(Ray Epps) Former Leader Of Oath Keepers, Sentenced To Just 1 Year Probation For His Actions Surrounding The Jan 6th Capitol Event?

[Belk]

"... enrages MAGA crowd.". Gosh. How rare and unusual. The perpetually outaged being upset over something not real.

 

[JustOneWay]

Is a charter leader a leader?

The title insinuates that Epps was the leader of the Oath Keepers. Elmer Stewart Rhodes III was the leader of the Oath Keepers on Jan 6th. Epps was never the leader. The title is misleading.

 

[JustOneWay]

NewsWeek​

Ray Epps' Jan. 6 Sentence Enrages MAGA​

Jan 09, 2024

Ray Epps was sentenced on Tuesday to one year of probation for his role in the January 6 riots at the U.S. Capitol in 2021, prompting widespread criticism on social media from conservatives and supporters of the MAGA movement.

Donald Trump Jr. wrote: "Ray Epps gets probation, a $500 fine and is able to phone into his sentencing?!? Are you fricken kidding me? Yea guys, he totally wasn't put there to incite things by the feds. Our country is screwed... the traitors in charge aren't even pretending anymore."

"BREAKING: Ray Epps sentenced to 1 year probation, $500 fine after telling J6ers 'we need to go into the Capitol' Why did Epps text his nephew 'I orchestrated it'? Why was Epps on the FBI's most wanted list and then suddenly removed? Why did the New York Times write a puff piece on Epps? Why is Epps receiving such a kid gloves treatment?" conservative commentator and founder of Turning Point USA Charlie Kirk wrote on X, formerly Twitter.

Kentucky Republican Representative Thomas Massie also responded to the sentencing and said, "Ray Epps, the man who directed people to go into the Capitol and privately claimed credit for orchestrating the Capitol breach, gets one year probation. Nothing to see here!"

Tucker Carlson Reporting On Ray Epps Jan 6th Capitol Event, Must See!

The authorities did it just to own the red hats. LOL spite is so fun.... what was it that people were supposed to do with their feelings again?

 

[Truth7t7]

Epps was a chapter leader, not the leader.

Ok

 

[perplexed]

This is very odd. Why are Republicans and conservatives frustrated at this. This makes no sense at all. I thought conservatives and Republicans were more for letting many of the J6ers off the hook? There have been folks who have received ridiculously harsh sentences. Whereas this guy gets a very light sentence. Which in my mind is what most of the people should be getting. I don't know, maybe they are and it's just not publicized.

??? really????
I assume you don't know there is a conspiracy theory claiming that Ray Epps is an FBI agent that works for the deep state and encouraged people to be violent on Jan 6th to discredit Trump supporters

 

[Truth7t7]

??? really????
I assume you don't know there is a conspiracy theory claiming that Ray Epps is an FBI agent that works for the deep state and encouraged people to be violent on Jan 6th to discredit Trump supporters

My eyes witnessed Ray Epps and his actions surrounding Jan 6th, no conspiracy whatsoever

He's was on the FBI's most wanted list then removed, he was caught on video inciting people to take and enter the capitol Jan 5th, he was on an erected platform with a bull horn inciting and instructing people to enter and take the capitol on Jan 6th

Ray Epps then gets a probation sentence and gets to have his hearing and sentencing via skype conference call to the courtroom

Ray Epps was 100% on the FBI payroll, a FBI planted asset

 

[Hans Blaster]

Came back for another round I see...

My eyes witnessed Ray Epps and his actions surrounding Jan 6th, no conspiracy whatsoever

I agree. Ray Epps was not conspiring with anyone.

He's was on the FBI's most wanted list then removed,

Because they knew who he was and had already interviewed. There was no need for the public to continue to send in "tips" about who he was. (And it wasn't a "most wanted list" it was a list of unidentified suspects who engaged in violence. Epps was neither unidentified nor violent. There was no need for him to be on the list. Others would be removed later after ID.)

he was caught on video inciting people to take and enter the capitol Jan 5th, \

As I've pointed out repeatedly, to charge on incitement the prosecutors need demonstrate beyond a reasonable doubt that his words induced anyone to act. Given that he was treated with suspicion as "a Fed" on those same videos from Jan 5th it would be very difficult to prove his actions that night actually incited anyone to attack the Capitol.

he was on an erected platform with a bull horn inciting and instructing people to enter and take the capitol on Jan 6th

No he wasn't.

Ray Epps then gets a probation sentence and gets to have his hearing and sentencing via skype conference call to the courtroom

All very normal for misdemeanor defendants in Jan 6th cases.

Ray Epps was 100% on the FBI payroll, a FBI planted asset

Epps and the DOJ denied this on the record (and subject to perjury charges) in his case and the DOJ has denied it when it came up in multiple other cases. A lot of people have put themselves subject to perjury (and disbarment) if it is a lie.

 

[rambot]

The armed police did escourt Chansley through the building, all the way to the Senate chambers, and they hung out for the prayer meeting

And I'm sure you have evidence of that in the form of some video?

So curious EXACTLY what you are trying to imply with "escort".

It's my opinion you are drinking the kool-aid, following and promoting false narratives blindly

All we have is the justice system and like tens of thousands of hours of security and cell phone footage. Nothing says conspiracy like video tape evidence.


Nobody argument that hinges on tucker Carlson words should be used by a rational person. His bloody network was proven to have lied about thr election. Him too.

Under normal msm rules, back in the 20th century there would be ACTUAL reputational consequences for a news organization foe stuff like that. But not for Trump supporters and conspiracy theorists; where else are they gonna get their red meat from?

 

[Truth7t7]

Came back for another round I see...

I agree. Ray Epps was not conspiring with anyone.

Because they knew who he was and had already interviewed. There was no need for the public to continue to send in "tips" about who he was. (And it wasn't a "most wanted list" it was a list of unidentified suspects who engaged in violence. Epps was neither unidentified nor violent. There was no need for him to be on the list. Others would be removed later after ID.)

As I've pointed out repeatedly, to charge on incitement the prosecutors need demonstrate beyond a reasonable doubt that his words induced anyone to act. Given that he was treated with suspicion as "a Fed" on those same videos from Jan 5th it would be very difficult to prove his actions that night actually incited anyone to attack the Capitol.

No he wasn't.

All very normal for misdemeanor defendants in Jan 6th cases.

Epps and the DOJ denied this on the record (and subject to perjury charges) in his case and the DOJ has denied it when it came up in multiple other cases. A lot of people have put themselves subject to perjury (and disbarment) if it is a lie.

 

[perplexed]

He's was on the FBI's most wanted list then removed, he was caught on video inciting people to take and enter the capitol Jan 5th, he was on an erected platform with a bull horn inciting and instructing people to enter and take the capitol on Jan 6th

And why do you say Trump was NOT inciting a riot?

 

[rjs330]

??? really????
I assume you don't know there is a conspiracy theory claiming that Ray Epps is an FBI agent that works for the deep state and encouraged people to be violent on Jan 6th to discredit Trump supporters

So people are upset that he got a light sentence because they think he's an FBI agent? They want him to have a harsh sentence?

To me they all should have gotten misdemeanor charges and released. Nothing happened on Jan 6. Little damage was done, the rioters didn't kill anybody and the election went on as usual. This was a an event that was over in a few hours and everyone went home. It was dumb, criminal charges should have been filed and fines paid, wrists slapped now let's move on and do y do it again.

But instead the left has to to make it out to be the worst thing to happen since WWII. That the country almost fell, and the government almost taken over by some dudes wearing baseball caps and using loud voices. Democracy was nearly killed by a dude dressed in native American garb.

Utter nonsense.

 

[rjs330]

And why do you say Trump was NOT inciting a riot?

Ummm.... Because Trump didn't tell people to do that? I believe the words were lets walk peaceably and have our voices heard.

I don't think he told anyone to enter the capital or take the capital.

 

[A2SG]

Ummm.... Because Trump didn't tell people to do that? I believe the words were lets walk peaceably and have our voices heard.

I don't think he told anyone to enter the capital or take the capital.

Funny how you concentrate on that one quote, and miss several others:

Turn your cameras please and show what’s really happening out here because these people are not going to take it any longer. They’re not going to take it any longer. ...

We will never give up, we will never concede. It doesn’t happen. You don’t concede when there’s theft involved. ... [irony alert!]​

And, of course:

And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.​

That one, of course, was at the end. The one you quoted was much, much earlier in the speech.

-- A2SG, ever notice how you remember the ending of a movie more than something that happens in the middle....

 

[perplexed]

Ummm.... Because Trump didn't tell people to do that? I believe the words were lets walk peaceably and have our voices heard.

I don't think he told anyone to enter the capital or take the capital.

Ray Epps also used the words "peacefully" but there is a common belief Ray Epps incited violence and Ray Epps did not