Refuting OSAS in jesus name

[lori milne]

Whenever I come across a thread where a poster is really far off the mark - I like to look up a few of their other threads and posts to see how they think and talk and what their pet doctrines are. In this case it was quite an interesting trip down cuckoo bird lane.

So free will is crazy and being robots is sane?

 

[FreeGrace2]

I said this:
"No you're not. Your view has been refuted. Way back on p. 56, and post #556, I challenged your view that Christ died only for "past sins" with this: "If Christ only died for "past sins", as being claimed, then He didn't die for all of them, which is NOT stated anywhere in Scripture. Your view is wholly unsubstantiated in Scripture. Further, the Greek word for "once for all" found in Rom 6:10, Heb 7:27, 9:12 and 10:10 are about His death for sins. ephapax Thayer Definition: 1) once, at once 1a) all at once 1b) once for all iow, He died ONE TIME for ALL SINS. Rom 6:10 - For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. Heb 7:27 - 7who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the sins of the people, because this He did once for all when He offered up Himself. Heb 9:12 - and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, He entered the holy place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. Heb 10:10 - By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. I hope these verses will put to rest your errant view of "past sins". Jesus Christ died once for all sins. Your view misunderstands Rom 3:25." And all of this was ignored. And there is another verse that refutes your view: Col 2;13,14 - 13When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross. These verses refute your view that Christ died only for the so-called "past sins"."

I did my best to answer all your versus against my better judgement of it being not in good cheer

Actually, not any of these verses were dealt with. If I'm wrong, please at least direct me to the post where these verses (any of them) were dealt with.

Please no I'm just trying to be closed minded but rather open to anything you say.

This is contradictory. "I'm just trying to be closed minded" with "rather open to anything you say".

Which is it?

These answers were of all honesty and in good cheer

Either address these verses, or direct me to the posts where they were.

Thanks.

 

[lori milne]

I said this: "No you're not. Your view has been refuted. Way back on p. 56, and post #556, I challenged your view that Christ died only for "past sins" with this: "If Christ only died for "past sins", as being claimed, then He didn't die for all of them, which is NOT stated anywhere in Scripture. Your view is wholly unsubstantiated in Scripture. Further, the Greek word for "once for all" found in Rom 6:10, Heb 7:27, 9:12 and 10:10 are about His death for sins. ephapax Thayer Definition: 1) once, at once 1a) all at once 1b) once for all iow, He died ONE TIME for ALL SINS. Rom 6:10 - For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. Heb 7:27 - 7who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the sins of the people, because this He did once for all when He offered up Himself. Heb 9:12 - and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, He entered the holy place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. Heb 10:10 - By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. I hope these verses will put to rest your errant view of "past sins". Jesus Christ died once for all sins. Your view misunderstands Rom 3:25." And all of this was ignored. And there is another verse that refutes your view: Col 2;13,14 - 13When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross. These verses refute your view that Christ died only for the so-called "past sins"." Actually, not any of these verses were dealt with. If I'm wrong, please at least direct me to the post where these verses (any of them) were dealt with. This is contradictory. "I'm just trying to be closed minded" with "rather open to anything you say". Which is it? Either address these verses, or direct me to the posts where they were. Thanks.

Go back I responded to every one in
Separate posts

 

[FreeGrace2]

Go back I responded to every one in
Separate posts

No, you didn't. Given that I have commented on how many of your sentences didn't make any sense to me, and I asked for clarification yet never received any, if there were any answers, they were unintelligible.

In general, when I quoted verses along with questions, what I got back was different verses that didn't relate to the ones I quoted, and more questions.

Citing other verses and asking more questions isn't an answer.

Now, I proved from Scripture in post #556 that Christ died for all sins. You've not provided any refutation of that.

I also proved from Scripture that our salvation is secure and guaranteed, and NOT from any conditions. And none of those verses were addressed.

John 10:28,29 says that "no one" can snatch believers from God's hand. That phrase "no one" means "not any person", and thus includes even the believer him/her self.

Rom 8:38 says that neither "things present nor things future" can separate us (believers) from the love of Christ. The phrase in quotes refers to anything that might occur in the present or future. And there were no exclusions about the present or future. Therefore, even disobedient believers will NOT be separated from the love of Christ. They will certainly be disciplined during their life on earth, and lose out on significant reward and blessing in eternity.

So there is no need to keep claiming that the OSAS position is that one can sin without consequence. That kind of claim is a blatant LIE.

And finally, the Bible makes crystal clear that the Holy Spirit is given to every believer as a promise or pledge or guarantee for…the day of redemption!!

Eph 1:13,14, 4:30, 2 Cor 1:22, 5:5.

The "day of redemption" which is future, is guaranteed on the basis of the indwelling Holy Spirit.

 

[lori milne]

No, you didn't. Given that I have commented on how many of your sentences didn't make any sense to me, and I asked for clarification yet never received any, if there were any answers, they were unintelligible. In general, when I quoted verses along with questions, what I got back was different verses that didn't relate to the ones I quoted, and more questions. Citing other verses and asking more questions isn't an answer. Now, I proved from Scripture in post #556 that Christ died for all sins. You've not provided any refutation of that. I also proved from Scripture that our salvation is secure and guaranteed, and NOT from any conditions. And none of those verses were addressed. John 10:28,29 says that "no one" can snatch believers from God's hand. That phrase "no one" means "not any person", and thus includes even the believer him/her self. Rom 8:38 says that neither "things present nor things future" can separate us (believers) from the love of Christ. The phrase in quotes refers to anything that might occur in the present or future. And there were no exclusions about the present or future. Therefore, even disobedient believers will NOT be separated from the love of Christ. They will certainly be disciplined during their life on earth, and lose out on significant reward and blessing in eternity. So there is no need to keep claiming that the OSAS position is that one can sin without consequence. That kind of claim is a blatant LIE. And finally, the Bible makes crystal clear that the Holy Spirit is given to every believer as a promise or pledge or guarantee for…the day of redemption!! Eph 1:13,14, 4:30, 2 Cor 1:22, 5:5. The "day of redemption" which is future, is guaranteed on the basis of the indwelling Holy Spirit.

Then your not seeing the responses
None of the responses had questions just statements about how none of them proving he died once for all sins was for unrepented or repented sins
Which would verify if they were currently being committed or past / confessed/ repented

 

[seekingsolace]

Lori, i'm worried that you are taking verses out of context, ignoring the entire truth shown in the chapters. The verse in question is about true and false disciples, preceding this was a description of identifying false prophets by their fruits, after is a description of a foundation of the believer and the rewards. Throughout Jesus ministry he described these hypocrites who professed to believe, but were shown to be false by their actions.

Salvation is always by faith not works, to trust in the work of Jesus on the cross. Works are the fruit of the Spirit, not the means of salvation. Repentance is returning to fellowship with the Lord.

Romans. 4:5-8
"But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works:
“Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven,
And whose sins are covered;
Blessed is the man to whom the LORD shall not impute sin.”

Acts 10:43
"Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins.”

Acts 26:18 – Jesus to Saul at being sent to preach the Gospel to Gentiles
"to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me."

 

[FreeGrace2]

Then your not seeing the responses

I am not seeing what is NOT there!! And this type of response only proves that there were no answers.

None of the responses had questions just statements about how none of them proving he died once for all sins was for unrepented or repented sins

Just more opinions. If they didn't prove that He died once for all sins, then why haven't you provided any clear explanation of how they didn't? Just making a claim without any evidence at all has no value.

 

[lori milne]

Lori, i'm worried that you are taking verses out of context, ignoring the entire truth shown in the chapters. The verse in question is about true and false disciples, preceding this was a description of identifying false prophets by their fruits, after is a description of a foundation of the believer and the rewards. Throughout Jesus ministry he described these hypocrites who professed to believe, but were shown to be false by their actions. Salvation is always by faith not works, to trust in the work of Jesus on the cross. Works are the fruit of the Spirit, not the means of salvation. Repentance is returning to fellowship with the Lord. Romans. 4:5-8 "But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works: “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, And whose sins are covered; Blessed is the man to whom the LORD shall not impute sin.” Acts 10:43 "Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins.” Acts 26:18 – Jesus to Saul at being sent to preach the Gospel to Gentiles "to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me."

I agree with every one of the verses in the bible
To have faith is the believe in the entire word if God/ believe in Jesus
If you do then Gods imputed righteousness keeps you in his favor And you want to obey
Romans 3-4 speaks of this clearly with David and Abraham as examples of works preformed after faith as a willingness because you want to

Why is wanting to not sin
Vs being a sinner so hard to swallow

Isaiah speaks so well about this as well
Isaiah 59:14-21
The man is a sinner who God can't look apon
or even hear but as soon as he turns from sin to God for salvation from sin God imputed his righteousness and armor and zeal
That's to me the strength we need to not want through faith we have " to not thirst "or not want" as jesus said will be.

The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want. ([bless and do not curse]Psalms‬ [bless and do not curse]23‬:[bless and do not curse]1‬ KJV)

But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. ([bless and do not curse]John‬ [bless and do not curse]4‬:[bless and do not curse]14‬ KJV)


And I know my sins are covered as well that he died and rose for all sins
I just don't think we should take it in vain
Free from sin isn't free to sin according to the bible.
Romans 3:25 these are all past sins
It doesn't say un repented sins
And it doesn't say current or future.
It's past
Leviticus speaks of this as well
Confession of sin past that were committed but now are confessed.

Hebrew 10:26 covers that again
Willfully sinning isn't covered

 

[lori milne]

Lori, i'm worried that you are taking verses out of context, ignoring the entire truth shown in the chapters. The verse in question is about true and false disciples, preceding this was a description of identifying false prophets by their fruits, after is a description of a foundation of the believer and the rewards. Throughout Jesus ministry he described these hypocrites who professed to believe, but were shown to be false by their actions. Salvation is always by faith not works, to trust in the work of Jesus on the cross. Works are the fruit of the Spirit, not the means of salvation. Repentance is returning to fellowship with the Lord. Romans. 4:5-8 "But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works: “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, And whose sins are covered; Blessed is the man to whom the LORD shall not impute sin.” Acts 10:43 "Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins.” Acts 26:18 – Jesus to Saul at being sent to preach the Gospel to Gentiles "to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me."

Thank you for the good cheer brother

Amen

 

[lori milne]

This says don't continue in sin clearly As does Romans 3:25 clearly says past sins. God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that ARE PAST, through the forbearance of God Romans 6:9-13,15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid

This was to free grace

 

[lori milne]

Hebrews 7:27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself Says nothing about current sins being covered or future. It just says his sins No implication of repented or sins currently being committed

This was to free grace

 

[lori milne]

The first two need to be read and responded to then I'll post the rest
Just don't want you to not see them

 

[lori milne]

I am not seeing what is NOT there!! And this type of response only proves that there were no answers. Just more opinions. If they didn't prove that He died once for all sins, then why haven't you provided any clear explanation of how they didn't? Just making a claim without any evidence at all has no value.

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The only point I was making was repented of would be past not unrepented sins

Does it say any ware that they are for unrepented sins ?

And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. ([bless and do not curse]Luke‬ [bless and do not curse]24‬:[bless and do not curse]47‬ KJV)

 

[seekingsolace]

And I know my sins are covered as well that he died and rose for all sins
I just don't think we should take it in vain
Free from sin isn't free to sin according to the bible.
Romans 3:25 these are all past sins
It doesn't say un repented sins
And it doesn't say current or future.
It's past
Leviticus speaks of this as well
Confession of sin past that were committed but now are confessed.

Hebrew 10:26 covers that again
Willfully sinning isn't covered

Nothing we can do in this life on our own accord will ever make you right with the Lord. We cannot give anything to God that he has not given us, thats the beauty of His Grace. Jesus is acting as High Priest in intercession for us, simply put it is ongoing, not past sin but all sin. You accept Christs gift, you are saved, you refuse Christ, you reject the gift.

That being said, I agree people should not continue sinning if they truly believe in God and want to obey Him. But if a person sins, and we all sin regardless of what people believe - God justifies, not us, they do not lose salvation. I would argue that you really aren't a true believer if you do not repent of sins, so that should be a mute point.

When you believe you are sealed with the Holy Spirit, as a promise from God until the day of redemption. In the Epistles it was quite clear many had fallen back into their sinful lives, Paul did not claim they had lost salvation, if you fall off the track after being saved, you get back on from where you left, not from the beginning.

I hope that clears it up somewhat.

 

[lori milne]

Nothing we can do in this life on our own accord will ever make you right with the Lord. We cannot give anything to God that he has not given us, thats the beauty of His Grace. Jesus is acting as High Priest in intercession for us, simply put it is ongoing, not past sin but all sin. You accept Christs gift, you are saved, you refuse Christ, you reject the gift. That being said, I agree people should not continue sinning if they truly believe in God and want to obey Him. But if a person sins, and we all sin regardless of what people believe - God justifies, not us, they do not lose salvation. I would argue that you really aren't a true believer if you do not repent of sins, so that should be a mute point. When you believe you are sealed with the Holy Spirit, as a promise from God until the day of redemption. In the Epistles it was quite clear many had fallen back into their sinful lives, Paul did not claim they had lost salvation, if you fall off the track after being saved, you get back on from where you left, not from the beginning. I hope that clears it up somewhat.

I do believe we can loose our salvation because it is clear In more passages the not clear or contrary
This one is a clear contradiction to that idea
You can walk away or deny the faith


But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel. ([bless and do not curse]1 Timothy‬ [bless and do not curse]5‬:[bless and do not curse]8‬ KJV)

I try to weigh the entire word of God so j can see clearly what God says not a pastor or a theology
No offense

Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die:

because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand
> Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul<

([bless and do not curse]Ezekiel&#8236; [bless and do not curse]3&#8236;:[bless and do not curse]20-21&#8236; KJV)

 

[seekingsolace]

I can't stress the important of using rules of interpretation when reading the Bible, God does not create disorder, but order.

I Timothy 5:8 illustrates that a person that does not care for their own, is worse than an unbeliever. Since the gospel is that of love, they are acting contrary to it. This does not say that person has become unsaved.

It's important that you understand the dispensations and the change in periods. You cannot directly quote a verse and ignore all other related passages. God does not revoke a promise, thus a true believer is eternally secure. If a person walks away from the faith, they were never a true believer.

Hebrews 6 is a warning of not progressing, keeping the false doctrine of salvation by works and not faith, thus re crucifying Jesus and nullifying the fullness of His Grace.

 

[lori milne]

I can't stress the important of using rules of interpretation when reading the Bible, God does not create disorder, but order. I Timothy 5:8 illustrates that a person that does not care for their own, is worse than an unbeliever. Since the gospel is that of love, they are acting contrary to it. This does not say that person has become unsaved. It's important that you understand the dispensations and the change in periods. You cannot directly quote a verse and ignore all other related passages. God does not revoke a promise, thus a true believer is eternally secure. If a person walks away from the faith, they were never a true believer. Hebrews 6 is a warning of not progressing, keeping the false doctrine of salvation by works and not faith, thus re crucifying Jesus and nullifying the fullness of His Grace.

I do believe in the I entire word of God I see no contradictions at all EXCEPT when you put up OSAS or hyper grace or CALV the we have conflict and major disagreements at one point I'll get well the bible isn't clear on all of it ???
Or I'll get "from theology reformed believers btw
That its just a paradox ??!
To me nothing is unclear and I'm 37 I've been reading the words of the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob since I was 7 I get exactly what it tells me and so does my 8 year old niece.

It's the same from the beginning to the end
Eve was tempted by the snake / satan to eat the apple / sin ,
God was clear then and through out the entire word to rev of you sin you will surely die!
Clear & simple rule
But what did the devil say,
No God is a lier and if you sin you will be like him and live forever / not die.

That has been said over and over and over and over and over again in the bible it's silly to think you can sin and it's ok '?
Sorry the theology is from the snake / satan

That's CALV he was sent by the Roman Catholics to take over Luthers rambunctious Christian followers to avoid any revolt against the Catholic Church " taxes collection" and redirect them
He did just that in Geneva he was called the Christian pope.
This is all in history books btw

The first time the devil attempted this was before the NT was written
it's clear I. Scripture that satan attempt to change The believes mind of what the word says clearly

Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. ([bless and do not curse]Jude&#8236; [bless and do not curse]1&#8236;:[bless and do not curse]3-4&#8236; KJV)


But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one:

And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,

But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money. Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God. Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee. ([bless and do not curse]Acts&#8236; [bless and do not curse]8&#8236;:[bless and do not curse]9, 18, 20-22&#8236; KJV)

But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.

I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. ([bless and do not curse]Revelation&#8236; [bless and do not curse]2&#8236;:[bless and do not curse]6, 9-10&#8236; KJV)


I know this all seems far fetched but it is what my studies have shown me
I hope you take this in good Cheer
Amen

 

[lori milne]

Masonic teachings as well
all back this up as well
Amen

They call it christianeese which is we have taken words and redefined the meanings incorrectly

 

[FreeGrace2]

I agree with every one of the verses in the bible

But your view is that a believer can lose their salvation in spite of the many verses that tell us that believers are sealed with the Holy Spirit as a guarantee or promise or pledge for the day of redemption. Eph 1;13,14, 4:30, 2 Cor 1:22, 5:5.

John 10:28,29 says that no one (meaning no person) can take the believer out of God's hand. Believers are persons, so Jesus' words refer to the believer him/her self.

One cannot hold to your view and claim to agree with every verse in the Bible.

And I know my sins are covered as well that he died and rose for all sins

Glad to read that you now accept that He died for all sins. But He didn't rise for any sins.

Romans 3:25 these are all past sins
It doesn't say un repented sins
And it doesn't say current or future.

I gave you a number of verses that clearly indicate that He died once for all sins. That's past, present and future sins.

 

[FreeGrace2]

This says don't continue in sin clearly As does Romans 3:25 clearly says past sins. God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that ARE PAST, through the forbearance of God Romans 6:9-13,15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid
This was to free grace

I responded to your view of "past sins" in post #556 with verses that spoke of Christ dying for sins once for all. All sins have been paid for.

Here is my post #556 again:

Originally Posted by lori milne
Romans 3:25
Clearly says past sins
Show me differently

OK, I did, and I'll do it again.

Rom 3:25 - whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed;

This verse speaks of the fact that God has delayed dealing sin, but not that bypassing equates to justification. God's "forbearance", connected witht he phrase "passed over" in light of Paul's use of "forebearance" elsewhere (Rom 4:2), refers to a period of time before the cross when God did not punish men commensurate with their sins but exercises grace until Christ paid the penalty. This does not mean God did not forgive sins in the OT. He did, but tremporarily postponed the full payment of them until Christ's death on the cross.

iow, the OT animal sacrifice didn't actually atone for sin, but was a shadow of when Christ came and actually did atone for sin.

This verse is NOT about covering sins committed before we believed in Christ.

Further, the rest of Rom 3 drives home the point that the believer is JUSTIFIED by faith. Nothing about a partial justification, as your view indicates in the idea of "past sins".

If Christ only died for "past sins", as being claimed, then He didn't die for all of them, which is NOT stated anywhere in Scripture. Your view is wholly unsubstantiated in Scripture.

Further, the Greek word for "once for all" found in Rom 6:10, Heb 7:27, 9:12 and 10:10 are about His death for sins.

ephapax
Thayer Definition:
1) once, at once
1a) all at once
1b) once for all

iow, He died ONE TIME for ALL SINS.

Rom 6:10 - For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God.

Heb 7:27 - 7who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the sins of the people, because this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.

Heb 9:12 - and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, He entered the holy place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.

Heb 10:10 - By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

I hope these verses will put to rest your errant view of "past sins".

Jesus Christ died once for all sins. Your view misunderstands Rom 3:25.