Reality Rejection as result of Atheism

[Ophiolite]

If atoms in your brain make your thoughs why would you trust your atoms and my atoms in my brain not ? Do you value your atoms to be better in some way than mine or do you invoke something more than atoms are in your brain?

Have a read of these Wikipedia articles and see if they help you in any way:
Humour - Wikipedia
Irony - Wikipedia
Reductio ad absurdum - Wikipedia

 

[Belk]

It's not false , there is either randomness or no randomness , if you see third option let me know .
You deny to choose because you know on both ends it will end up with God which was what i trapped you in :3

That was not the question you asked though was it? The question you posed was between random and a designer. There are more then just those two options. It is entirely possible to have a non random universe without a designer.

 

[Cat Loaf You]

That was not the question you asked though was it? The question you posed was between random and a designer. There are more then just those two options. It is entirely possible to have a non random universe without a designer.

If it's not random universe then who or what caused/planned it to begin 5B year ago and not 6B year ago ?
If it's planned and not random when who or what planned it to be this way ?

 

[Belk]

If it's not random universe then who or what caused/planned it to begin 5B year ago and not 6B year ago ?
If it's planned and not random when who or what planned it to be this way ?

You do not appear to be responding to my point. You simply ask the same question over again. It is possible for our universe to exist without planning and without being random.

 

[bhsmte]

If it's not random universe then who or what caused/planned it to begin 5B year ago and not 6B year ago ?
If it's planned and not random when who or what planned it to be this way ?

Maybe our universe didn't need planning from any type of super natural entity.

Maybe our universe was developed by alien forces from another universe, that got bored with their own. Maybe it was a super natural entity, or maybe it wasn't.

I know it is comfy cozy for you to personally claim "God did it" and you are certainly entitled to believe as you will.

 

[Cat Loaf You]

Maybe our universe didn't need planning from any type of super natural entity.

Maybe our universe was developed by alien forces from another universe, that got bored with their own. Maybe it was a super natural entity, or maybe it wasn't.

I know it is comfy cozy for you to personally claim "God did it" and you are certainly entitled to believe as you will.

If you assume that there maybe a super natural etity then you can't be atheist , by saying you are one you claim that there can't be one so please decide finally :3

 

[bhsmte]

If you assume that there maybe a super natural etity then you can't be atheist , by saying you are one you claim that there can't be one so please decide finally :3

Stating a God could exist, does not mean I can not call myself an atheist, not even close.

I am an atheist towards the Christian God, which we have a basic definition of, from Christian theology. I can look at these characteristics Christianity places on this God and overlay them with well evidenced reality and make a personal determination whether I believe this God exists. When I do so, i conclude this God does not exist, because well evidenced reality, contradicts the basic description of this God.

Now, when it comes to a non personal God (the Deist type), who does not interact with human life in any way, I would call myself agnostic.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

My country is also not invited to watch the video.
OB

I've found this solution works for me:

Install the Opera browser and enable the free VPN (Menu->Settings->Privacy & Security). This allows you to select from several countries (or Europe, Americas, & Asia - it varies) as the virtual location. Then you can browse to the relevant link as if from that location.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

If you should raise this Boltzman Brain concept in a future thread you will need to consider justifying the following bald assertion:

In short there his much greater probability for boltzman brain than big bang , if you believe in big bang you must believe in boltzman brains .​

OB

Clearly, if the probability of the big bang is unknown, the statement is vacuous without further explanation.

The Boltzman brain hypothesis isn't falsifiable, and rests on the idea that however improbable something may be, if it's possible it will happen given enough time, and an infinite number of times given infinite time. It's about as useful as the 'brain in a jar' or 'simulation' hypotheses.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Scientist, why can't you say: "God did it."???

Because, as it stands, it's not an explanation, it's not even an hypothesis, it's just a claim for which there is no demonstrable evidence.

It's not a scientific hypothesis because it's ill-defined, has no explanatory power, no predictive power, no scope, it isn't testable, and is not parsimonious because it introduces an ill-defined, inexplicable agency, which itself raises more questions than it answers.

You can't explain the unexplained with the inexplicable.

 

[Larniavc]

You should check out Boltzmann Brain
Boltzmann brain - Wikipedia

In short there his much greater probability for boltzman brain than big bang , if you believe in big bang you must believe in boltzman brains . According to that you are just mess of atoms who randomly formed into some kind of brain in some space and you become concious 1s ago with memory of your whole life and you will die 1s later and you really don't exist but just happend for atoms to line up so they make you think you do .

Depends what interpretation of QM you use.

So it’s probably wrong and even if it’s right it does not mean we do not exist.

 

[Cat Loaf You]

Depends what interpretation of QM you use.

So it’s probably wrong and even if it’s right it does not mean we do not exist.

There is no probably you are not consistent with your world view . It is or it is not decide alredy because you become boring .

Is big bang random or is it planned .

 

[Larniavc]

if you see third option let me know .

Some randomness.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

There is no probably you are not consistent with your world view . It is or it is not decide alredy because you become boring .

That's incoherent.

Is big bang random or is it planned .

False dichotomy. 'Planned' is not the general contrary. You could have non-random, deterministic, or stochastic (probabilistic).

 

[Cat Loaf You]

That's incoherent.

False dichotomy. 'Planned' is not the general contrary. You could have non-random, deterministic, or stochastic (probabilistic).

Ok then since you assume so , what about our universe , is it eternal or did it have beginning ?

 

[Cat Loaf You]

Some randomness.

What is "some" is it 30% or 50% ? Is it random or not random can you make up your mind ?

 

[Larniavc]

I've found this solution works for me:

Install the Opera browser and enable the free VPN (Menu->Settings->Privacy & Security). This allows you to select from several countries (or Europe, Americas, & Asia - it varies) as the virtual location. Then you can browse to the relevant link as if from that location.

Funnily enough I was only just wondering about a no hassle way of doing that.

Cheers!

 

[Larniavc]

What is "some" is it 30% or 50% ? Is it random or not random can you make up your mind ?

50% random.

 

[Larniavc]

There is no probably you are not consistent with your world view . It is or it is not decide alredy because you become boring .

Is big bang random or is it planned .

Not planned and not random.

Check mate.

 

[Cat Loaf You]

Not planned and not random.

Check mate.

Can't be both you literally said nonsense , i will ignore further posts because you are just trolling .