Refuting Sola Scriptura - Why the Bible Alone is Not Sufficient

[MoreCoffee]

See post #1875. Can you agree? If not, why not?

Post 1875 has no holy scripture quote or citations in it. When will you be providing some?

 

[Standing Up]

updated #1875

 

[MoreCoffee]

See post #1875. Can you agree? If not, why not?

updated #1875

I agree with holy scripture's statements. I do not see in those passages a claim that "the Bible is the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine and practice", do you and if you do where?

 

[Rick Otto]

Ain't it funny that they never quote "Truly, Truly I SAY unto you..."???

Aint it funnier you rely on quotes.

 

[Rick Otto]

I agree with holy scripture's statements. I do not see in those passages a claim that "the Bible is the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine and practice", do you and if you do where?

Scripture gives a demonstration in Acts, not the word for word statement you require.
Where it states its own sufficiency, you find it insufficient.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Scripture gives a demonstration in Acts, not the word for word statement you require.
Where it states its own sufficiency, you find it insufficient.

Where does it state its own sufficiency? Surely not in Acts 17.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

ALSO, when Paul entered into Thessalonica he went into the synagogue of the Jews and for "3 sabbath days reasoned with them out of (from) the scriptures". . . . and was considered as "these that have turned the world upside down" teaching "another king, Jesus"! For this is what he taught "from the scriptures" - "Opening and alleging that Christ must needs have suffered and risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus whom I preach unto you is Christ". (Acts 17) Yes, what is in scripture must back up what is tradition.

Acts17:[10] And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.
[11] These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Sola Scriptura is simply searching the scriptures to see if whatever you hear from wherever is true (within context). This passage also shows how the NT gospel Paul was telling them could be verified by the types & shadows as well as the prophecies in the OT scriptures.

 

[Standing Up]

I agree with holy scripture's statements. I do not see in those passages a claim that "the Bible is the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine and practice", do you and if you do where?

Aside from the exact words missing, why do you fail to see this in operation in the OT as Christ, Peter, and Paul demonstrate?

 

[Root of Jesse]

Paul references none of RC Traditions. You've provided nothing.

You don't know what Tradition is, we don't know what SS is. We're even.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Leaving aside the question of the number of valid (God-breathed) OT books, would folks think the OT is lacking or is it complete for all things doctrinal and practice?

Of course, leave that aside. The contents of the Bible is one Tradition...

Yes, there may be interpretation, but the authority was scripture. Scripture is over which they might argue.

Yes, they may cite someone's tradition, but the authority was scripture. Not the tradition per se.

Here's Christ in Luke 24:27.
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

Here's Peter in 2 Peter 1:21.
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Here's Paul in Acts 26:22.
Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:

Everyone good? Any disagreement?

So, SS is in OT.

No disagreement, except in you declaring that the Bible contains all of God's word...

 

[Standing Up]

Of course, leave that aside. The contents of the Bible is one Tradition...
No disagreement, except in you declaring that the Bible contains all of God's word...

SS doesn't limit God. It limits the authority of claims people make to the scripture.

 

[Root of Jesse]

I answered your questions. I already know you cannot renounce your religion's Traditions.

Yah, but do you know why? Because we know the Truth, and our Traditions are Truth. Why would anyone renounce Truth?

 

[Root of Jesse]

SS doesn't limit God. It limits the authority of claims people make to the scripture.

Claiming that Scripture contains the totality of God's Word is limiting God. Especially when He told us specifically that he would send an Advocate to guide the Apostles into all Truth.

 

[Root of Jesse]

I agree with holy scripture's statements. I do not see in those passages a claim that "the Bible is the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine and practice", do you and if you do where?

My point has been this exactly.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Aint it funnier you rely on quotes.

Why would I not rely on Jesus' quotes? Nobody here is discounting Scripture at all. We're saying that it ain't everything, don't you get it yet?

 

[Root of Jesse]

I see you're back, after unsubscribing. Did you have a nice nap?

 

[Standing Up]

Claiming that Scripture contains the totality of God's Word is limiting God. Especially when He told us specifically that he would send an Advocate to guide the Apostles into all Truth.

You've erected a straw man and are blowing mighty winds at it.

Sola scriptura (Latin ablative, "by Scripture alone") is the Christian doctrine that the Bible is the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine and practice.
-wiki-

Do you see where that definition says scripture contains the totality of God's word?

 

[Job8]

We're saying that it ain't everything, don't you get it yet?

If it ain't everything, it ain't nothin'.

 

[Fireinfolding]

You've erected a straw man and are blowing mighty winds at it.

Sola scriptura (Latin ablative, "by Scripture alone") is the Christian doctrine that the Bible is the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine and practice.
-wiki-

Do you see where that definition says scripture contains the totality of God's word?

I got to remember that made me laugh

 

[Root of Jesse]

You've erected a straw man and are blowing mighty winds at it.

Sola scriptura (Latin ablative, "by Scripture alone") is the Christian doctrine that the Bible is the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine and practice.
-wiki-

Do you see where that definition says scripture contains the totality of God's word?

Well, first, it's inaccurate. It's not a Christian doctrine, it's a Protestant doctrine. Secondly, if the Bible is the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine, and SS is nowhere in Scripture, it's self-refuting. Thirdly, there's no doctrine in Scripture. What we believe is that Scripture, along with Sacred Tradition, which complements Scripture, is where we get the authority for all matters of doctrine and practice, with the authority given to the Apostles, and their successors.