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Straight answer ..... the immortal pre-tribulation of His true ecclesia
"Scripture above says when He comes Hes bringing ALL His Saints. All of them"
Both the dead in Christ and those living at the time will be made immortal .... all of them .... and including those who become believers during the tribulation and martyred for their faith
"Scripture above says when He comes Hes bringing ALL His Saints. All of them"
Both the dead in Christ and those living at the time will be made immortal .... all of them .... and including those who become believers during the tribulation and martyred for their faith
OK. Youve made it quite clear that you believe the saints found in the Jude scripture are those who were raptured
Of the pre-tribulation [3:10] .... not those of the tribulation [Revelation 6:9-11] .... these will have to wait to the end of the ribulation
Are you saying these saints are those who were raptured?
1 THES. 3 [11] Now God himself and our Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, direct our way unto you. [12] And the Lord make you to increase and abound in love one toward another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you: [13] To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, AT THE COMING OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WITH ALL HIS SAINTS.
Scripture above says when He comes Hes bringing ALL His Saints. All of them
You need to understand that there is a difference between those believers made immortal before the tribulation .... and those who will become believers during the tribulation and martyred .... these will have to wait until the end of the tribulation
Believers before the tribulation are not appointed to the same
All people who enter the tribulation will do so in unbelief will have to repent to be saved just like those who become Christian do today [Revelation 3:15-19]
Many profess to be Christian today, but they are not .... and if the tribulation were to come today, these will go in to the same as unbelievers
You told me before that the last trumpet aint really the last trumpet. Are you now telling me theres 2 first resurrections?
You told me before that the last trumpet aint really the last trumpet. Are you now telling me theres 2 first resurrections?
The one at the 1Cor.15 event
REV. 20 [4] And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I SAW THE SOULS OF THEM that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and WHICH HAD NOT WORSHIPPED THE BEAST, NEITHER HIS IMAGE, NEITHER HAD RECEIVED HIS MARK UPON THEIR FOREHEADS, OR IN THEIR HANDS; AND THEY LIVED AND REIGNED WITH CHRIST A THOUSAND YEARS. [5] But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. THIS IS THE FIRST RESURRECTION. [6] BLESSED AND HOLY IS HE THAT HATH PART IN THE FIRST RESURRECTION: ON SUCH THE SECOND DEATH HATH NO POWER, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
And this one for those who confronted the beast?