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How can Mary hear my prayer at the same time she's listening to the prayer of another 5,000 miles away? She'd have to be omnipresent.
You know that God wishes for Mary to hear of prayers of people 5000 miles apart because of Apostolic Tradition. Where in Apostolic Tradition does it say this? The bad things happening after the football games....................that isn't what I was referring to. World wars and deaths aren't happening after every football game. When Mary says bad things will happen if people don't repent, it isn't anything Jesus hasn't already said. Jesus said the gate is narrow and few will enter.We know because of Apostolic tradition. And as far as the stuff after the apparitions I could point out bad things that happen after every Penn State game. Bad things happen alot.
But in some cases Mary actually says that if the world does not repent and turn to Christ there will be disasters. All she wants is for the world to be closer to her Son.
Hi David..I sorta got that impression too, since when this was said..quote: I haven't read this entire thread, so please excuse me if this question has already been asked. God is omnipresent........Mary isn't. How can Mary hear my prayer at the same time she's listening to the prayer of another 5,000 miles away? She'd have to be omnipresent.
You answered about God wishing it...pax...Kim
When Mary says bad things will happen if people don't repent, it isn't anything Jesus hasn't already said. Jesus said the gate is narrow and few will enter.
You know that God wishes for Mary to hear of prayers of people 5000 miles apart because of Apostolic Tradition. Where in Apostolic Tradition does it say this? .
World wars and deaths aren't happening after every football game.
Who and when did this praying to Mary start? What's the Apostolic Tradition here? I understand if the Apostles did it, then the RCC is following that tradition, but where can I find the Apostles praying to Mary? Obviously, she was still alive for some time, but after her death, when did those who succeeded the Apostles begin praying to Mary? And why?And in the church approved marain apparitions that is one of the things that is required, that she says nothing that goes against Christ.
Who and when did this praying to Mary start? What's the Apostolic Tradition here? I understand if the Apostles did it, then the RCC is following that tradition, but where can I find the Apostles praying to Mary? Obviously, she was still alive for some time, but after her death, when did those who succeeded the Apostles begin praying to Mary? And why?
she wants people to ask for the graces that SHE has........she wants everything that the Biblical God, imo, does not.....
simonthezealot vbmenu_register("postmenu_26957114", true); I AM saved and I understand that Christ being hung on the cross meant nothing unless he also arose.
simonthezealot vbmenu_register("postmenu_26957114", true); His death and resurrection
simonthezealot vbmenu_register("postmenu_26957114", true); Rather, the Resurrection is!
RaggedRobin said:Mat 22:29 And Jesus answering, said to them: You err, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God.
Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they shall neither marry nor be married, but shall be as the angels of God in heaven.
Mat 22:31 And concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read that which was spoken by God, saying to you:
Mat 22:32 I am the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.
Iollian said:Jesus was correcting the Sadducees, the Sadducees did not believe in angel, demon, resurrection or afterlife of any kind. I wonder why scripturecatholic does not mention that? Also note that He is comparing the not marrying with the angels, does not say people will be like angels in every aspect.
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the sight of the Son of God hanging from a cross is a stumbling block, a sign of offense. But to those of us who are being saved, it is the power of God, the wisdom of God, the love of God.
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And since His strength is made perfect in weakness, the crucifix is the still life caricature of the triumph of Holy love over selfish sin.
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Far from being the low point of Christs life and something to be brushed aside or forgotten, the crucifixion is the pinnacle of the Glory of God in Christ Jesus.
When St. Paul says "Death is at work in us....." Where does that "Death" come from ?, if Christ's death is not perpetual.
...so we take JESUS and cut Him in two !
You put His Death over there ...far away in history and you put
His "resurrection "on your chest and wear it like a medal of Honor !
if you read on in Romans 6: 5
"If we have been united with Him through a likeness to his death, so shall we be through a like resurrection."
Every whimp wants to be united to his resurrection, but only a few courageous want to be united to his death because they fail to grasp the very essence of the Christian faith.
(1Timothy 2:4-5-6) Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth
(1Ti 2:5) For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
(1Ti 2:6) Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
Who else can go to God for us? No one BUT CHRIST JESUS!
The first church dedicated to Mary was dedicated by St. James the Greater in Spain in 40 or 41 A.D.
Historical records show that many churches have stood on the same site since. So if a church was dedicated in her name it follows that veneration was a part of the apostles mindset.
Correct, Mary's not a mediator or savior. Of course no one ever said that she was. This is a classic strawman argument.
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