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The nearest one being our own Sun -- approximately 93 million miles away.
There you have it folks, the HI Theory in five words. And we still have no idea if it's an elaborate Family fang style prank from the author of Poe's Law, or if there is someone out there in the real world who is ignorant and arrogant enough to proclaim the sun is not a star.That is not a star.
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Nope, you don't get to make stuff up!
I almost fell off my chair when I read this.
Or it's the best Poe ever.I almost fell off my chair when I read this.
I find you get this type of response from individuals who are so totally out of their depth, they need to create the impression of comprehension oblivious of the unintentional humour that is created.
That is not a star. You can call it a star all you like, and fit it into your idea of the universe, where stars are suns. You cannot do that with authority or knowledge though. So let's not play with words. In the bible a star was not the sun. In science, using beliefs about time existing the same and such, they have concluded that stars are huge. But if distances are not known, then sizes are sure not known. Correct?
Not according to the Almighty. Since you have NO clue about time or time and space in the far universe, you have no ability to know. Your comments are religious opinion with severe bias, and no worth.This is the Sun, dad.
Excellent that you know this, so prove it? Show us how time exists with space exactly as time exists here in the fishbowl? Ha. Busted ye be.Space and time is everywhere in the universe..
Wrong. It is believed time exists in the unknown space of the far universe, and distances in your religious dreams are based on believing it does. What a silly little godless scam.I would repeat yet again the science that establishes that stars are 1 AU to 4 light years to millions to billions of light years away from our solar system.
According to the Scripture Jesus verified was true.According to you -- not God.
The fact is that life in the fishbowl is well explored and known. Time differences in the fishbowl simply are not an issue of relevance in this thread. You need to show that fishbowl time zones extend to infinity. Otherwise, confine your little speculations to man and his little world.But you don't know that -- and that's the point, isn't it? You and your computer monitor exist in two different spaces, and, as far as you know, two different times.
No one cares what people feel certain about or believe here, now do they? The issue is what can be evidenced and proven and known, and demonstrated as true. You do not know what time is, let alone exactly what is is like in deep space, face it. Because of that your weird models and fables about universe origins are garbage. Really.Why don't you answer the first question before going off on others.... can you be sure of anything as far as your own kitchen? If so, how?
But you claim to be able to see out of the fishbowl, do you not?
Be honest, I have simply asked the question if we know that they are! I did not claim it to be a specific way. In other words for the God damned fables of false science to be valid, they would need to know. They don't. That invalidates their fables.You can see the stars which, according to you, do not exist in the same space and time as we do.
In other words if there was no time at all, or if what time did exist out there was very different than time as we know it. If there were, for example 'less' time in the space and time mix, then it would take less time for anything to happen! So, instead of taking a billion years, maybe it would take, say, four minutes...or whatever...different. You don't know. You look at time on earth and then assume it is the same. Why??Leaving aside your cheap personal shots your comment makes no grammatical or logical sense ("if time exited in a different way"), but is a crystal clear example of a strawman argument at work.
If you used an article from wiki on time you were bound to fail. May as well ask some kid at a lemonade stand on the highway.I answered your question on the basis of the Wikipedia links that you provided for light cones and events.
Neither makes any references to the Bible, nor can an event occur without time.
Also you have no idea of what I think about time.
What will we find in the article exactly that relates to something discussed here? Spit it out.Try going back to your link on light cones and reading it carefully. The penny might drop.
I can think for myself. Try claiming people openly declare what they actually do declare.Amazing, openly declaring you cannot think for yourself but telling me to think out of the box.
Fishbowl?? I usually go with a rough estimate of the fishbowl as about the size of the solar syatem. However, if you show proof it is bigger, we can tweak that. The fishbowl simply is a figure of speach meant to denote the limits of man's realm.You can get on your high horse and make pontifications despite being clueless about the size of your fishbowl.
No worries. The bible has clues, so we do not need to rely on science making stuff up.Why hasn't God provided you with this information and what happens if the fishbowl is infinitely large.
Now that would be very embarrassing.
Cute. Period of time!!!?? Ha. Since you have no idea what time is like, or if it exists in the far universe no period of time can be used. This is so easy.The best for last.
The event horizon is the maximum distance where light reaches the observer IN A FINITE PERIOD OF TIME.
False! I just know what science means when they use that term, to sort of mean the extent we can see in the observed universe. Though they can see far, they cannot see time! Therefore, praytell, how can you say time exists as far as we see??Since you have admitted the horizon extends beyond the fishbowl means that time extends to the horizon as well.
False! I just know what science means when they use that term, to sort of mean the extent we can see in the observed universe. Though they can see far, they cannot see time! Therefore, praytell, how can you say time exists as far as we see??
The fact is that life in the fishbowl is well explored and known.
Stop quoting God if you don't believe in Him.Stop violating that unofficial commandment "Thou shalt not lie"
If you were astute enough you would realize that it is a fishbowl event, based on physics of the fishbowl, and only projected onto the universe by imagination and faith alone.Your understanding of science is zero as exemplified that you still don't get it about light cones.
If you were astute enough you would realize from the Wiki article a light cone is a mathematical representation of an event.
For you to think there were cones anywhere but your head shows the level you operate at.For you to ridiculously assert that light cones need to be seen indicates the level you operate at.
The concept of combining time with space is a convenient exercise in belief based thinking. The idea is no better than the idea of combining time as some imaginary dimension or whatever idiocy they claim. Fine as long as you do NOT talk about the far corners of creation.Your problem is you know nothing about the language of mathematics and attempt to make a literal interpretation of a mathematical concept.
Show the basis then? Get off the high horse.You read an article stating that Minkowski space uses an imaginary time axis and therefore conclude it has been conjured up in someone's mind yet the time axis is based on mathematical imaginary numbers.
Tell us if the event horizon is in the solar system? Do you have any clue what you are talking about?? There IS NO event horizon in reality, that is just religious rot and fishbowl philosophy projected onto the universe and some lie about how it was created. Pure pure pure uncut belief based rubbish.If you actually understood the meaning of the term "event horizon" you would never have stated it extends beyond your fishbowl knowing very well it would completely destroy your argument.
As far as man has gone or had probe go...that still had reliable properly intered data transmitted.But you can't tell us how big your fishbowl is.
Tell us if the event horizon is in the solar system? Do you have any clue what you are talking about?? There IS NO event horizon in reality, that is just religious rot and fishbowl philosophy projected onto the universe and some lie about how it was created. Pure pure pure uncut belief based rubbish.
As far as man has gone or had probe go...that still had reliable properly intered data transmitted.
Stop quoting God if you don't believe in Him.
Nope, you don't get to make stuff up.
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