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Real time or evo time?

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Yet, old earth models work. That's why all those exploration and mining companies use old earth models.
Yet they have almost zero to do with actual time. What works is the patterns that are somewhat predictable. How the layers actually got laid down and when is not known.
 
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Yet they have almost zero to do with actual time. What works is the patterns that are somewhat predictable. How the layers actually got laid down and when is not known.

But they use an old Earth model to predict where those layers are... and the model works.
 
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But they use an old Earth model to predict where those layers are... and the model works.
No, they sure do not. Show us how the time is needed? The time is basically arbitrary.
I mean basically they say something like 'oil tends to be found in a certain layer, which happens to be in a certain depth, and the pattern of layers is known, so when we find certain layers, we suspect oil could be there also'

What difference does it make whether the layer is actually 4400 years old or millions of years?
 
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. It is only your faith that says God's real record of creation is a lie or not real. You merely seek to monopolize the word reality to conform to and be limited to your little godless flaky fantasies.

No, it is reality.

You know, the stuff that actually exists.
 
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What hypocritical foolishness. If you claim there was DNA for Adam's day prove it.

Why do you think that this is a good argument? You demanding proof for the opposite of your claim is not in any way evidence supporting your claim.
 
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No, they sure do not. Show us how the time is needed? The time is basically arbitrary.
I mean basically they say something like 'oil tends to be found in a certain layer, which happens to be in a certain depth, and the pattern of layers is known, so when we find certain layers, we suspect oil could be there also'

What difference does it make whether the layer is actually 4400 years old or millions of years?

But you concede that their model works. Yours doesn't.
 
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No, it is reality.

You know, the stuff that actually exists.
All we see existing here is a gross and flagrant abuse of the English language by your attempted molestation of the word reality....again.
 
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But you concede that their model works. Yours doesn't.
False. The pattern discerned in layers works. Nothing works at all about their fantasies of associated time. That you would need to support with real substantive evidence.
 
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False. The pattern discerned in layers works. Nothing works at all about their fantasies of associated time. That you would need to support with real substantive evidence.

They have a working model. You do not.
 
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Not one that involves time. They work the patterns, and the fantasy time they try to associate with the layers is garbage.

Nevertheless, they have a model that gets results, and you don't.
 
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Nevertheless, they have a model that gets results, and you don't.
No, they don't. They deduce patterns. The issue is how and why. The how and why the clueless geo jokers fantasize about is a lying fable. Baseless. Fiction. Unprovable. Ridiculous. Anti Bible in timing.

The only thing that works is looking at the patterns and that includes the patterns of isotopes. Remember that one need not use the same state past religion to interpret the ratios.

If I did do that I might get a layer dated 'millions' of years old. The same layer in the same place dated without the same state past beliefset could be dated thousands of years. Either way the oil is expected there!
 
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No, they don't. They deduce patterns. The issue is how and why. The how and why the clueless geo jokers fantasize about is a lying fable. Baseless. Fiction. Unprovable. Ridiculous. Anti Bible in timing.

The only thing that works is looking at the patterns and that includes the patterns of isotopes. Remember that one need not use the same state past religion to interpret the ratios.

If I did do that I might get a layer dated 'millions' of years old. The same layer in the same place dated without the same state past beliefset could be dated thousands of years. Either way the oil is expected there!

They make progress; you make excuses.
 
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They make progress; you make excuses.
They have baseless beliefs of imaginary time associated with actual layer and isotope patterns and you swallow whole...willingly..wholeheartedly. For the kids who were forcefed blindly, I can forgive the darkness. For those who enter it with open eyes, I get angry.
 
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They have baseless beliefs of imaginary time associated with actual layer and isotope patterns and you swallow whole...willingly..wholeheartedly. For the kids who were forcefed blindly, I can forgive the darkness. For those who enter it with open eyes, I get angry.
I sense an anger that is unique to being angry with oneself. Must be a terrible way to live.
 
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