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Hey,
I am 100% new to these forums and not really sure where to start. To be honest i'm 100% new to religion as well. I grew up in a home where religion is looked down upon so i kinda have some skewed ideas of what it's all about. so i finally decided to look into what it's all about and i have actually felt good about what i've been seeing. But i do have a few questions so if anyone could help me out that would be perfect! (i hope i don't offend anyone!)
I'm reallllly confused with the division between christianity and catholic religion, does it have to mainly do with saints or different views of the bible?
Also I am kinda science oriented so i have troubles with the evolution debate, i do believe that evolution did occur but more so divine intervention. What are people's and the church's view on this?
my friend told me that the bible was written by several people under the influence of God at different times and in different areas in the world, is this true?
What's the difference between christian, presbaterian, gospal, etc?
Thank you so much in advance! Any help is appreciated!!!!!!:)
 

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Hey,
I am 100% new to these forums and not really sure where to start. To be honest i'm 100% new to religion as well. I grew up in a home where religion is looked down upon so i kinda have some skewed ideas of what it's all about. so i finally decided to look into what it's all about and i have actually felt good about what i've been seeing. But i do have a few questions so if anyone could help me out that would be perfect! (i hope i don't offend anyone!)
I'm reallllly confused with the division between christianity and catholic religion, does it have to mainly do with saints or different views of the bible?
Also I am kinda science oriented so i have troubles with the evolution debate, i do believe that evolution did occur but more so divine intervention. What are people's and the church's view on this?
my friend told me that the bible was written by several people under the influence of God at different times and in different areas in the world, is this true?
What's the difference between christian, presbaterian, gospal, etc?
Thank you so much in advance! Any help is appreciated!!!!!!:)
For the division between Christianity and Catholicism...

The founding people of Christianity believed that the practices of Catholicism were wrong. There were several incidents, the most infamous being the Catholic Church's selling of indulgences (free passage into heaven), that led to the division between both sides. After Luther broke apart from the Church and founded his own religion, Lutheranism, other people followed suit.

Presbyterianism, Baptists, Lutheranism, etc. etc., are all generally denominations of the Christianity that broke away from the Church. The difference between these denominations are often the practices and I believe the way they preach the Bible, but in most cases they are similar to each other.
 
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Hey,
I am 100% new to these forums and not really sure where to start. To be honest i'm 100% new to religion as well. I grew up in a home where religion is looked down upon so i kinda have some skewed ideas of what it's all about. so i finally decided to look into what it's all about and i have actually felt good about what i've been seeing. But i do have a few questions so if anyone could help me out that would be perfect! (i hope i don't offend anyone!)
I'm reallllly confused with the division between christianity and catholic religion, does it have to mainly do with saints or different views of the bible?
Also I am kinda science oriented so i have troubles with the evolution debate, i do believe that evolution did occur but more so divine intervention. What are people's and the church's view on this?
my friend told me that the bible was written by several people under the influence of God at different times and in different areas in the world, is this true?
What's the difference between christian, presbaterian, gospal, etc?
Thank you so much in advance! Any help is appreciated!!!!!!:)
Good for you wanting to learn. I will try and help.
1/ There are many areas of Christianity and Catholic belief that line up, much of the differences are man made. (It is not appropriate to go into them here as it may just start arguments over beliefs). Both beliefs came from the same beginnings, but there the differences begin.
2/ Evolution, in the truest sense of the word, continues today. Many creatures are changing and adapting (evolving) to new and different circumstances.
There is no proof of the "evolution" of a species changing from one to another, this is the evolutionary belief that causes arguments
3/ The Bible was written by 40 different authors in many different times under the guidance of Holy Spirit. The complete book of 66 writings all point from creation to the death on the cross and to the return of Jesus at the appropriate time.
Presbyterian is simply one of the names of a branch of the Christian Church, as are many others, (Pentecostal, Uniting, etc.)
Jessca, if you haven't already established a relationship with Jesus, you need to do so while there is still time.
I hope this helps you, if you have questions about this, not appropriate for the forum, please PM me.
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Hey,
I am 100% new to these forums and not really sure where to start. To be honest i'm 100% new to religion as well. I grew up in a home where religion is looked down upon so i kinda have some skewed ideas of what it's all about. so i finally decided to look into what it's all about and i have actually felt good about what i've been seeing. But i do have a few questions so if anyone could help me out that would be perfect! (i hope i don't offend anyone!)
I'm reallllly confused with the division between christianity and catholic religion, does it have to mainly do with saints or different views of the bible?

Hello, welcome to the forums, I'm new here as well :). It's very understandable how it could be confusing, there is much disagreement within Christianity and you will find people who call themselves Christians with entirely different outlooks on the world from each other.

First to answer the question on the differences in Catholics and Protestants, and let me start out by admitting I am a Protestant so my post will be from the Protestant side of the debate. We generally call Christians who aren't Catholics, Protestants -- although there are some exceptions, but Baptists, Presbyterians, Pentecostals, Lutherans, Puritans, etc are all considered "Protestants". The word "Protestant" comes from the Protestant Reformation which took place in the 16th century. We Protestants view the Reformation as a move back toward Biblical Christianity, the Christianity originally taught by Jesus and the apostles.

That's not to say that the Catholic church was always wrong, we agree with many of the early Catholic church fathers, but we believe that gradually errors in doctrine crept into the Catholic faith and it eventually reached the point to where the church needed reform.

The main idea behind the Reformation was that the Bible is authoritative in all matters of dispute. The Catholic Church teaches that popes, councils, and traditions are also authoritative. Protestants are not against tradition or councils unless it contradicts what the authors of the books of the Bible wrote, and we believe there is clear evidence that the Catholic Church has strayed from a Biblical understanding.

Some key disputes the Reformers had with the Catholic church were:

(1) Salvation by grace alone through faith alone. The Catholic Church teaches we are saved by both faith and good works, while the Reformers believed we can have no merit before God based on our own works. Jesus is the only one who lived a life worthy of heaven; everyone else deserves hell. That's why Jesus had to come and live a perfect life and die, so that we, who have nothing to offer God and have sinned wickedly against him, can be brought into his presence and receive a reward which we did not earn. Thus the Reformers taught we are not saved based on our own performance but on the performance of another, Jesus. It is because God is gracious with us that we can have eternal life.

(2) Christ is the only mediator. Catholics believe that priests are needed to act as mediators between God and man, while Protestants believe Jesus Christ is our high priest -- thus making him the only mediator between God and man. Protestants have pastors who preach but not priests who act as mediators. We do not need to have priests confess for us; we can confess straight to Jesus who is God.

(3) Glory to God alone. Protestants do not believe they should pray to saints or to Jesus' mother who was a human, but only that we should pray to God. We do not give praise to other humans as if they are worthy of glory and honor, although we do thank God for the people he uses to help us grow toward him. At the end of the day we realize God is ultimately the one from whom all good comes.

There are many other differences, but those are the major differences between Catholics and Protestants.

Also I am kinda science oriented so i have troubles with the evolution debate, i do believe that evolution did occur but more so divine intervention. What are people's and the church's view on this?

There are tons of different views on evolution. The Catholic Church officially supports evolution. There are disagreements among Protestants. Some Protestants believe in theistic evolution (that God guided evolution), some reject evolution -- although most who reject "macro-evolution" accept "micro-evolution", which is basically variation among "kinds" of animals. For instance, they would claim dogs probably evolved from wolves since those are easy-to-distinguish kinds of animals, while horses didn't evolve from rodents since they're very different kinds of animals. People have different interpretations of Genesis 1. Some believe the 6 days described in Genesis 1 are literal days, while some believe they're just metaphorical "days" representing thousands or millions of years. I, personally, do have a strong stance on the creation account. My suggestion to you would be to not worry about it right away; whether or not we evolved is not really what Christianity's all about, and it's distracting from the real message of Christianity to get too involved in that debate.

my friend told me that the bible was written by several people under the influence of God at different times and in different areas in the world, is this true?

Yes that's true. Job is generally considered the oldest book in the Bible, written around 1000 BC, give or take a few hundred years. The last book in the Bible written is generally believed to be Revelation, written around 90 AD. The author of the first 5 books (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy) is generally believed to have been Moses. The first 4 books of the New Testament (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) bear the names of the writers. Matthew and John were apostles (an apostle is someone who Jesus personally appointed to spread his message and be a leader of the early church). Mark and Luke were disciples of apostles. Most of the middle of the New Testament is letters written by Paul (an apostle) to different churches, which were saved by those churches. The end of the New Testament has some letters from the apostles Peter and John and a couple others.

We believe that the apostles, prophets of the Old Testament, and other writers were inspired by God to write what they wrote, although they did it in their own style of writing. The reason we believe the apostles can be trusted is because Jesus personally appointed them to spread his message and the prophets of the Old Testament were also personally appointed by God. There were some criteria the other writers had to meet to be included in the Bible (they had to have been approved by the writings of the apostles and had to have seen Jesus after he rose from the dead).

What's the difference between christian, presbaterian, gospal, etc?
A Christian simply put is someone who follows Christ. Presbyterians are one type of Protestant. Presbyterians generally agree with the teachings of John Calvin, one of the Reformers. Gospel means "good news" and is the term used for the message of Jesus: that Jesus died in the place of sinners to bring us to God (John 3:16, 1 Peter 3:18).

Any other questions? :D I hope you find this helpful! I encourage you to read the Bible yourself and see what it teaches. John is a good place to start; it is one of four books which tell the life of Jesus. Then Acts is the book right after John and it tells the lives of some of the apostles after Jesus' resurrection.

Feel free to message me anytime. Just so you know, I consider myself undecided between being a Presbyterian and a Baptist. The differences between the two are minor and I haven't been able to make up my mind yet which one I think is more Biblical.

"Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God" (1 Peter 3:18).
 
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Howdy! Welcome aboard and I'm glad you're giving Christianity an examination!

I'm reallllly confused with the division between christianity and catholic religion, does it have to mainly do with saints or different views of the bible?

That's a complex question. BTW...differentiating between Christians and Catholics is kind of a false difference. Catholics are Chrisitans (although there are some Protestant groups who don't think they are...and to be an equal opportunity offender, there are some Catholics who don't think Protestants are Chrisitans, either! :D ) because Catholics believe that salvation is only through the work of Jesus Christ. So the difference is actually between Catholic Christians and Protestant Christians. (And then there are Orthodox Christians...but that's something else altogether!)

The big difference between Catholic Christians and Protestant Chrisitans is between the views of how God saves people. (All of the other differences are either peripheral and aren't that important or they are based upon this one big difference.) Most Protestants see salvation as being by grace alone and through faith alone, and Catholics don't agree. I'd try to explain in further detail, but I'd be sure to mess up the Catholic explanation, so I'll let them explain their position.

Also I am kinda science oriented so i have troubles with the evolution debate, i do believe that evolution did occur but more so divine intervention. What are people's and the church's view on this?

This is kind of a peripheral issue. A lot of Chrisitans wouldn't agree with me here, but I think it sidetracks the discussion away from more important matters. Let's talk about salvation first.

my friend told me that the bible was written by several people under the influence of God at different times and in different areas in the world, is this true?

More or less. The Bible was written by more than forty authors from a wide variety of backgrounds, including kings, military leaders, fishermen, musicians, scholars, and shepherds. It was written over a period of about 1500 years, but it was all written essentialy in the Middle East, except for a few books written in southern Europe (around Greece).

A book I would recommend to you would be Evidence That Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell. It's not a difficult read, being designed for laypersons. It's actually the results of McDowell's investigations of the claims of Christianity when he was a college student in the '60s...and an atheist. He was certain that if he objectively looked at the evidence, that Christianity could be proved false. He wound up becoming so convinced by the evidence that he became a Christian. The book is basically his notes from that investigation. He examines the claims for the authenticity of the Bible, and the claims of Christ's deity.

Another, more detailed, book on the history of the Bible is A General Introduction to the Bible, by Norman Geisler and William Nix. This is a more scholarly book than Evidence, and in fact I think it's used as a freshman textbook at many Bible colleges, but it is still accessable to us laypeople!!

Here are some websites to consider...

CRI

Monergism


What's the difference between christian, presbaterian, gospal, etc?

A Christian, as I said, is someone who believes that a person can only 'get right with God' through the work of Jesus Christ. One of the beefs people have had with the latest change here at these forums is that the official policy is now that anybody who calls him/herself a Christian will be considered one...and that just isn't so.

'Presbyterian', to put it simply, is a Protestant denomination.

The 'gospel' is the good news of Jesus Christ...that we are all born sinners and stand in danger of God's judgment, but Jesus came to Earth to sacrifice Himself in our place. Here it is in a nutshell...

As it is written:
"There is no one righteous, not even one;
there is no one who understands,
no one who seeks God.
All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one."

Romans 3:10-12

for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Romans 3:23

Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned...

Romans 5:12

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord


Romans 6:23

But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Romans 5:8


That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. As the Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame." For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile--the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."

Romans 10:9-13



Thank you so much in advance! Any help is appreciated!!!!!!:)

My pleasure! Feel free to ask more questions!! Post them here or here (because you asked specifically about Presbyterians) or even ask me in a PM.
 
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I'm reallllly confused with the division between christianity and catholic religion, does it have to mainly do with saints or different views of the bible?
As others have said, Catholics are Christians. The Roman Catholic Church is far and away the biggest single denomination of Christians. There are many others - the Orthodox churches, The Anglican Communion, Presbyterians, Methodists, Baptists, ....

The differences between Catholic and protestant christians mostly concerns the role and organisation of the Church, and in the role of tradition in understanding the bible. Many of the supposed differences are more about different ways of talking about the the same thing - different language masks very similar actual understandings of many of the famous controversial issues, and both sides have been (and often still are) guilty of misunderstanding (and occasionally deliberately misrepresenting) the views of the other.


Also I am kinda science oriented so i have troubles with the evolution debate, i do believe that evolution did occur but more so divine intervention. What are people's and the church's view on this?
Many (most?) of the world's Christians don't have a problem with the theory of evolution. Genesis is about theology, the relationship between God, us, and creation, and so forth. It's not a science book.


my friend told me that the bible was written by several people under the influence of God at different times and in different areas in the world, is this true?
Pretty much.
 
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Hi Jessca,

You have asked and shall receive answers. Now, the opinions that Christians have are varied, but here is my two cents worth...

Hey,
I am 100% new to these forums and not really sure where to start. To be honest i'm 100% new to religion as well. I grew up in a home where religion is looked down upon so i kinda have some skewed ideas of what it's all about. so i finally decided to look into what it's all about and i have actually felt good about what i've been seeing. But i do have a few questions so if anyone could help me out that would be perfect! (i hope i don't offend anyone!)

I'm reallllly confused with the division between christianity and catholic religion, does it have to mainly do with saints or different views of the bible?

-It has to do with history, Rome-England and the start of the protestant church, which is the way that you and I have an English bible to study today.

-But there are many differences between what the Catholic church follows and what other denominations follow. Some have creeds and others rely on the bible strictly.

-As for the different doctrine...Catholics believe Mary was a Deity,

-some worship her, some pray to her, some say that she is an intercessor.

-The other churches do not, but insists on her holiness (rightfully so) but she is still human and not an intercessor. Christ and His Spirit is the intercessor.

-Catholics believe that they are to confess their sin to a human intercessor, while most others do not. Go directly to God.

-Some Catholics pray to Saints...people passed on...

-the other churches do not.


-Catholics teach on Purgatory, the others do not.

-Catholics baptize babies, who have no idea what is going on...other churches usually do not.

-I was a Catholic for decades....not anymore mind you.

Catholic church that I have been to is tradition of man, and actually quite boring. Anyway, I was in the denomination, went to school under it, and have an opinion...sorry to run off a little.


Many church denominations believe that the antiChrist will come from the Roman Catholic Church through the Pope, although I do not.....many, many do.


Also I am kinda science oriented so i have troubles with the evolution debate, i do believe that evolution did occur but more so divine intervention. What are people's and the church's view on this?

They are mixed views. Some are literal creationists, saying that the earth was created with the universe, 6000 years ago...

I totally deny that.

As for evolution...a cat is a cat....even 1000's of years ago...

and I do believe in the Dinosaur age....and a very old earth....but I strictly believe that God only made us humans flesh beings a little while ago....8000 years ago...or so...

but as for the dino's..they were flesh 100's of millions of years ago...

IMO- many people think Christians are off their rocker when they say/teach that the earth is only 6000 years old.

The bible does NOT declare that at all. It does declare(through brain power) that Adam and Eve lived app. 6000 years ago, and mankind before that even...


my friend told me that the bible was written by several people under the influence of God at different times and in different areas in the world, is this true?

Basically. Yes.

What's the difference between christian, presbaterian, gospal, etc?

Most will have a 'cannon' or 'wiki' on what makes up their denomination. There are so many with so many varying beliefs.


I will say that most of the MILK of the Word of God, is shared...that being Jesus and redemption of sin, and the crucifixion and the resurrection, and the promises of eternal life for true believers...

this is all MILK, something a first year student would know...


but it is the MEAT on which the denom's are divided.

It is the same MEAT which is the so called revelation of the Word of God. Here on this forum, and at most that I have visited, most people presume that they have the real truth, and that their view is the proper correct one.

there are a few seekers, those that are willing to learn...and prove scripture against doctrine...

but as a general rule, you will probably ask 10 different people a question and get 11 different answers. lol

simply google search the different denom's and you will see what each believes.

Thank you so much in advance! Any help is appreciated!!!!!!:)

anytime....:thumbsup:

PM (private message) me if you wish!!! Anytime.;)

in His service :amen:
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I'm reallllly confused with the division between christianity and catholic religion, does it have to mainly do with saints or different views of the bible?

There are many differences between Christianity and Roman Catholicism.

The first and foremost being that we believe that the Bible is the final authority in matters of doctrine and practice, and they believe that their traditions are the authority.

One of the big differences can best be summed up in a prayer by "St." Thomas of Villanova:

O Mary, we poor sinners know no other refuge but thee, for thou art our only hope, and on thee do we rely for our salvation.

It's a prayer said everyday by Roman Catholics around the world but is it Biblical?

No. In fact, the fact that they regard Mary as their "only hope" of salvation and not Jesus shows us that it is not Christian.

Of course that's going to stir up trouble but how can anyone say that they're Christians when they are relying on someone other than Jesus Christ for their salvation?

Christianity understands that there is no other name under Heaven or on Earth by which men may be saved than Jesus Christ, not Mary.

What are people's and the church's view on this?
my friend told me that the bible was written by several people under the influence of God at different times and in different areas in the world, is this true?

The Bible teaches against evolution.

What's the difference between christian, presbaterian, gospal, etc?

Christian refers to a follower of the religion founded by Jesus Christ.

Presbyterian is a denomination within Christianity.

The Gospel is the Biblical teaching that man is sinful and in need of a Savior, and God's provision of that Savior in the person and atoning work of Jesus Christ on the cross.
 
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Thanks so much for all of your answers :) they've really helped me understand some of my questions. I think my next step is going to be to set up a meeting with a Pastor and get my hands on a Bible.
Thanks again :)

If you are serious about checking all of this out, I'd like to recommend the Thompson Chain Reference Bible in the New International Version. It's a great study Bible that, IMHO, is the least skewed toward any particular theological bent. It was the first study Bible I bought 25 yearsa go, and I've seen many since then but none beat it. (Although some come close.)
 
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The catholic religion versus the protestant is that there are extra books in the catholic bible that the protestants don't recognize. Protestants don't consider them inspired. If you compare these extra books with the rest of the bible it isn't consistent. For one example out of many, the view of purgatory was defined by the Council of Florence in 1439 and officially defended by the Council of Trent in the late 16th century. The New Catholic Encyclopedia readily acknowledges "the doctrine of Purgatory is not explicitly in the Bible. Therefore, its a tradition more than what the Bible actually says.

A couple more examples is praying for the dead. This is in Maccabees 12:45-46 but it is direct opposition to Luke 16:25,26 and Hebrews 9:27. It contains the episode where God is assisting Jusith in a lie, Judith 9:10,13. (God can't lie - He is Holy!)

Also, I'm a scientist and I strongly recommend www.reasons.org website. The only evolution that isn't scientifically realistic is darwinism. Microevolution is true and some macroevolution. I will try to get back with you on another site that is very informative.

The differences in denominations is traditional many times. The cause? Sometimes people don't know the difference between human reasoning and the Holy Spirit. How can you tell the difference? The Bible - this is what is eternal everything else is just temporal. If you want to know the bible how it came about - I would read Evidence that Demands A Verdict by Josh McDowell (it would stand up in a court of law). Its the most true book in the world and could only be written by a God using not perfect men.
 
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Thanks so much for all of your answers :) they've really helped me understand some of my questions. I think my next step is going to be to set up a meeting with a Pastor and get my hands on a Bible.
Thanks again :)

Cool!

And don't be afraid to ask your pastor the tough questions, and even questions about his sermon. Most are overjoyed to explain and dialog further.
 
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Hey,
I am 100% new to these forums and not really sure where to start. To be honest i'm 100% new to religion as well. I grew up in a home where religion is looked down upon so i kinda have some skewed ideas of what it's all about. so i finally decided to look into what it's all about and i have actually felt good about what i've been seeing. But i do have a few questions so if anyone could help me out that would be perfect! (i hope i don't offend anyone!)
I'm reallllly confused with the division between christianity and catholic religion, does it have to mainly do with saints or different views of the bible?
Also I am kinda science oriented so i have troubles with the evolution debate, i do believe that evolution did occur but more so divine intervention. What are people's and the church's view on this?
my friend told me that the bible was written by several people under the influence of God at different times and in different areas in the world, is this true?
What's the difference between christian, presbaterian, gospal, etc?
Thank you so much in advance! Any help is appreciated!!!!!!:)
There are two important doctrines which seperates us.

1. Justification: This is how we are saved. Some denominations disagree with this. Catholics believe that Jesus died for the sins of the world ... BUT ... you still must do something to earn your way to heaven.

Lutherans believe that Jesus died for the sins of the world ... PERIOD. Nothing more is needed. As long as you have faith that he died for you, then you will inherit eternal life in heaven.

Others: Many other denominations tend to be mushy allowing you to believe whatever you want to. Some demand that you must "do" something keep your salvation, others teach that how you "act" can determine the fate of your salvation.

2. Sin and Sanctification: This is about who we are (sinful) and how we are cleansed from that sin. Catholics believe that your inability to stop sinning is what will keep you from heaven which is why they demand more repentance from you.

Lutherans believe that we are by nature sinful and unclean, we sin in thought, word and deed. By what we have done and what we have left undone. IOW: Lutherans acknowledge our sinful condition and believe that what Christ did was sufficient for us to be saved. We don't have to act a certain way, or punish ourselves for our most current sins by reciting the rosery or anything else. Faith alone is what we need to be forgiven.

Other denomination: Believe various things. Most main line denomination are quite liberal and allow you to believe what you would like. The largest Lutheran denomination is the ELCA, and they are very liberal as well while nearly all the other Lutheran denominations like the LCMS, ELS, WELS are nothing like the ELCA.

RE: Science and evolution
Many scientists are Christian. Evolution cannot be proven. A true scientist must be able to recreate their idea in order to prove that the science is true. This cannot be done with evolution. All we have is "micro-evolution" which is in effect, minor changes in animals and people to adapt to small changes in the envirnment.

I suggest doing more research on the subject. There are websites like ANSWERS IN GENESIS that are really good. I would first focus on your faith in Christ and find a solid church before getting side tracked on other issues. The devil likes to create diversions, so first focus on how you are saved and then go from there.

Hope this helps! :)
 
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I just wanted to add that Catholics and Lutherans practice confessing of their sins to pastors/priests. Most other denominations do not like this and many people have a bad attitude about it. But it is Biblical. It started in the Old Testament with the Levitical priests speaking on behalf of God the forgiveness of sins to the people as well as the prophets who called the people to repent. These prophets pronounced the forgiveness of sins. Jesus then pronounced forgiveness of sins as well as all the Apostles.

That is what the pastor does. He was called by God to give the good news that you are forgiven you sins. People may wish to come to the pastor privately to confess specific sins that are bothering them in order to receive from the Pastor healing words from the Gospel that forgives them all their sins.

Many people have troubled hearts, what better place to deal with them then your pastor who was called by God to help heal troubled hearts?
 
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It has been my understanding that "man" made religion and denominations. I believe in the Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. My faith has nothing to do with a label but everything to do with my destination. I love all my brothers and sisters. God created us as beautiful and simplistic...His family from and of Love. I find it more comforting to contemplate my purpose in the Kingdom of Heaven than to participate in the complicated competition of whose house of worship is the "One" true temple of God. I love God...my creator. I love my brother, Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and I am blessed with the presence of the Holy Spirit. I hope and pray for the salvation of ALL my brothers and sisters. The Truth is in the Word.
 
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