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I invite my fellow Anglicans as well as my learned Orthodox friend @The Liturgist to share their experiences, knowledge, and or reactions to the subject of this thread.

As you may recall, a couple of years ago I relocated resulting in a change from attending an Anglo-Catholic Episcopal parish with high churchmanship which was my entry point into Anglicanism. Now things are quite different. My new parish has lower churchmanship probably best defined as broad church and is decidedly not Anglo-Catholic. There has been much for me to adjust to, but especially now I'm curious about a local practice of celebrating the second Sunday of Easter as "Holy Humor Sunday." This is totally new to me, so I ask is this a thing, a local anomaly, a practice elsewhere in the church, a re-emerging trend, a historical practice lost in antiquity? I am trying to learn about it and sort out my own reactions to it as an admittedly rather stuffy high church Anglo-Catholic.

This explanation from Sunday's bulletin:
For centuries in Easter Orthodox, Catholic, and Protestant countries, the week following Easter Sunday, including "Bright Sunday" (the second Sunday after Easter), was observed by the faithful as 'days of joy and laughter" with parties and picnics to celebrate Jesus' resurrection. Priests would deliberately include amusing stories and jokes in their sermon in an attempt to make the faithful laugh. Churchgoers and pastors played practical jokes on each other, drenched each other with water, told jokes, sang and danced. It was their way of celebrating the resurrection of Christ - the supreme joke God played on Satan by raising Jesus from the dead. Early church theologians (like Augustine, Gregory of Nyssa, and John Chrysostom) mused that God played a practical joke on the devil by raising Jesus from the dead. "Risus Paschalis - The Easter Laugh," the early theologians called it. The observance of Risus Paschalis was officially outlawed by Pope Clement X in the 17th century. While it's unclear why the tradition faded in Orthodox & Protestant traditions, it has experienced a bit of a revival. In 1988, the Fellowship of Merry Christians began encouraging churches to resurrect this tradition to celebrate the grace and mercy of God through the gift of laughter and joy.
What is your experience, knowledge, and/or reaction? It is all new to me.
 

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I invite my fellow Anglicans as well as my learned Orthodox friend @The Liturgist to share their experiences, knowledge, and or reactions to the subject of this thread.

As you may recall, a couple of years ago I relocated resulting in a change from attending an Anglo-Catholic Episcopal parish with high churchmanship which was my entry point into Anglicanism. Now things are quite different. My new parish has lower churchmanship probably best defined as broad church and is decidedly not Anglo-Catholic. There has been much for me to adjust to, but especially now I'm curious about a local practice of celebrating the second Sunday of Easter as "Holy Humor Sunday." This is totally new to me, so I ask is this a thing, a local anomaly, a practice elsewhere in the church, a re-emerging trend, a historical practice lost in antiquity? I am trying to learn about it and sort out my own reactions to it as an admittedly rather stuffy high church Anglo-Catholic.

This explanation from Sunday's bulletin:
For centuries in Easter Orthodox, Catholic, and Protestant countries, the week following Easter Sunday, including "Bright Sunday" (the second Sunday after Easter), was observed by the faithful as 'days of joy and laughter" with parties and picnics to celebrate Jesus' resurrection. Priests would deliberately include amusing stories and jokes in their sermon in an attempt to make the faithful laugh. Churchgoers and pastors played practical jokes on each other, drenched each other with water, told jokes, sang and danced. It was their way of celebrating the resurrection of Christ - the supreme joke God played on Satan by raising Jesus from the dead. Early church theologians (like Augustine, Gregory of Nyssa, and John Chrysostom) mused that God played a practical joke on the devil by raising Jesus from the dead. "Risus Paschalis - The Easter Laugh," the early theologians called it. The observance of Risus Paschalis was officially outlawed by Pope Clement X in the 17th century. While it's unclear why the tradition faded in Orthodox & Protestant traditions, it has experienced a bit of a revival. In 1988, the Fellowship of Merry Christians began encouraging churches to resurrect this tradition to celebrate the grace and mercy of God through the gift of laughter and joy.
What is your experience, knowledge, and/or reaction? It is all new to me.

Thank you for bringing this up, my dearly beloved brother, for you have struck a nerve as this particular service, which I was aware of, really ticks me off. Allow me to explain:

I saw this at a UMC parish once, and I didn’t find it very humorous. The whole point of St. Thomas Sunday, also known as Low Sunday in the West or as Antipascha in the Orthodox Church, is the very solemn reading of the text proving that Jesus Christ is indeed risen in the flesh and not an apparition as the Docetists and Gnostics blasphemously asserted.

Holy Humor Sunday displaces that and instead substiutes a carnival-like atmosphere which in my opinion contradicts the instruction of St. Paul the Apostle that all things be done “Decently and in order.” The Methodist elder, who I otherwise liked, made a remark in his sermon about not needing to be “so deathly serious” all the time, but this kind of view represents a misinterpretation of Lent (which is supposed to be a joyous fast) and also of Pascha, Bright Week and Antipascha, which are again, supposed to be exceedingly joyful, but not comical or whimsical. Indeed, even on Great and Holy Friday, there is an Orthodox liturgy, which consists of Vespers and Matins for Holy Saturday, that is joyful, insofar as it celebrates the triumph of Christ on the cross in the spirit of the choral section of Handel’s Messiah following the crucifixion section “Who is the king of Glory?” Only the Tenebrae service, and its Eastern equivalent the Twelve Gospels service (which is very similar in that twelve candles get extinguished like those on the Tenebrae hearse*, which is Vespers for Good Friday (remember, the church day starts at Vespers), and certain Good Friday services such as parts of the Roman liturgy, and in the Eastern Orthodox church the Matins and Royal Hours, are a bit of a tear -jerker. But even then the rest of Holy Week has joyful aspects, for instance, the Bridegroom Matins of the Eastern Orthodox and Syriac Orthodox liturgies (technically the Syriac Orthodox service is a Vespers, and there is only one of them, but it is celebrated at the same time of day as the Bridegroom Matins and has similar wording in its introductory hymn).

So when we start messing with the service of antipascha, the problem is that we undermine the serious joy of the passage that proves that Christ rose from the grave in the flesh and instead substitute frivolous nonsense.

Now, I should add, lest anyone think that I’m some grumpy, humorless curmudgeon, that I do have a sense of humor which is whimsical, and love a good laugh. I have a number of ecclesiastical jokes; I also particularly enjoy droll British humor, and the satirical Slavic humor and biting Jewish humor (along with humorous terms, for example, an Ashkenazi term for a silly man which I don’t know how to spell). I think I have told a few jokes on CF.com; I’m not particularly disposed to in this thread, because as I said earlier, Holy Humor Sunday really ticks me off. I would suggest to anyone whose church celebrates this to ask their minister what it is about the idea of Docetism they find so amusing as to risk people falling victim to it by taking St. Thomas Sunday and turning it into what amounts to a parody of a worship service evocative of the Festival of Fools in the Parisian culture, at the worst possible time in the liturgical calendar in terms of the signifgiance of the lection on Antipascha. Also, ask them what they think will be the reaction of those who may have been ill on Easter Sunday and unable to attend when they attend that service. Ask them who they think they are to throw out a tradition more than sixteen centuries in age, shared by very nearly the entire Church, in favor of a 20th century innovation which many Christians feel is in bad taste.

I would note that a lovely British lady who attended the UMC church I visited that day apologized to me after the service assuring me that was not how they normally worshipped. And indeed I visited them on several other occasions and normally enjoyed the worship at that church. Their music wasn’t great, but neither was the local Episcopal parish particularly stellar in terms of its musical direction, but it was passable, and the architecture of the parish was lovely, the parish having been constructed by the parishioners themselves. Alas the presbyter, who I liked, retired, and was replaced by a husband and wife team who I heard good things about, but most of the more traditional local clergy were fired by the local district superintendent, including a Hispanic presbyter who was solidly evangelical and had revitalized the church in which I was born, who the DS recently replaced with a very controversial caucasian person who scared everyone away that he had brought in from the local community (which has become predominantly Hispanic), “in the interests of diversity.”

* These services like most of the Paschal liturgies have a common ancestor in the liturgies of the Church in Jerusalem that date back to the fourth century and St. Cyril of Jerusalem, author of the Mystagogical Catecheses, since, because of pilgrimages for Pascha, the Hagiopolitan church exerted enormous liturgical influence over the entire church, as bishops making the pilgrimage would be inclined to introduce rites based on those of Jerusalem back in their own churches
 
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@seeking.IAM I also have some comments on the church bulletin - these might seem snippy so I want to make sure you are aware they are directed at whoever wrote the bulletin and not you yourself:

the supreme joke God played on Satan by raising Jesus from the dead. Early church theologians (like Augustine, Gregory of Nyssa, and John Chrysostom) mused that God played a practical joke on the devil by raising Jesus from the dead.

There’s a difference between musing about that, and turning the service of Antipascha into a parody of a worship service.

The observance of Risus Paschalis was officially outlawed by Pope Clement X in the 17th century. While it's unclear why the tradition faded in Orthodox & Protestant traditions,

It never existed in Orthodox tradition, and Pope Clement X made a good call.

In 1988, the Fellowship of Merry Christians began encouraging churches to resurrect this tradition to celebrate the grace and mercy of God through the gift of laughter and joy.

Which would be fine if it were not done at the expense of commemorating the resurrection of Christ our True God in the flesh by reading the most explicit verses describing His resurrection from the Gospel of St. John in which St. Thomas feels the wounds. A commemoration, by the way, which is essential in communicating to the laity that our Lord was not revived as a mere spirit, which is particularly important given the increase in docetism in the West and the misplaced focus many Protestants have in which they are concerned about the eternal life of their soul, but not the resurrection of the Body, which is integral to the Eschaton promised in the Gospel, that, to quote Handel’s Messiah once more, that God willing, if I persevere, “In my flesh I will see God.”
 
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post: 78120729 said:
For centuries in Easter Orthodox, Catholic, and Protestant countries, the week following Easter Sunday, including "Bright Sunday" (the second Sunday after Easter), was observed by the faithful as 'days of joy and laughter" with parties and picnics to celebrate Jesus' resurrection.
Bright week is indeed a joyous time, with no fasting on Wednesday and Friday in honour of the Resurrection, but fasting is also relaxed on those days up until Pentecost. It is also traditional to greet each other with, "Christ is risen!" until Pentecost, to which we joyfully respond with, "Truly He is risen!", or "He is risen indeed!"
Priests would deliberately include amusing stories and jokes in their sermon in an attempt to make the faithful laugh. Churchgoers and pastors played practical jokes on each other, drenched each other with water, told jokes, sang and danced.
This is where we would respond with "citation needed". I have never heard of this growing up in the Anglican Church and I am confident it has never existed in the Orthodox Church
It was their way of celebrating the resurrection of Christ - the supreme joke God played on Satan by raising Jesus from the dead. Early church theologians (like Augustine, Gregory of Nyssa, and John Chrysostom) mused that God played a practical joke on the devil by raising Jesus from the dead. "Risus Paschalis - The Easter Laugh," the early theologians called it.
That sounds like someone's very liberal interpretation of the Church Fathers. It isn't how I've read them. I think once again we would need actual citations, but St John Chrysostom's Paschal homily which is read every Easter Sunday immediately comes to mind. The whole, "Hades was embittered" section doesn't come across to me as God playing a practical joke.
 
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I have had it suggested to me that this might have been better posted in the Traditional Theology forum. I do not want it to be and hope there is no effort to move it. I purposefully posted it here for Anglican discussion with one invited non-Anglican guest who I respect as a scholar of church history and liturgies. I appreciate the responses I have had thus far, but I hope to hear from other Anglican brothers and sisters soon about their experiences and responses.
 
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I've never heard of that. I kind of suspect this is something that the charismatic renewal folks stumbled upon, totally misunderstood, and more than half made up in the reimplantation. I am confident that no Continuing Anglican church celebrated in that manner.
 
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I've never heard of this. My experiences of the Easter season in Episcopal parishes have been mostly on the East Coast (New Jersey, North Carolina); I don't know if practices are different in other areas of the country.
 
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Apparently it is a thing, albeit obscure perhaps. I ran across this today. As my wife reminds me, "Google is your friend."


I must say there was not any level on which it appealed to me. The funniest thing about the service was watching our new Associate Rector also experiencing this for the first time. I thought he sat expressionless like a stone. I did find humor in that. Forgive me.
 
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Well. Who knew? And I see it's not a regional thing, after all. The churches listed in The Joyful Noiseletter are in many different states.

Interestingly, one of the churches (Mantua United Methodist) is about a mile from my own church. So, okay, at least one church in my local area is doing it.

I agree with @The Liturgist that having it overshadow St Thomas is unfortunate. I might be open to the idea of a Holy Humor Sunday, but could we maybe have it on the umpteenth Sunday after Pentecost instead?
 
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I invite my fellow Anglicans as well as my learned Orthodox friend @The Liturgist to share their experiences, knowledge, and or reactions to the subject of this thread.

As you may recall, a couple of years ago I relocated resulting in a change from attending an Anglo-Catholic Episcopal parish with high churchmanship which was my entry point into Anglicanism. Now things are quite different. My new parish has lower churchmanship probably best defined as broad church and is decidedly not Anglo-Catholic. There has been much for me to adjust to, but especially now I'm curious about a local practice of celebrating the second Sunday of Easter as "Holy Humor Sunday." This is totally new to me, so I ask is this a thing, a local anomaly, a practice elsewhere in the church, a re-emerging trend, a historical practice lost in antiquity? I am trying to learn about it and sort out my own reactions to it as an admittedly rather stuffy high church Anglo-Catholic.

This explanation from Sunday's bulletin:
For centuries in Easter Orthodox, Catholic, and Protestant countries, the week following Easter Sunday, including "Bright Sunday" (the second Sunday after Easter), was observed by the faithful as 'days of joy and laughter" with parties and picnics to celebrate Jesus' resurrection. Priests would deliberately include amusing stories and jokes in their sermon in an attempt to make the faithful laugh. Churchgoers and pastors played practical jokes on each other, drenched each other with water, told jokes, sang and danced. It was their way of celebrating the resurrection of Christ - the supreme joke God played on Satan by raising Jesus from the dead. Early church theologians (like Augustine, Gregory of Nyssa, and John Chrysostom) mused that God played a practical joke on the devil by raising Jesus from the dead. "Risus Paschalis - The Easter Laugh," the early theologians called it. The observance of Risus Paschalis was officially outlawed by Pope Clement X in the 17th century. While it's unclear why the tradition faded in Orthodox & Protestant traditions, it has experienced a bit of a revival. In 1988, the Fellowship of Merry Christians began encouraging churches to resurrect this tradition to celebrate the grace and mercy of God through the gift of laughter and joy.
What is your experience, knowledge, and/or reaction? It is all new to me.
(posting in fellowship)

This is very informative. Thanks for posting.

Since you only wanted other Anglicans to discuss, I will not comment further.

Take care.
 
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All I have been able to find is that it began in Bavaria in the 15th century.
There are claims that it started much earlier but without any shred of evidence offered.
 
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I've never heard of this. The closest I've come was a theological lecturer who was very fond of musing on the "hilarity of the saints," and I gather this is sometimes called "holy hilarity Sunday."

It wouldn't suit my personality. I am willing to note that other people have different personalities and might find such a thing edifying, if it were done exceptionally well, and I suspect that would be difficult to do.

I note the discussion about the choice of date, straight after Easter or some obscure point in ordinary time, and I see the point being made. That said, perhaps there is another point of view, and I offer it prompted by just having spent most of the week at the annual diocesan clergy conference. I noticed that, to be honest, my colleagues were rather more prone to (bluntly) silliness and frivolity than is normal for this group, and it seemed to me that after Lent and Easter, with all their solemnity and exhaustion, perhaps people really needed to just let off some steam? Maybe that can be true for laity too? Just a thought...
 
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That sounds like someone's very liberal interpretation of the Church Fathers. It isn't how I've read them. I think once again we would need actual citations, but St John Chrysostom's Paschal homily which is read every Easter Sunday immediately comes to mind. The whole, "Hades was embittered" section doesn't come across to me as God playing a practical joke.

It does sound like a misunderstanding of the Christus Victor theme.
 
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I want to say I deeply admire how every Anglican on CF.com has such good liturgical taste. I don’t think any of you would be enthusiasts of some of the liturgical degradations that alienated me from the church in which I was baptized and even from most of the other Protestant churches in this part of the US (back East, there is more formality, I would note, but back east, Amtrak conductors still wear the full cap, tie and jacket, whereas outwest some of them do not; Southern California, parts of Nevada, and Arizona, New Mexico and Florida are the least dressy parts of the US outside of, for instance, Hawaii or Guam or the US Virgin Islands). Part of this is due to the heat but heat need not interfere with good liturgics, as is demonstrated by the Syriac, Coptic, Hagiopolitan and Ethiopian churches. Indeed in the case of the Ethiopians it gave them the idea of using beautiful liturgical parasols (Umbrellas) which are carried over important objects like the Eucharist and various icons, during processions, similar to the canopies one sees in the pre-1969 Roman Rite and to some extent even now.
 
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I want to say I deeply admire how every Anglican on CF.com has such good liturgical taste. I don’t think any of you would be enthusiasts of some of the liturgical degradations that alienated me from the church in which I was baptized and even from most of the other Protestant churches in this part of the US (back East, there is more formality, I would note, but back east, Amtrak conductors still wear the full cap, tie and jacket, whereas outwest some of them do not; Southern California, parts of Nevada, and Arizona, New Mexico and Florida are the least dressy parts of the US outside of, for instance, Hawaii or Guam or the US Virgin Islands).

You can't even buy good traditional menswear in Florida to deal with the heat. Like unlined seersucker, for instance. So I just gave up on traditional menswear years ago.

In the church circles I hang out in, guayaberas and Hawaiian shirts are the uniform for men in the summer (which lasts 5 months of the year, and by midcentury will be an additional month of heat). It fits the vibe of our church just fine. It wouldn't even look out of place in alot of Episcopal churches down here, most of them have modern architecture. If people give questions about sandals, I just tell them it was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me.
 
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You can't even buy good traditional menswear in Florida to deal with the heat. Like unlined seersucker, for instance. So I just gave up on traditional menswear years ago.

In the church circles I hang out in, guayaberas and Hawaiian shirts are the uniform for men in the summer (which lasts 5 months of the year, and by midcentury will be an additional month of heat). It fits the vibe of our church just fine. It wouldn't even look out of place in alot of Episcopal churches down here, most of them have modern architecture. If people give questions about sandals, I just tell them it was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me.

I used to have a lovely seersucker jacket which was white with grey stripes
 
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I used to have a lovely seersucker jacket which was white with grey stripes

In Florida, much of the time stores aren't even stocked with appropriate clothing for the climate, just the same type of stuff you get all along the east coast. I've even seen stores stock thermal underwear, something I've never really needed in all my 25+ years of living here. It gets down to below freezing maybe once every two years, and then only in the morning.
 
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Even within my own state, I am struck by differences in congregational cultures. I moved from my city with its flagship Episcopal Chruch having high churchmanship where ushers and many men were in suits. In my new church a few hours away, I feel like the oddity showing up at church in a tie and jacket, and even quirkier when I feel like it is bowtie day. I reckon I don't really mind being "that guy." I like to swim upstream.
 
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In Florida, much of the time stores aren't even stocked with appropriate clothing for the climate, just the same type of stuff you get all along the east coast. I've even seen stores stock thermal underwear, something I've never really needed in all my 25+ years of living here. It gets down to below freezing maybe once every two years, and then only in the morning.

And when it does it messes with the citrus growers. Fortunately there is some redundancy between California and Florida in this regard although we have less citrus growing than in the past. Lots of citrus growers switched to avocado because its more profitable. Nonetheless Florida and California are the two great citrus states.
 
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Even within my own state, I am struck by differences in congregational cultures. I moved from my city with its flagship Episcopal Chruch having high churchmanship where ushers and many men were in suits. In my new church a few hours away, I feel like the oddity showing up at church in a tie and jacket, and even quirkier when I feel like it is bowtie day. I reckon I don't really mind being "that guy." I like to swim upstream.

I myself am more interested in what the clergy are wearing than the laity, in part because my illness has prevented me on occasion from adhering to my normal standards of attire.
 
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