Reality TV idea

[Tomk80]

And you'll get the same answer we've always given. God doesn't come from anything. He is eternal and uncreated. But I think you already knew that; there'd be no suspense to that show. The atheists however, claim something for which the world is still awaiting an explanation.

In other words, you Make-Stuff-Up, and claim that as fact. No surprises there, indeed.

 

[Chesterton]

And for those of you worried about the atheists' fate, I'll let you know that the element of potential danger is only intended to get people to watch. I never said I'd actually let anyone get hurt. Like most reality shows mine would be scripted and some clever writers would be employed to come up with a way to save the hapless atheists at the very last moment.

 

[atomweaver]

And for those of you worried about the atheists' fate, I'll let you know that the element of potential danger is only intended to get people to watch. I never said I'd actually let anyone get hurt. Like most reality shows mine would be scripted and some clever writers would be employed to come up with a way to save the hapless atheists at the very last moment.

Yeah. This does nothing to obfuscate your violent attitude towards those who don't happen to share your views...

 

[Pwnzerfaust]

To make it exciting for TV, it needs some more drama, you know, some danger. So here's my idea: You get a rope and dangle some atheists over a pit of starving lions. You start slowing lowering them into the pit, and tell them you'll stop lowering as soon as they can explain how something can come from nothing.

It can't. Matter can, however, come from energy. And vice-versa.

 

[Split Rock]

And you'll get the same answer we've always given. God doesn't come from anything. He is eternal and uncreated. But I think you already knew that; there'd be no suspense to that show. The atheists however, claim something for which the world is still awaiting an explanation.

So your explanation is no explanation. What if your athesist was to respond similarly for the universe? That the universe is "eternal and uncreated?" I suppose you would continue to lower the rope, huh?

 

[Split Rock]

And for those of you worried about the atheists' fate, I'll let you know that the element of potential danger is only intended to get people to watch. I never said I'd actually let anyone get hurt. Like most reality shows mine would be scripted and some clever writers would be employed to come up with a way to save the hapless atheists at the very last moment.

You remind me of AV1611VET and his Christian idea that anyone who teaches evolution should be "tarred and feathered." When it was pointed out to him that this process can lead to terrible burns, he replied that he would tar and feather then in a nice way. He then changed it to "gluing and feathering," because he "only" wanted to humiliate them.

How very Christian of you both

 

[LewisWildermuth]

To make it exciting for TV, it needs some more drama, you know, some danger. So here's my idea: You get a rope and dangle some atheists over a pit of starving lions. You start slowing lowering them into the pit, and tell them you'll stop lowering as soon as they can explain how something can come from nothing.

Why would you have atheists try to explain a creationist concept?

The whole "something came from nothing" idea is creationist clap trap, not scientific or even atheistic.

And the whole feeding to the lions thing... For calling your self a Christian, you seem to have not bothered reading anything Christ ever said... Now go away and study the stuff Jesus said about how to behave before you embarrass yourself and your fellow Christians even further.

 

[Chesterton]

Wow, ya'll are actually serious about the lion stuff. I overestimated some of the intellects here. And the amount of class, too - just as with Mr. consul the insults start when your small bag of logical argument is empty. It was enjoyable for a while. How sad.

 

[Danyc]

And you'll get the same answer we've always given. God doesn't come from anything. He is eternal and uncreated. But I think you already knew that; there'd be no suspense to that show. The atheists however, claim something for which the world is still awaiting an explanation.

Atheists claim the universe was started with the Big bang, and that whatever was "before" (I put this in quotations because technically, time started with the big bang, meaning thee was no 'before' the big bang), was always there.

Atheists do not claim that something came from nothing. Give a quote from any atheist that says this. An educated one (preferably educated in science).

One question, if God has always been, then why is it impossible for the universe to just have always been?

 

[Danyc]

Wow, ya'll are actually serious about the lion stuff. I overestimated some of the intellects here.

They overestimated some of the Christians here.

You know, the ones they have always been told are caring, loving, and completely moral.

Then along comes Chesterton, who suggests a game show where atheists are dangled over a pit of lions, in response to a game show where creationists are subjected to rigorous education.

....Yeah.

 

[Chesterton]

Completely moral? The more moral we humans are the more we hate it. If we met a completely moral man, I'm sure we'd crucify him, as history shows.

But, maybe I was wrong. Perhaps an apology is in order. Please forgive my insensitivity. I failed to realize that being forced to be dangled over hungry lions was really a live issue for any of you. Perhaps some of your loved ones were involved in tragic safari or zoo-visit mishaps.

I know in an internet forum it can be hard to know exactly how to take a person's words. So I'll put a sorry face here so that you know I'm not at all being sarcastic, and not at all indicating that you are a bunch of thin-skinned, whiney, cry-babies who resort to pretending to be victims when they can't answer an argument. And may God forgive me for pretending to subject those make-believe atheists to being threatened by those make-believe lions for a make-believe TV show.

 

[Danyc]

Completely moral? The more moral we humans are the more we hate it. If we met a completely moral man, I'm sure we'd crucify him, as history shows.

You think we would crucify a completely moral man? Are you serious?

You would crucify a completely moral man? You would kill a man who had done nothing wrong?

Please, we aren't barbarians. You don't seem to have a lot of faith in humanity, or in yourself.

But, maybe I was wrong. Perhaps an apology is in order. Please forgive my insensitivity. I failed to realize that being forced to be dangled over hungry lions was really a live issue for any of you.

You're good at cute sarcasm, I'll give you that.

While I won't go Freudian on you and say that your conscious joking about atheists getting eaten by lions belies your hidden desire to see a nonbeliever gorged by a bloodthirsty cat (Daniel-minus-a-giving-a-crap-God style), I will note your tendency towards a more brutal analogy when the one you are responding to is much more civilized.

I know in an internet forum it can be hard to know exactly how to take a person's words. So I'll put a sorry face here so that you know I'm not at all being sarcastic, and not at all indicating that you are a bunch of thin-skinned, whiney, cry-babies who resort to pretending to be victims when they can't answer an argument.

This might have some merit if there were an argument to be answered that has not already been knocked flat.

 

[LewisWildermuth]

Completely moral? The more moral we humans are the more we hate it. If we met a completely moral man, I'm sure we'd crucify him, as history shows.

But, maybe I was wrong. Perhaps an apology is in order. Please forgive my insensitivity. I failed to realize that being forced to be dangled over hungry lions was really a live issue for any of you. Perhaps some of your loved ones were involved in tragic safari or zoo-visit mishaps.

I know in an internet forum it can be hard to know exactly how to take a person's words. So I'll put a sorry face here so that you know I'm not at all being sarcastic, and not at all indicating that you are a bunch of thin-skinned, whiney, cry-babies who resort to pretending to be victims when they can't answer an argument. And may God forgive me for pretending to subject those make-believe atheists to being threatened by those make-believe lions for a make-believe TV show.

So you reject all the stuff Jesus said about thinking about a sin being as bad as a sin and the stuff about how the things that flow out of a mans mouth show what is in the heart?

Have you even read anything Jesus said? If so, why do you spew hate out of your mouth, is your heart overflowing with that much hate? Why do you not try for one second to act as he says to?

Why are you here? Is it to undo any good witness that your fellow Christians are trying to give here? To harden the hearts of the atheists to hearing anything from us?

Please leave, we do not need any more help in showing that some Christians are bitter and angry, they already know that. Some of us are trying to show that some Christians are not just angry and bitter souls, and you are destroying our work.

 

[Skaloop]

Here we see how a "True Christian" follows the teachings of Jesus of Nazarath. Well done, sir!

Hey, I just thought of an alternative version of your show. You get a rope and dangle some creationist over a pit of starving lions. You start slowing lowering them into the pit, and tell them you'll stop lowering as soon as they can explain how God come from nothing.

And in the bonus round, they have to provide a usable definition of "kind."

 

[atomweaver]

Wow, ya'll are actually serious about the lion stuff. I overestimated some of the intellects here. And the amount of class, too - just as with Mr. consul the insults start when your small bag of logical argument is empty.

The logic is only as vacuous as the question posed deserves. Seriously... the old "something from nothing" canard? Talk about sad.

 

[m3th0dm4n]

Completely moral? The more moral we humans are the more we hate it. If we met a completely moral man, I'm sure we'd crucify him, as history shows.

But, maybe I was wrong. Perhaps an apology is in order. Please forgive my insensitivity. I failed to realize that being forced to be dangled over hungry lions was really a live issue for any of you. Perhaps some of your loved ones were involved in tragic safari or zoo-visit mishaps.

I know in an internet forum it can be hard to know exactly how to take a person's words. So I'll put a sorry face here so that you know I'm not at all being sarcastic, and not at all indicating that you are a bunch of thin-skinned, whiney, cry-babies who resort to pretending to be victims when they can't answer an argument. And may God forgive me for pretending to subject those make-believe atheists to being threatened by those make-believe lions for a make-believe TV show.

Only a zealot could pull off being that pretentious.

 

[Morrigu]

To make it exciting for TV, it needs some more drama, you know, some danger. So here's my idea: You get a rope and dangle some atheists over a pit of starving lions. You start slowing lowering them into the pit, and tell them you'll stop lowering as soon as they can explain how something can come from nothing.

You know what is worst? it does sound like Reality TV....

I agree that creationists could use some science lessons.

 

[Beccs]

To make it exciting for TV, it needs some more drama, you know, some danger. So here's my idea: You get a rope and dangle some atheists over a pit of starving lions. You start slowing lowering them into the pit, and tell them you'll stop lowering as soon as they can explain how something can come from nothing.

Torture and murder of atheists. What a good christian you are.

Tell me, have you ever actually read that book you make such a fuss about or do you just know selected passages that you twist for your own purposes?

 

[Tomk80]

People, aren't you guys making too much fuss about a joke? Really. It wasn't an actual funny, funny joke, but it was a joke nonetheless.

 

[silentbob]

To make it exciting for TV, it needs some more drama, you know, some danger. So here's my idea: You get a rope and dangle some atheists over a pit of starving lions. You start slowing lowering them into the pit, and tell them you'll stop lowering as soon as they can explain how something can come from nothing.

Psst. I know you did poorly in your science classes but there is a scientific law called "The Law of Conservation of Mass" which states that matter cannot be created nor destroyed. Pretty much saying that matter has always existed in one form or another.

Here is a good idea for a TV show...

Show Christian families what its really like to be discriminated against. Place them in a small town (about the size of a mid western City) that is run by an Atheist mayor and the general population is true atheist. The Christian family must wear a patch on their clothes that resembles a cross or a crucifix. This family must live in this town for 3-6 months while trying to find a job small and a home, and all mail must be from an inside source, unless it is medical (to prevent people from asking family members for money).

The business owners have the right to deny employment to the Christian husband or wife based on religious views, and if hired in they have every right to fire the christian employee for spouting off, meaning you have to keep your trap shut. The landlord will have the same rights.

The schools teach only science in the science room and all religious books are in the philosophy class labeled under "fiction", this includes Creationism (ID)

Here is the kicker. If they cant handle the 3-6 months, the family must come on TV and say "I am not better than an Atheist" or "Atheists are good people" depending on their circumstances.