Re-thinking

[tall73]

I have been struck lately with a number of things that I don't have the answers for. But one thing that I keep coming back to is the alignment of the feasts throughout the yearly cycle.

It is clear that the passover has at least two fulfillments--Jesus dying as the passover Lamb, and then the final delieverance of the people--Jesus says that He will eat it anew in the kingdom with us.

As I have been looking at the day of atonement imagery for some time now. But I can't reconcile a fulfillment at the ascension with the yearly arrangement.

I certainly think that the author of Hebrews shows the temple services--all of them, not just the Day of Atonement--but the daily, yearly, inaugural, red heifer ,etc. were all wrapped up at the ascension. That is to say Jesus paid the price and ministered His blood. But I am not sure that rules out a fulfillment of the feasts, and particularly the day of atonement at the end.

Perhaps this is another turn in my thinking, back towards something closer to the traditional view.

In reading the Daniel and Revelation Committee reports I do see some evidence for their argument--though it is not in all ways quite the traditional view that they take.

Anyway, I just want to thank you all, especially Adventtruth, Onthe DL, Jon0388g etc. for being willing to talk things through, and for your prayers. I know you did not always agree with me, but it is good to have a strong presentation of both sides.

Perhaps at this point I am simply realizing that I don't have all the answers, but my new answers don't resolve things any better than my old ones. So why rush into something that I may regret.

I also apologize if I have been too direct lately or too harsh. I don't mean to be critical. I am really wanting to make sense of this all. I am going to continue studying this out, but not commenting as much here, as I think I may have run ahead to conclusions I had not studied through completely. And when I post back and forth on a topic it tends to have a polarizing effect.

 

[Adventtruth]

I have been struck lately with a numberof things that I don't have the answers for. But one thing that I keep coming back to is the alignment of the feasts throughout the yearly cycle.

It is clear that the passover has at least two fulfillments--Jesus dying as the passover Lamb, and then the final delieverance of the people--Jesus says that He will eat it anew in the kingdom with us.

As I have been looking at the day of atonement imagery for some time now. But I can't reconcile a fulfillment at the ascension with the yearly arrangement.

I certainly think that the author of Hebrews shows the temple services--all of them, not just the Day of Atonement--but the daily, yearly, inaugural, red heifer ,etc. was all wrapped up at the ascension. That is to say Jesus paid the price and ministered His blood. But I am not sure that rules out a fulfillment of the feasts, and particularly the day of atonement at the end.

Perhaps this is another turn in my thinking, back towards something closer to the traditional view.

In reading the Daniel and Revelation Committee reports I do see some evidence for their argument--though it is not in all ways quite the traditional view that they take.

Anyway, I just want to thank you all, especially Adventtruth, Onthe DL, Jon0388g etc. for being willing to talk things through, and for your prayers. I know you did not always agree with me, but it is good to have a strong presentation of both sides.

Perhaps at this point I am simply realiing that I don't have all the answers, but my new answers don't resolve things any better than my old ones. So why rush into something that I may regret.

I also apologize if I have been too direct lately or too harsh. I don't mean to be critical. I am really wanting to make sense of this all. I am going to continue studying this out, but not commenting as much here, as I think I may have run ahead to conclusions I had not studied through completely. And when I post back and forth on a topic it tends to have a polarizing effect.

I have pm you.

Adventtruth

 

[Sophia7]

I would also like to thank everyone who has taken the time to express your beliefs on these subjects during the past few weeks. Forgive me if I have come across as too harsh and critical. I have been confronted with many things that I had never before had to think about, and I have had to study a lot. I have spent most of my free time studying the Bible and examining theological issues. I have read some very extreme views on both sides, as well as some more moderate positions. I can't say that everything has been resolved completely in my mind, but things are becoming more clear.

 

[Jon0388g]

(Tall73, Sophia7) That's cool! I hope you continue to prayerfully search your Bibles and that God will reveal all things to you in time. In my honest, honest opinion aside from all the evidence/biblical support concerning 1844 and the sanctuary message, there's just something magical about it that just feels right. I absolutely have faith in the SDA church, and believe it to be the only church with the true gift of prophecy, and I also have faith that our Lord is continually sanctifying us day by day. Of course, we make mistakes, but we must always hold fast to our one and only true hope, and that is our Saviour Jesus Christ!

"For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to seperate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 8:38,39

(Ps. I hope this doesn't mean our dialogue on the topic will stop! )

 

[messianicigirl]

I have been struck lately with a number of things that I don't have the answers for. But one thing that I keep coming back to is the alignment of the feasts throughout the yearly cycle.

It is clear that the passover has at least two fulfillments--Jesus dying as the passover Lamb, and then the final delieverance of the people--Jesus says that He will eat it anew in the kingdom with us.

As I have been looking at the day of atonement imagery for some time now. But I can't reconcile a fulfillment at the ascension with the yearly arrangement.

I certainly think that the author of Hebrews shows the temple services--all of them, not just the Day of Atonement--but the daily, yearly, inaugural, red heifer ,etc. were all wrapped up at the ascension. That is to say Jesus paid the price and ministered His blood. But I am not sure that rules out a fulfillment of the feasts, and particularly the day of atonement at the end.

Perhaps this is another turn in my thinking, back towards something closer to the traditional view.

In reading the Daniel and Revelation Committee reports I do see some evidence for their argument--though it is not in all ways quite the traditional view that they take.

Anyway, I just want to thank you all, especially Adventtruth, Onthe DL, Jon0388g etc. for being willing to talk things through, and for your prayers. I know you did not always agree with me, but it is good to have a strong presentation of both sides.

Perhaps at this point I am simply realizing that I don't have all the answers, but my new answers don't resolve things any better than my old ones. So why rush into something that I may regret.

I also apologize if I have been too direct lately or too harsh. I don't mean to be critical. I am really wanting to make sense of this all. I am going to continue studying this out, but not commenting as much here, as I think I may have run ahead to conclusions I had not studied through completely. And when I post back and forth on a topic it tends to have a polarizing effect.

Just a thought. I personally think that the Feast cycle continues, without the sacrifices. Christ's first coming as the suffering servant fullfills the need for sacrifices. In the current keeping of the Feasts if one focuses on Christ as the sacrificial lamb, the issue solved. It's important to continue to keep the Feasts because Christ has not come again to rule. He first came to be our sacrifice and reconcile us to God and allow us to commune with the comforter (The Holy Spirit). When he comes the next time. He will come to set up rule on Earth. And even then, the Feast cycle will be kept. Because all of the nations will come to the Feasts to recognize the Most High.

 

[Sophia7]

That's an interesting thought--definitely something to consider.