Recovery from the occult forum - an explanation

[CaDan]

I never claimed to be speaking for God, I am merely telling you what I see. BTW, I am not female, which is good since I would make a very ugly looking girl. My icon is clearly that of manliness. That is why I regret choosing this name, but it's toolate to change it. People read it as "Katrina" or something I reckon.

If you would like the blessings necessary for a name change, I have more than I know what to do with.

 

[pgp_protector]

That's not what I see when I read her blog.
I see a struggle between two sides & her caught in the middle.

 

[D'Ann]

Sylvanspirits is the same age. He knows what to do and say because he has the Spirit of God. Age is no excuse.

That one knows exactly what she is doing and whom she is doing it for. My only incision here is to provoke the attempt on her part to start convincing others she is acting in the will of God with these false judgments, because then the REAL deceptions can start flying and taking hold and destroying each and every one of those who deserve to be destroyed for embracing such things!

He is young. At one time, I was like him, but worse. It takes time for some of us to learn things.. and pray through things...

Leave him alone.

 

[BelindaP]

Katana, what are you qualifications for deciding what state of mind Moriah is in? Do you have a background in Deliverance? Do you know anything about the occult, save what Hollywood would tell you? I'm just wondering. As D'Ann said, you are young, but you seem to have awfully strong opinions on this.

 

[Sylvanspirits]

Katana, I would respectfully ask that you be more polite in your dealings with Moriah.

 

[D'Ann]

Sorry Katana... I actually did think your name was Katrina... my bad. I really need to really look at the names here.

Please though...

Can we all like... I don't know... be nice and wait to see what happens.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

I never claimed to be speaking for God, I am merely telling you what I see. BTW, I am not female, which is good since I would make a very ugly looking girl. My icon is clearly that of manliness. That is why I regret choosing this name, but it's toolate to change it. People read it as "Katrina" or something I reckon.

Well then you are clearly looking at something else NOT me.

Sorry about the "she" -- was not paying attention. I know how that can grate -- was not intentional.

 

[Macrina]

Albeit a bit hardboiled.

Well, a hardboiled egg is better than a deviled egg. I wouldn't want to have to start a thread about you.

 

[Sylvanspirits]

Can we all like... I don't know... be nice and wait to see what happens.

Agreed. We all need to cool down a bit.

 

[Auntie]

The operative word is competent, which includes having regular supervision

I have yet to find a Christian counselor that actually has regular supervision and most tend to think of accountability as a swearword. In my job, I am required to adhere to safe practice, and I will not engage with another professional who does not and run the risk of creating more problems that it fixes.

It also doesn't help in that real life Christians terrify me. Through out the process of PMs and regular diaologue in the Black sheep alliance, have gotten to the point when I can attend church on a semi regular basis without a major anxiety attack. In real life things are never that easy, however its much easier to say "She musnt want help, because she won t seek out real life help" as opposed to think well, perhaps shes in a really bad place

Its very clear you have your mind made up Auntie, and you know what i dont care.

No, Freitag, you are the one who has YOUR mind made up. You are convinced there is no real life help for you. And that is a crock. There is plenty of help out there. And I know, it's painful to seek it out. But you MUST seek it out. If I didn't care for you, believe me, I wouldn't bother to tell you this. There is MUCH help out there in the real world. Much help. But you have to be willing to put aside your fears and go for it. You have to want it so bad, that you are willling to do whatever it takes to receive the help you need.

I won't coddle you like some people are doing here. I am speaking the God's honest truth, and you know it.

 

[D'Ann]

Because to add further damage will not help him or you.

We all are still learning Moriah. We all are human trying to figure things out. We need to pray and pray and pray... and we don't know if he is really an abuser or someone who doesn't understand because he has never walked in your shoes and we should be grateful that he hasn't walked in your shoes.

Please... you are not helping either. Your posts have been somewhat hostile. I know that you are hurting and struggling... and going through things that I don't know very much about... but any hostility from them or me or you... is not good.

I want something good to come from this thread that will benefit and help you and others who are struggling with the same things that you are struggling with, but you are not helping with your posts. (sorry). I don't mean unkindness or disrespect, nor would I ever abuse you.

 

[BelindaP]

Moriah, I implore you to let us handle this discussion. It cannot be good for you.

 

[CaDan]

Well, a hardboiled egg is better than a deviled egg. I wouldn't want to have to start a thread about you.

*rimshot*

 

[Kristen.NewCreation]

Katana, I would respectfully ask that you be more polite in your dealings with Moriah.

I don't see any dealings in this thread as productive, as that is not the purpose of this thread as I read it. It was my understanding this thread was about a subforum... the particulars of who would need this subforum will change over time with changing issues related to this topic.

I think that there is a need for this type of subforum for the purpose of support, encouragement, and to be able to know that you're not alone on the journey of healing.

 

[Sylvanspirits]

I don't see any dealings in this thread as productive, as that is not the purpose of this thread as I read it. It was my understanding this thread was about a subforum... the particulars of who would need this subforum will change over time with changing issues related to this topic.

I think that there is a need for this type of subforum for the purpose of support, encouragement, and to be able to know that you're not alone on the journey of healing.

Granted, this thread is getting pretty bad.

 

[D'Ann]

*rimshot*

I love hardboiled... soft boiled, scrambled, over easy and devil eggs... they all are good eggs in my book.

What is rimshot?

 

[D'Ann]

nv... somehow, doubled posted. Haven't done that for awhile. LOL

 

[seashale76]

PSALM 34 (33)

I will bless the Lord at all times; His praise shall continually be in my mouth. My soul makes its boast in the Lord; let the afflicted hear and be glad. O magnify the Lord with me, and let us exalt His name together! I sought the Lord and He answered me, and delivered me from all my fears. Look to Him and be radiant, so your faces shall never be ashamed. The poor man cried, and the Lord heard him, and saved him out of all his troubles. The angel of the Lord encamps around those who fear Him, and delivers them. O taste and see that the Lord is good! Happy is the man who takes refuge in Him! O fear the Lord, you His saints, for those who fear Him have no want! The young lions suffer want and hunger; but those who seek the Lord lack no good thing. Come, O sons, listen to me; I will teach you the fear of the Lord. What man is there who desires life, and covets many days, that he may enjoy good? Keep your tongue from evil, and your lips from speaking deceit. Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace, and pursue it. The eyes of the Lord are toward the righteous, and His ears toward their cry. The face of the Lord is against evildoers, to cut off the remembrance of them from the earth. When the righteous cry for help, the Lord hears and delivers them out of all their troubles. The Lord is near to the brokenhearted, and saves the crushed in spirit. Many are the afflictions of the righteous; but the Lord delivers him out of them all. He keeps all his bones; not one of them is broken. Evil shall slay the wicked; and those who hate the righteous will be condemned. The Lord redeems the life of His servants; none of those who take refuge in Him will be condemned.

 

[BelindaP]

Come to the forum, Moriah. There you can say what you need to say. Leave this thread, as it's not helping you.

 

[Sanctuaryandbliss]

Because to add further damage will not help him or you.

We all are still learning Moriah. We all are human trying to figure things out. We need to pray and pray and pray... and we don't know if he is really an abuser or someone who doesn't understand because he has never walked in your shoes and we should be grateful that he hasn't walked in your shoes.

Please... you are not helping either. Your posts have been somewhat hostile. I know that you are hurting and struggling... and going through things that I don't know very much about... but any hostility from them or me or you... is not good.

I want something good to come from this thread that will benefit and help you and others who are struggling with the same things that you are struggling with, but you are not helping with your posts. (sorry). I don't mean unkindness or disrespect, nor would I ever abuse you.

Well put.

Most of us dont mean any disrespect Moriah. A lot of people fear what they dont understand. enlighten us on your situation, but no need to be hostile.

There are people who care and want you to be free of this.

~Blessed Be.