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I missed this. Why wouldn't he? I've never seen a good reason why not.I've heard further!
Back to seriousness, why would Christ be born from a sinner?
ugh. not this "Mary could have stopped God's plan of redemption" thing again.Being that there would be no salvation had Mary said "no" to God, I would answer an emphatic YES!
Love,
Christina
Would it matter either way?I missed this. Why wouldn't he? I've never seen a good reason why not.
It's a diversionugh. not this "Mary could have stopped God's plan of redemption" thing again
Being that there would be no salvation had Mary said "no" to God, I would answer an emphatic YES!
Love,
Christina
Hey Hentenza
He also knew that without her, there could be no Incarnation.
Love,
Christina
sin is not a moral concept. it can be understood as "distance from God".Are you serious?
Elizabeth's greeting to Mary is one of two uses of this term in the Bible; the other instance is at the return of the ark.taint gonna find nothin saying she didnt sin, and personally i dont believe she NEVER sinned.
but she is the most blessed woman as the angel Gabriel tells us.
as for her being the Ark of the New Covenant, I can lay out for you the parallels, but i dont know all the Scriptural references.
So in the OT the Philistines kidnapped the Ark of the Covenant, and the Jews go to get it back:
1. -The Ark is taken to a hilly town near Jerusalem to Obed-Edom's house
-Mary goes to visit Elizabeth in a hilly town near Jerusalem
2. - The Ark remains at his house for 3 months
- Mary remains at Elizabeth's house for 3 months
3. -King David says something along the lines of "who am I that the Ark of my Lord should come to me?"
- Elizabeth says "who am I that the Mother of my Lord should come to me?"
4. - the Ark contained the tablets of the Law, a jar of manna, and Aaron's rod, signifying the priesthood.
- Mary's womb contained the fulfillment of the Law, the Bread of Life, and our High Priest
5. - the glory of the Lord overshadowed the Ark
- the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary
6. - God spoke to the Jews from between the angels on the Ark
- The Word of God came from Mary's womb
7. Also, in Revelation 11 John sees the Ark of the Covenant, and then immediately following he sees the woman who gave birth to the Messiah -- Mary.
It does make her significant.
(The Orthodox do not hold the doctrine of IC. )
Love,
Christina
Its Luke's faultBut EVERYONE considers her to be significant. What I was cautioning about was kiting or linking these things together and then proclaiming that the one requires a belief in the next.
Yes, I know that the EO do not accept the IC, so you can see that one truth about Mary does not logically lead to whatever nice speculation about her mankind can think up in its desire to honor her.
This has not been my observation as a former protestant and a CF member.
Is accepting "Mary as your personal Mother" a condition for salvation?:o
This has not been my observation as a former protestant and a CF member.
But EVERYONE considers her to be significant. What I was cautioning about was kiting or linking these things together and then proclaiming that the one requires a belief in the next.
that can't be answered in a one off. And I'm really not sure where you're going with this. Better to speak your piece, instead of a word game.Who is Christ?
explain.In one sense no but in another sense yes.
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