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If you've read their clarifying comments, you'll find you're wrong. As to your religion, do you have a source that states what you have said for you personally?
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The Bible is regarded as the most important part of holy tradition;
Not to interrupt your point, but for him to say that the "Bible is the most important part of Tradition" automatically admits that something else is as good as the word of God.If you've read their clarifying comments, you'll find you're wrong. As to your religion, do you have a source that states what you have said for you personally?
They become a denomination on thier first man made tradition. They left the orthodox and went thier own way.The Catholic idea of "Tradition" does not require there to be any Biblical support, let along proof. The presumed authority of the church itself to define doctrine, along with an absence of Biblical opposition to whatever the doctrine might be is considered to be sufficient.
They become a denomination on thier first man made tradition. They left the orthodox and went thier own way.
That's to use the word in a totally different sense, though.The Protestants are universal Catholic church as well.
RCC will fight agianst that cause they want to protect their denomination while orthodox wants to the same thing. The RCC and orthodox fight among each other. Why?
Old cars break, new cars runs. The holy spirit is still alive today running the ChurchThat's to use the word in a totally different sense, though.
It's the oldest continuing rivalry of importance in Christendom, and the reasons are ethnic pride and competing claims to be the older church.
Bees on the other hand, are having a tough time of it. Watch out for that Fortran, Lasso, and Roundup.Old cars break, new cars runs. The holy spirit is still alive today running the Church
Actually, it doesn't matter that "neither do Catholics". What matters is that the faith is consistent, and we find that faith documented in the Catechism, which is the same for all Catholics, regardless of how much or how little they agree with it. And I wonder how you know that all Protestants agree with your interpretation of Mark 7:6-13, especially in light of the first 5 verses of that chapter...Neither do Catholics. But the Protestants agree on what the Bible is and they agree that Christ was using the "sola scriptura" test of tradition and doctrine - in Mark 7:6-13 to hammer the church traditions of Jewish Magesterium.
Of course, my Church (which is the Church and not a denomination)encompasses the vast majority of Christians, so saying 'only really exists in your Church and your Church alone" pretty much encompasses most Christians...)Interesting. Apparently you and RootofJesse are at odds with each other on this issue. However, I think each of you is viewing this issue from differing aspects. On one hand, RoJ asserts that, of course, there is no disagreement with ST because it only really exists in your Church and in your Church alone.
I don't think thecolorsblend recognizes any but one Church, but with many denominations. I recognize that there's many denominations, too.You, on the other hand, at least recognize the existence of churches outside of your own, although you readily dismiss them as lacking consistent ST. In both cases, you agree that ST is contained in your denomination and your denomination alone.
Modern science is a poor example. Modern science has widely disparate views of many things. Secondly, Papal Bulls are not necessarily ST. Thirdly, the doctrine of Purgatory-that it exists, what it is, what it is not, is set in stone. How people describe it, which is not ST, is different.Modern science, being a relatively closed system, is not unlike your ST. It is internally consistent and, therefore, its proponents can sincerely make the claim that it reflects the Truth faithfully. Your ST, by contrast, contains a number of internal flaws and discrepancies, such as the myriad Papal Bulls which have been retired to the dustbins of the Vatican. Even on such an essential doctrine as Purgatory, your magisterium has not proven to be definitive.
Nope, ST is more ancient, closer to the source (Jesus), and therefore superior.Westminster confessions are great sources and contains quote proofs. Did we tie?
Simply wrong.The Catholic idea of "Tradition" does not require there to be any Biblical support, let along proof. The presumed authority of the church itself to define doctrine, along with an absence of Biblical opposition to whatever the doctrine might be is considered to be sufficient.
Not in worship, which is where it really matters.No, that's actually not true. Some national churches include books that others do not have.
Don't keep us in suspense. Which churches "barely regard sacred scripture at all?" And BTW, "barely regard" it as what?
No, it admits that something else IS the Word of God...And God's Word is equal to God's Word.Not to interrupt your point, but for him to say that the "Bible is the most important part of Tradition" automatically admits that something else is as good as the word of God.
How, one may ask, can anything be equal to that which is revealed to us by God himself?
Actually, we agree about that. Protestants are part of the universal Church.The Protestants are universal Catholic church as well. RCC will fight agianst that cause they want to protect their denomination while orthodox wants to the same thing. The RCC and orthodox fight among each other. Why?
No, it admits that something else IS the Word of God...And God's Word is equal to God's Word.
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