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Post 1875 has no holy scripture quote or citations in it. When will you be providing some?
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Post 1875 has no holy scripture quote or citations in it. When will you be providing some?See post #1875. Can you agree? If not, why not?
See post #1875. Can you agree? If not, why not?
I agree with holy scripture's statements. I do not see in those passages a claim that "the Bible is the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine and practice", do you and if you do where?updated #1875
Scripture gives a demonstration in Acts, not the word for word statement you require.I agree with holy scripture's statements. I do not see in those passages a claim that "the Bible is the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine and practice", do you and if you do where?
Where does it state its own sufficiency? Surely not in Acts 17.Scripture gives a demonstration in Acts, not the word for word statement you require.
Where it states its own sufficiency, you find it insufficient.
ALSO, when Paul entered into Thessalonica he went into the synagogue of the Jews and for "3 sabbath days reasoned with them out of (from) the scriptures". . . . and was considered as "these that have turned the world upside down" teaching "another king, Jesus"! For this is what he taught "from the scriptures" - "Opening and alleging that Christ must needs have suffered and risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus whom I preach unto you is Christ". (Acts 17) Yes, what is in scripture must back up what is tradition.
Acts17:[10] And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.
[11] These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
Sola Scriptura is simply searching the scriptures to see if whatever you hear from wherever is true (within context). This passage also shows how the NT gospel Paul was telling them could be verified by the types & shadows as well as the prophecies in the OT scriptures.
Aside from the exact words missing, why do you fail to see this in operation in the OT as Christ, Peter, and Paul demonstrate?I agree with holy scripture's statements. I do not see in those passages a claim that "the Bible is the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine and practice", do you and if you do where?
You don't know what Tradition is, we don't know what SS is. We're even.Paul references none of RC Traditions. You've provided nothing.
Of course, leave that aside. The contents of the Bible is one Tradition...Leaving aside the question of the number of valid (God-breathed) OT books, would folks think the OT is lacking or is it complete for all things doctrinal and practice?
No disagreement, except in you declaring that the Bible contains all of God's word...Yes, there may be interpretation, but the authority was scripture. Scripture is over which they might argue.
Yes, they may cite someone's tradition, but the authority was scripture. Not the tradition per se.
Here's Christ in Luke 24:27.
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Here's Peter in 2 Peter 1:21.
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Here's Paul in Acts 26:22.
Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:
Everyone good? Any disagreement?
So, SS is in OT.
SS doesn't limit God. It limits the authority of claims people make to the scripture.Of course, leave that aside. The contents of the Bible is one Tradition...
No disagreement, except in you declaring that the Bible contains all of God's word...
Yah, but do you know why? Because we know the Truth, and our Traditions are Truth. Why would anyone renounce Truth?I answered your questions. I already know you cannot renounce your religion's Traditions.
Claiming that Scripture contains the totality of God's Word is limiting God. Especially when He told us specifically that he would send an Advocate to guide the Apostles into all Truth.SS doesn't limit God. It limits the authority of claims people make to the scripture.
My point has been this exactly.I agree with holy scripture's statements. I do not see in those passages a claim that "the Bible is the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine and practice", do you and if you do where?
Why would I not rely on Jesus' quotes? Nobody here is discounting Scripture at all. We're saying that it ain't everything, don't you get it yet?Aint it funnier you rely on quotes.
I see you're back, after unsubscribing. Did you have a nice nap?
You've erected a straw man and are blowing mighty winds at it.Claiming that Scripture contains the totality of God's Word is limiting God. Especially when He told us specifically that he would send an Advocate to guide the Apostles into all Truth.
If it ain't everything, it ain't nothin'.We're saying that it ain't everything, don't you get it yet?
You've erected a straw man and are blowing mighty winds at it.
Sola scriptura (Latin ablative, "by Scripture alone") is the Christian doctrine that the Bible is the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine and practice.
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Do you see where that definition says scripture contains the totality of God's word?
Well, first, it's inaccurate. It's not a Christian doctrine, it's a Protestant doctrine. Secondly, if the Bible is the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine, and SS is nowhere in Scripture, it's self-refuting. Thirdly, there's no doctrine in Scripture. What we believe is that Scripture, along with Sacred Tradition, which complements Scripture, is where we get the authority for all matters of doctrine and practice, with the authority given to the Apostles, and their successors.You've erected a straw man and are blowing mighty winds at it.
Sola scriptura (Latin ablative, "by Scripture alone") is the Christian doctrine that the Bible is the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine and practice.
-wiki-
Do you see where that definition says scripture contains the totality of God's word?
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