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That's the point. The Bible-burning Christian evolutionist doesn't exist on this forum except in the hearts and minds of creationists. Sigh.

And since the movement needs an enemy, it's necessary to manufacture one.
I'm having a difficult time finding a hardcore YEC debating against something a TE and/or scientist actually said.
 
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[RANT]This is in response to those who would call TE's "so called Christians" or any other synonym to that supposed insult. What was it that Jesus spent so much time preaching about? Was it not the legalism of the Pharisees that so occupied the teachings and preachings of our Lord and Savior.

What is the story of our past? Do we not see that God brought the heavens and the earth into being. What do we see in Genesis no less? People soon used their ability to choose to distance themselves from God (Garden of Eden), people used their abilities to build cities and rely upon each other (Tower of Babel), and the they set up legalistic hierarchies to determine who was closer to God (The Pharisees), who was in and who was out. Do we not see this same behavior among Christians in our midst?


Why must we draw lines and say that only those who read Genesis literally are part of the in crowd? Is this not the Garden of Eden and the lesson of the Pharisees repeated all over? Why can some not learn to comprehend what the Bible actually teaches instead of simply reading the words?

Thankfully, we all know that God so much wanted to restore that relationship that he himself became incarnate in the life of Jesus to experience our humanity, preach anew God's vision, and to be killed by those who wanted to protect the status quo. If only some in our midst would understand that message! [/RANT]
 
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Critias said:
No, you didn't. That is why I asked. Why would I excuse any Christian who thinks it is healthy to attack fellow Christians with name calling and insults? I would not.



No, I don't. Because some creationists are immature Christians and let their passion for their beliefs become intangled with their past behavior that they were so used to.

I have witnessed many of the TEs in this forum actively pursuing to insult, berate, lie, and commit personal attacks on creationists for their belief. They take stands with atheists in these activities.

These are TEs who have been at this forum for several years, claiming to be mature Christians. They act as if they love to batter other Christians.

Lady Kate calls it damage control. Seebs and Gluady's call creationists the most dangerous sect to Christianity. Forget those who deny Jesus Christ as God and who lead others to this belief, creationists who accept Jesus Christ as God are worst.

Statements like these say a lot about the state of the Church. To say that teaching Jesus Christ is not God is better than teaching against evolution is foolishness. To go out an spend your time to destroy those who accept Jesus Christ as the the Living God because you don't like the fact they believe a six day creation taught in the Bible, is foolishness. And then turn the other cheek and say those who teach against Jesus being the Living God aren't as harmful as those who believe a six day creation; What has happened to the Church?

The mockery of Christianity, the TEs aid to build. For it is the TEs who help keep the mocking going instead of standing against it. And if one, two or a more creationists are being foolish and doing the same thing, TEs, like you, will dismiss your own actions of fellow TEs as no big deal. It is wrong that any creationist goes out and mocks, lies, berates, or personally attacks ANYONE.

It is truely sad how we all love to justify our own sinful nature and fuel its fire.

I want to remind you that anyone who is not a theisitic evolutionist on this forum is a guest here. You are welcome to share your views, ask questions and otherwise ingage the regulars on here but this is not a debate forum. TEs are not aloud to make argumentative posts on the Creationist forum and Creationists are not allowed to argue here.

In case you missed it I am a moderator on here and I won't tolerate this kind of debate in this forum. Civil question and answer exchanges between TEs and Creationists are certainly allowed but this in an argument, not a fellowship post. If you want to challenge TEs to a debate then there is a common area for that. This is not an official warning of any kind, just a word to the wise. TEs are allowed to post here without this kind of criticism.

There are other places for this kind of criticism but this particular forum is not the appropriate place. If I see this again I will have no choice but to have the post removed or edited.

Feel free to PM me with any questions or concerns.

Grace and peace,
Mark
 
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