Rejection of evolution correlates with racism

[2PhiloVoid]

More sarcasm. Is that all you have? Perhaps you should read your own posts - you asked me if I was saying you were only being "dishonest in my interlocution with you?" So no, you didn't say what I said, you continued claiming that I called you dishonest. Please, drop the arrogant tone and grow up.

Awesome. Now please explain how that is so.

Queue avoidance and dancing.....

'Cause if God is God, then He knows best. It's pretty obvious.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

'Cause if God is God, then He knows best. It's pretty obvious.

So just an assertion. How sadly predictable.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

So just an assertion. How sadly predictable.

Do you always use the same rhetorical responses? How obnoxiously repetitive.

 

[BPPLEE]

Sadly, not only is it real, but it was the basis for the case that took nine years to make it to the Supreme Court -- Loving v Virginia (1967), which finally ruled that laws prohibiting interracial marriages were in fact unconstitutional.

Score one for human decency, however -- the Supreme Court's ruling was unanimous.

He had it all wrong. Moses was married to an Ethiopian woman. Ruth was a Moabite. Rahab was a prostitute saved from Israel's enemies. Blame the idiot that made the ruling

 

[Larniavc]

And here's the upshot, and the one that the World today can't grapple with: Biblically speaking, it also isn't evil to execute a wicked culture that lives and breathes, and perpetuates itself by, a wicked philosophy.

This is exactly the thinking that makes people crash planes into buildings.

 

[BPPLEE]

This is exactly the thinking that makes people crash planes into buildings.

They're talking about an action that God himself took. Not radical extremists who claim they act on Gods behalf

 

[TLK Valentine]

Doubt is not a sin.
Since when? We all have doubts. Jesus criticized lack of faith but he didn't condemn the disciples for their lack of faith.

And yet, a Christian who questions the Bible gets harsh treatment from fellow "believers." As I said, you praise the man, but you don't follow hos example.

Even the term "believers" is problematic once you start thinking about it. If you define yourselves as believing, what does that say about the doubters?

You're correct I am not an expert on evolution. I don't claim to be.

Are you willing to learn about evolution?

 

[Larniavc]

They're talking about an action that God himself took. Not radical extremists who claim they act on Gods behalf

Then if God mandated that aeroplane must collide with this building that would be fine?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

This is exactly the thinking that makes people crash planes into buildings.

Really? Is it exactly "biblical thinking" you're thinking of, or is it some other kind of thinking you've mistaken for 'biblical thinking'? You better be sure to think about your next words carefully. We wouldn't want you to get in the sticky mess of making allegations of intent where there are exactly none.

 

[AV1611VET]

So just an assertion. How sadly predictable.

Are His actions just assertions as well?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

They're talking about an action that God himself took. Not radical extremists who claim they act on Gods behalf

See? You get my meaning. Why is it that they can't?

 

[AV1611VET]

Then if God mandated that aeroplane must collide with this building that would be fine?

That's a loaded question.

 

[BPPLEE]

And yet, a Christian who questions the Bible gets harsh treatment from fellow "believers." As I said, you praise the man, but you don't follow hos example.

Even the term "believers" is problematic once you start thinking about it. If you define yourselves as believing, what does that say about the doubters?

You're correct I am not an expert on evolution. I don't claim to be.[/QUOTE]

Are you willing to learn about evolution?[/QUOTE]
I don't treat anyone harshly just because I don't agree. I take pot shots on here but so do you. Sure I'm willing to learn. It's not really evolution I have a problem with it's abiogenesis

 

[BPPLEE]

Then if God mandated that aeroplane must collide with this building that would be fine?

A ridiculous notion

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Do you always use the same rhetorical responses? How obnoxiously repetitive.

If you'd care to offer something that merits a different response I may oblige. Do you actually have anything worthwhile to offer?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Are His actions just assertions as well?

Do you consider stories to be assertions?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

If you'd care to offer something that merits a different response I may oblige. Do you actually have anything worthwhile to offer?

That depends. What kind of response do you consider to be "worthwhile"? In other, more direct words, what are your criteria for a reasonable response on morality and the Biblical God?

I have to ask because this isn't a guessing game and I'm not going to have 4 hours to write out a 5,000 word essay and explain to you Wittgenstein's theory of 'game language,' or why Euthyphro's Dilemma fails when applied to the Biblical God, or why I think part of the discussion will require the deconstruction of your own personal ethical system of thought, among other philosophical and theological issues such as can be involved in the more robust applications of Hermeneutics.

OR, I could instead throw out some half-measure of Christian apologetics like Paul Copan's book, Is God a Moral Monster (2011), and we could discuss the strengths and weaknesses of his analysis. Or we can just shoot the breeze about how you personally interpet the bible.

It all depends on how familiar you are with the fields of philosophy and what you want to discuss, really.

 

[Bradskii]

Within the context of what Abraham is represented to be implying here in moral deliberation with the Lord, the same kind of act by God wouldn't be a necessary evil, but a necessary JUDGEMENT.

Biblically speaking, it's not evil to execute a wicked person.

A woman just gave birth. Do you, personally speaking, think it's OK to drown the baby for any reason whatsoever? And can you skip the name dropping? If it's an alternative to the exhibition of your credentials, I'd prefer it if you put them back in your signature.

 

[Petros2015]

why Euthyphro's Dilemma fails when applied to the Biblical God

“Are the gods not just?"
"Oh no, child. What would become of us if they were?”
― C.S. Lewis, Till We Have Faces

 

[Occams Barber]

'Cause if God is God, then He knows best. It's pretty obvious.

If you place this statement in the context of God wiping out most of the human race then it's easy to see where fanaticism comes from. To suggest that genocide is OK because God said so, indicates the abdication of normal moral judgement. It's a short step from here to "I was only following orders".

This is what I mean when I say that Christianity is morally vacuous. Anything is allowable as long as you can claim God's acquiescence. Thinking becomes unnecessary.

OB