselors in order for them to work. For one, alot of these counselors are using worldly psychology that is unbiblical to help your marriage. Two, another problem is that the spouse may side with the counselor on something you disagree with. The counselor can be like a wedge between your relationship telling you to do things he/she sees fit that goes against what you believe is morally right or Biblical. Whether it was an idea planted in her head from a counseling session without you or while you are with her. While it is good to have guidance, a counselor can be like an unwanted dictator to your relationship thinking they can solve all your problems by just talking about it. However, love is the key. It's Jesus. The more a couple surrenders their life to Jesus and in focusing on loving others, loving one's spouse as Christ loves the church will just be a natural thing that will correct itself. You are the husband who is supposed to rule your own house in love. The counselor should not be like another husband trying to rule your marriage. You should be able to figure that out with God and her all on your own.


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God made us to be parts of a body, each building each other up. To think we only need Jesus is to get down to core spiritual theory, but no one lives alone with the visible Jesus. We all need other people to help us according to God's commands and giftings. To say one doesn't need other people is pride in one's own abilities, rather than trusting what the Lord has commanded and given us. I only recommend Christians for general psychological therapy, but it depends on the faith of the people in therapy. Some aren't much different than worldly people. As you say, a counselor can be a problem, but it is a lot more common that they are helpful.
 
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