Relating N.D.E.'s to Scripture

[Sammy-San]

After reading the accounts of many near-death experiences (NDEs), I've come to the conclusion that the writers are fabricating their testimonies, namely because practically every NDE is unique and not consistent with what the Bible teaches about the afterlife. After we die, we awaken in our new heavenly bodies, which our souls coexist with, then we become citizens of heaven. None of the NDE testimonies that I've read say this or anything like it.

What about the ones that line up with real life stories of people?

I had a theory some NDEs could be revealing things we aren't supposed to know-and therefore-it doesn't really matter if what it says is true or not.

 

[Sammy-San]

Hell is primarily, the state or condition of being without God in the afterlife. There are places of hell as well. I have heard of the darkness beneath the earth. But never have I heard of hell being at the edge of heaven.

So you don't believe Dean Braxton's testimony?

 

[notforgotten]

So you don't believe Dean Braxton's testimony?

I do not know Dean Braxton's story. Perhaps you could elaborate. Did he find hell at the edge of heaven? I guess it's possible. Anything is possible. It simply would not interest me.

 

[Angel Wings 1288]

What about the ones that line up with real life stories of people?

I had a theory some NDEs could be revealing things we aren't supposed to know-and therefore-it doesn't really matter if what it says is true or not.

Let me know about those real life stories of NDEs so that I can determine if they're legitimate. What are they about? Where did you read them? Can you provide links?

 

[Sammy-San]

I do not know Dean Braxton's story. Perhaps you could elaborate. Did he find hell at the edge of heaven? I guess it's possible. Anything is possible. It simply would not interest me.

Is it unbibical to say hell and the lake of fire are synonymous?

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[notforgotten]

Is it unbibical to say hell and the lake of fire are synonymous?

I believe that they are two different forms of hell. You would be better off asking a theologian.

 

[Sammy-San]

I believe that they are two different forms of hell. You would be better off asking a theologian.

So calling the lake of fire hell isn't bibical?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

What about the ones that line up with real life stories of people?

I had a theory some NDEs could be revealing things we aren't supposed to know-and therefore-it doesn't really matter if what it says is true or not.

Just like WALT DISNEY and PETER PAN?
with the
caveat: All names in this story and events are made up, and do not represent anyone alive or dead
and are not about any experience anyone had in person or otherwise?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I believe that they are two different forms of hell. You would be better off asking a theologian.

gotquestions online is pretty good,
or even just a dictionary.

theologians ? nah.... best not.

 

[Sammy-San]

Just like WALT DISNEY and PETER PAN?
with the
caveat: All names in this story and events are made up, and do not represent anyone alive or dead
and are not about any experience anyone had in person or otherwise?

People say the visions aren't of God-do you agree?

Divine Revelation of HELL

Since when does God anoint books other than his Holy Word (the Bible). From the start this book is claiming something that the Bible claims for itself EXCLUSIVELY. Only God’s word is eternal and it was completed over 1900 years ago. God’s divine Revelation of everything ended with the Book of Revelation. It is the Scriptures that are said to be our guide in instruction (2 Tim.3:16). This right away is concerning for anyone who recognizes the ancient writings of the apostles as Christ's revelation for all time. For the apostle Paul is one of two apostles that went to heaven and he said we are to learn not to think beyond what is written (1 Cor.4:6). Her divine revelation goes beyond the pages of the scripture, beyond the last apostle’s revelation of Jesus Christ revealed in his glory. It counters what Paul implicitly taught in not thinking beyond what is written (by the apostles) to the church for their living a life unto God.
While the first part is true of Satan's defeat at the cross the 2nd is not. Again this is a distortion of Scripture and she is pouring in the current Charismatic view. Where in Scripture are we told that Satan ever had the keys to hell and Jesus confiscated them? She says in another place, Jesus said, “I took the keys of hell away from Satan many years ago. I came and opened these cells and let My people out.” We are told that Jesus possesses the keys (these symbolize authority) to death and Hades (Rev. 1:18). In other words no one goes there without his ruling. In fact the Bible says that hell was made for the Devil and his angels. Who made it? Jesus Christ.

 

[notforgotten]

People say the visions aren't of God-do you agree?

Divine Revelation of HELL

I don't. When I was 9 years old, I had a vision of Jesus while I was completely awake. And I'd rather not debate it. I know what I saw.

 

[Sammy-San]

I don't. When I was 9 years old, I had a vision of Jesus while I was completely awake. And I'd rather not debate it. I know what I saw.

Where did you see him? What did he say?

 

[notforgotten]

Where did you see him? What did he say?

Here is my testimony;

When I was a 9 year old boy and loving the Lord, I saw Jesus in all white, dressed as a shepherd on the wing of an airplane while it was still boarding. I erroneously thought someone was playing a trick on me to make me become highly religious. Then I became agnostic and got lost for 35 years. I began hearing, seeing, wrestling with the unseen and witnessing powers of the invisible spirit world. Evil spirits had come into my life as a consequence of my sin.

I nearly died at the hands of these spirits - both human and demon alike. I've noticed the humans lose their family and friends. They are scattered throughout the netherworld. They have anger and hatred in their hearts. They are masters at the art of deception. Their evil shall not stop without divine intervention and restoration of the soul. They thirst for all that only a most loving Creator can give them. I've discovered that it is the human condition that we are evil and wicked without God in the afterlife. The soul is in ruins and in need of salvation.

1 Peter 4:6. For this reason the gospel was also preached to the dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in spirit.

Father God reached out to me and I heard Him say, "the battle against good and evil has been here since the beginning of time." God battles evil by salvaging souls through His Son, Jesus Christ. The Father's voice sounds of greatness not of this world. The room was filled with an ancient scent from a world long ago. God had done this to let me know that He was there in the beginning of man's time.

I suffered at the hands of these evil spirits for 7 years until I learned that they were real and hence Jesus as well. This is how Jesus had found me to begin my undeserving vocation to be an adopted child of God. He left the flock to find that one lost sheep when I saw Him on the wing of that airplane 35 years earlier.

Luke 15:4-6. What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, 'Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!'

I prayed to Jesus that He would not leave me here to be evil like these spirits. He put my deceased mother behind me. And the most loving scent of her holding me in her bosom as a small child came over me. Jesus had done this to let me know it was her. He was letting me know that I would be with my mom and that He would deliver me from this evil condition known as hell.

I asked Jesus who these spirits were persecuting me. He told me through the Spirit of truth that they were the dead. I could see that they were lost and inquired about them going to heaven. Jesus had sent down the Holy Spirit stopping in front of me and pointing at me. He was telling me that I would make atonement for them. And that He would forgive them of their sins and deliver them into heaven. Jesus is mighty to save.

2 Maccabees 12:46. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin.

Later, I had a dream were Jesus had removed the anger and hatred from these poor souls hearts. He was informing me that the work for atonement had been done. Then, with His powers going through me, He changed them back because the work could not be accepted until the door to my hearing and seeing them was closed. I am currently working on this.

Also, an angel made himself known to me. I've had many dreams and visions, some arranged by God and by the powers of the higher angels, guiding me away from sin, in truth, toward salvation. I thank God for my sufferings and wisdom gained. I am looking forward to being with God in heaven, seeing these spirits restored, and seeing my mom again.

 

[Sammy-San]

Here is my testimony;

When I was a 9 year old boy and loving the Lord, I saw Jesus in all white, dressed as a shepherd on the wing of an airplane while it was still boarding. I erroneously thought someone was playing a trick on me to make me become highly religious. Then I became agnostic and got lost for 35 years. I began hearing, seeing, wrestling with the unseen and witnessing powers of the invisible spirit world. Evil spirits had come into my life as a consequence of my sin.

I nearly died at the hands of these spirits - both human and demon alike. I've noticed the humans lose their family and friends. They are scattered throughout the netherworld. They have anger and hatred in their hearts. They are masters at the art of deception. Their evil shall not stop without divine intervention and restoration of the soul. They thirst for all that only a most loving Creator can give them. I've discovered that it is the human condition that we are evil and wicked without God in the afterlife. The soul is in ruins and in need of salvation.

1 Peter 4:6. For this reason the gospel was also preached to the dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in spirit.

Father God reached out to me and I heard Him say, "the battle against good and evil has been here since the beginning of time." God battles evil by salvaging souls through His Son, Jesus Christ. The Father's voice sounds of greatness not of this world. The room was filled with an ancient scent from a world long ago. God had done this to let me know that He was there in the beginning of man's time.

I suffered at the hands of these evil spirits for 7 years until I learned that they were real and hence Jesus as well. This is how Jesus had found me to begin my undeserving vocation to be an adopted child of God. He left the flock to find that one lost sheep when I saw Him on the wing of that airplane 35 years earlier.

Luke 15:4-6. What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, 'Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!'

I prayed to Jesus that He would not leave me here to be evil like these spirits. He put my deceased mother behind me. And the most loving scent of her holding me in her bosom as a small child came over me. Jesus had done this to let me know it was her. He was letting me know that I would be with my mom and that He would deliver me from this evil condition known as hell.

I asked Jesus who these spirits were persecuting me. He told me through the Spirit of truth that they were the dead. I could see that they were lost and inquired about them going to heaven. Jesus had sent down the Holy Spirit stopping in front of me and pointing at me. He was telling me that I would make atonement for them. And that He would forgive them of their sins and deliver them into heaven. Jesus is mighty to save.

2 Maccabees 12:46. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin.

Later, I had a dream were Jesus had removed the anger and hatred from these poor souls hearts. He was informing me that the work for atonement had been done. Then, with His powers going through me, He changed them back because the work could not be accepted until the door to my hearing and seeing them was closed. I am currently working on this.

Also, an angel made himself known to me. I've had many dreams and visions, some arranged by God and by the powers of the higher angels, guiding me away from sin, in truth, toward salvation. I thank God for my sufferings and wisdom gained. I am looking forward to being with God in heaven, seeing these spirits restored, and seeing my mom again.

Did a specific person lead you to Christ?

I thought bibically you are decided at death your eternity.

 

[notforgotten]

Did a specific person lead you to Christ?

I thought bibically you are decided at death your eternity.

Father God led me to Christ. Jesus knows your entire life and can tell you whether you are going to be in heaven or not before you die.

 

[Sammy-San]

Father God led me to Christ. Jesus knows your entire life and can tell you whether you are going to be in heaven or not before you die.

Souls in the netherworld-not bibical.

 

[notforgotten]

Souls in the netherworld-not bibical.

Souls in the netherworld are the dead and demons in hell. It is extremely biblical.

 

[Sammy-San]

Souls in the netherworld are the dead and demons in hell. It is extremely biblical.

Being redeemed after they go to hell-that is purgatory.

 

[Sammy-San]

Here is my testimony;

When I was a 9 year old boy and loving the Lord, I saw Jesus in all white, dressed as a shepherd on the wing of an airplane while it was still boarding. I erroneously thought someone was playing a trick on me to make me become highly religious. Then I became agnostic and got lost for 35 years. I began hearing, seeing, wrestling with the unseen and witnessing powers of the invisible spirit world. Evil spirits had come into my life as a consequence of my sin.

I nearly died at the hands of these spirits - both human and demon alike. I've noticed the humans lose their family and friends. They are scattered throughout the netherworld. They have anger and hatred in their hearts. They are masters at the art of deception. Their evil shall not stop without divine intervention and restoration of the soul. They thirst for all that only a most loving Creator can give them. I've discovered that it is the human condition that we are evil and wicked without God in the afterlife. The soul is in ruins and in need of salvation.

1 Peter 4:6. For this reason the gospel was also preached to the dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in spirit.

Father God reached out to me and I heard Him say, "the battle against good and evil has been here since the beginning of time." God battles evil by salvaging souls through His Son, Jesus Christ. The Father's voice sounds of greatness not of this world. The room was filled with an ancient scent from a world long ago. God had done this to let me know that He was there in the beginning of man's time.

I suffered at the hands of these evil spirits for 7 years until I learned that they were real and hence Jesus as well. This is how Jesus had found me to begin my undeserving vocation to be an adopted child of God. He left the flock to find that one lost sheep when I saw Him on the wing of that airplane 35 years earlier.

Luke 15:4-6. What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, 'Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!'

I prayed to Jesus that He would not leave me here to be evil like these spirits. He put my deceased mother behind me. And the most loving scent of her holding me in her bosom as a small child came over me. Jesus had done this to let me know it was her. He was letting me know that I would be with my mom and that He would deliver me from this evil condition known as hell.

I asked Jesus who these spirits were persecuting me. He told me through the Spirit of truth that they were the dead. I could see that they were lost and inquired about them going to heaven. Jesus had sent down the Holy Spirit stopping in front of me and pointing at me. He was telling me that I would make atonement for them. And that He would forgive them of their sins and deliver them into heaven. Jesus is mighty to save.

2 Maccabees 12:46. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin.

Later, I had a dream were Jesus had removed the anger and hatred from these poor souls hearts. He was informing me that the work for atonement had been done. Then, with His powers going through me, He changed them back because the work could not be accepted until the door to my hearing and seeing them was closed. I am currently working on this.

Also, an angel made himself known to me. I've had many dreams and visions, some arranged by God and by the powers of the higher angels, guiding me away from sin, in truth, toward salvation. I thank God for my sufferings and wisdom gained. I am looking forward to being with God in heaven, seeing these spirits restored, and seeing my mom again.

Did the angels and God give dreams with bibical messages or extrabibical?