So this is your position:
I prefer a god who has this and that properties. But, unfortunately, such god does not exist.
Is that right?
Can you see the logic error in there?
Seriously? No. That's not right. That is not in any way what I mean. Remember, my intention was to back out of the thread completely so that you people can present whatever you'd like. I even stated that I would be happy to go into detail later, I even put the word "prefer" in quotes because I couldn't come up with a single word that described it. Again, I actually intended to say very little in this thread, and didn't want to go into detail.
Had I the time or inclination to go into a lengthy description I would have said that if I believed in a supreme being, there are certain characteristics, qualities, and attributes that I don't think are "ridiculous". These are qualities that if I did believe in a supreme being, I would more or less expect, or could accept to be present. There are others that even if I believed, I would still find unreasonable for such a being. When I say "prefer", That's to say, I don't have any desire to waste time discussing or listening to arguments or pleas for the "unreasonable deity". I rather prefer discussing the "reasonable deity". There are God concepts I like, that I think are fascinating, and possibly workable, but I don't believe in them because there is no evidence of them to convince me of it. There are concepts that are interesting to consider or think about even if I don't believe in them. It can be interesting to dream what "God" actually could be.
But at the moment, I am beyond annoyed. I actually opened this thread so that you Christians can share more streamlined ideas about God that maybe you think aren't getting through filters because of all the garbage that comes with the label. So I wanted to create a thread to look at some of these garbage-free god-concepts.
I genuinely wanted to hear about those, and I honestly had every intention to only read them without comment or judgment. As Received mentioned, I have gotten so used to hearing the same old outlandish version of God that I just gloss over whenever someone starts describing Him. I really wanted to hear new ones. I had no desire to attack them, or pick at them, or argue against them. I just wanted to hear them. I actually wanted to create a nice, goodwill thread that was about sharing seldom heard ideas. It was an invitation for you to present your idea of what God is. And while I highly doubt I would have been converted, maybe there would have been some interesting new ideas I hadn't considered before. This isn't a thread about what I think is reasonable, or believable, nor is it about what I expect from God, or what I believe. This is for you believers to present more elegant, more reasonable, more nuanced versions of the God-concept without all those parts that drag it down.
And yet, here you are arguing against a strawman position that I didn't actually make, that is ultimately off topic, in order to "take me down" and tell me how illogical I am. I'm sorry I even tried this.
Forget it. This is pointless. I don't think you people have it in you. Let's just say Christians all agree completely on what God is, that you've communicated this very precisely to non-believers everywhere, and they reject it because they're all immoral, Satanist, scum, so we can just go back to spitting on each other.
Mods, you can close the thread.
