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Refuting Sola Scriptura - Why the Bible Alone is Not Sufficient

Do You Adhear to Sola Scriptura?


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tulipbee

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How do we know that these particular books are written by men without inspiration from God?
Not only the 66 books has been scientifically proven while the 7 books don't have the same pattern, this proves, with calculators, that added traditions of the canon got blown out of the water sky high still going upwards, instantly and accurately. While Catholics deny due to the papal systems propagandas, those that want to take a calculator and go to post #361, they can see the truths physicaly exposed right before their very own physical eyes. Simplicity and truths refutes the extra man made books and false traditions. The Protestants are ahead of their time.
 
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Well, that was fun, but the topic is the sufficiency of Scripture. All those who don't think it is adequate for its purpose and think the opinions of men are equally authoritative, please offer us some real reasons for thinking it to be so.
The Bible is adequate, but it is not sufficient. Sure the scripture contain what we need to be saved, because that is important. But the Bible does not contain everything we need to live Godly lives, unless of course you pick and choose various scriptures to create an opinion. The Holy Spirit lives within the church and guides us on today's issues we face.

Things like euthanasia, abortion, in-veto fertilization, fracking, recycling, and the like.

When you use the Bible alone, you get incorrect interpretation like SB's believing alcohol is a sin, or others who think 'graven images' are sinful. If you believe in absolute truth, then 99% of 'Christians' have it wrong.
 
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and by those who don't...but nevertheless think that only God is entitled to worship. ;)

It's also instructive to read back through the posts and see that it's not those opposed to saint worship, etc. who have resorted to personal attacks and insulting words. Think about it. People judge the merits of any disagreement here by whether or not that kind of thing gets resorted to, or whether a sound argument appears instead.
Stop goading. I already addressed this.

Anyone who claims to be Catholic and worships anyone other then God is not a Catholic. Heresy invokes automatic excommunication. So the second someone who is a baptized Catholic worships anyone other then God, they are not Catholic. Because they are a heretic. It is canon law. CIC 1364:1 to be specific.
 
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Yes He did. But that has nothing to do with taking Bible as the only authority. Catholics believe that God inspired every book as well, but we also recognize that the Holy Spirit is living and active in the Church.

When God started the bible is complete, we ought to take it seriously. The protests took it seriously a long time ago. The spirit had moved on to betters things
 
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True that you cannot rely on Scripture without spiritual help. You cannot pick and choose or interpret things without guidance. The Holy Spirit continues to work in the Church today. Through its clergy, religious etc. It helps guide people. It helps people to understand scripture, It helps direct people in their lives!!

Today, i had a chat with a religious about issues in my life / faith. You know, i am sure the Holy spirit was using her to help me!! This is the same with scripture / Bible. We need guidance and what better guidance than the Holy Spirit which works in and through the Church!
 
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True that you cannot rely on Scripture without spiritual help. You cannot pick and choose or interpret things without guidance. The Holy Spirit continues to work in the Church today. Through its clergy, religious etc. It helps guide people. It helps people to understand scripture, It helps direct people in their lives!!

Today, i had a chat with a religious about issues in my life / faith. You know, i am sure the Holy spirit was using her to help me!! This is the same with scripture / Bible. We need guidance and what better guidance than the Holy Spirit which works in and through the Church!

Holy spirit is the illuminance of the word in the 66 book.
 
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When God started the bible is complete, we ought to take it seriously. The protests took it seriously a long time ago. The spirit had moved on to betters things
Do you mean 'stated' the Bible is complete. If so, when did he say that?
 
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Fine, but disagreements over interpretation and worshipping the Bible are miles apart as issues.

If we agree that the "they worship the Bible" claim is bogus, that's a gain, since differences of opinion about the meaning of some or many Bible verses is a part of Christianity and affects every denomination. The point there is that it's the Bible that holds the answers, not something of Man instead.

When I attended a Catholic service, I observed the Bible being held in great reverence and being kissed as mark of worship. This is something different from Protestant's treatment of the book.
 
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When I attended a Catholic service, I observed the Bible being held in great reverence and being kissed as mark of worship. This is something different from Protestant's treatment of the book.
Yes, we also stand when the Gospel is being read as a sign of reverence for Christ's teachings in His ministry.
 
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66 book and not the extra 7 books. In other words God moved through men to remove those extra books on purpose. If He did that then that means God doesn't like your extra traditions either
Not men. One man, a heretic. God does not move his people to believe 73 books are inspired, and then 1500 years later change his mind.

Are you aware that Luther also tried to remove James and Hebrews with the seven deuterocanonical. But that was to radical for his followers so he left them in. But he did place then in a 'appendix' to encourage people not to read them.

He was a man with his own agenda. Not moved by God. He wanted to push this 'sola scriptura' non-sense on everyone so everyone would follow him instead of Christ.
 
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He said bugger off and stop adding to the bible and let the Protestants do the work of the holy spirit through the universal Catholic church.
Who is your pastor? Does he know your beliefs?
 
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Not men. One man, a heretic. God does not move his people to believe 73 books are inspired, and then 1500 years later change his mind.

Are you aware that Luther also tried to remove James and Hebrews with the seven deuterocanonical. But that was to radical for his followers so he left them in. But he did place then in a 'appendix' to encourage people not to read them.

He was a man with his own agenda. Not moved by God. He wanted to push this 'sola scriptura' non-sense on everyone so everyone would follow him instead of Christ.

It ended as the 66 book however it happened
 
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It ended as the 66 book however it happened
Really, you don't even know how your 66 book Bible came about?

Okay, well educate yourself first with the origin of your Bible. Because I am using evidence to support my arguments, and if you don't even know how your bible originated, you will not understand.

Ignorance may be bliss in this life, but hell fire ain't bliss.
 
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