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leothelioness

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Nope. They may simply feel it is an inadequate response to the problem of equality, as many feminist-critical people do.
This is interesting. I'm genuinely interested in knowing what, in your view, would be an adequate response? How can we solve such a problem where both sides benefit?
 
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you said i didn't apply it to women and then quoted me applying it to women.

i'm sorry but you are wrong, about me and my views. i have plenty of reason to be wary of men. when i see people doing some of the same warning signs from the past then yes i will comment on it because nobody did back then.

it's a simple concept. someone hurts you, then another, then another hurts your friends, then another hurts your family. and all those times it was specifically men hurting women, when that is all you have to go on, it is natural to lose trust towards the common factor of who did the hurting.

obviously you refuse to believe me about myself, so this whole debate is pointless. i'm sure you'll do another break down of this post but i don't care. i'm done trying to defend my anxieties to some random person on the internet.

you get some cookies and i'm going to find dinner.

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you said i didn't apply it to women and then quoted me applying it to women.

Yes, you moved the goalposts. You are still not prejudiced against women the way you are against men.

i'm sorry but you are wrong, about me and my views. i have plenty of reason to be wary of men. when i see people doing some of the same warning signs from the past then yes i will comment on it because nobody did back then.

What, disagreeing with you?

Did they have hair and eat breakfast too?

it's a simple concept. someone hurts you, then another, then another hurts your friends, then another hurts your family. and all those times it was specifically men hurting women,
Yes, bigotry is a simplistic mindset.

when that is all you have to go on, it is natural to lose trust towards the common factor of who did the hurting.
Except not all common factors are relevant. Gender is one of them. Ditto race, sexual orientation etc.

As I said, I'm sure they all had breakfast that morning too.

better be hyper-vigilant of people who eat breakfast - common factor after all

It absolutely is a natural reaction. And like most of our natural reactions, it feeds us multiple false positives. I understand where it comes from, but it is incorrect thinking that needs challenging and correcting.

obviously you refuse to believe me about myself, so this whole debate is pointless. i'm sure you'll do another break down of this post but i don't care. i'm done trying to defend my anxieties to some random person on the internet.
Gotcha.

So when your feelings are hurt, everyone must bend over backwards and stop.

But you can offend people as much as you like and if you disagree you're a potential rapist.

Awesome.

I find it hard to believe anyone would actually like to live this way - in perpetual fear which turns them into a bigot.

you get some cookies and i'm going to find dinner.
Sooooo.....I'm not the one being bigoted but I get the snarky cookies?

Again, consistency is nice.
 
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you are being very bigoted in my opinion. if i haven't made it abundantly clear on these boards, i have really bad anxiety issues. things that require me to see a therapist and take a lot of medications to feel even able to cope with being awake let alone around other people. yet here you are telling me that i'm such a horrible person for having a mental illness. one caused not by someone just disagreeing with me. it takes a lot more than that to get to where i am.

not all of it was men of course, some was genetic some was family, men are just one factor in the overall but thats the topic here. i'm also afraid of spiders and motorcycles, being bitten and getting into an accident kinda does that to a person, this is no different.

so yeah, you can call me a bigot all you like but you are the one trying to shame a woman for being afraid due to past abuse. and that's just sick. i'm sorry but your comfort with wanting everyone to like and trust you does not trump other peoples mental well being.

now seriously i can't deal with this topic more right now. maybe we can pick it up another time. i expect you'll claim victory with me trying again to leave, but i hope i'm wrong.
 
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This is interesting. I'm genuinely interested in knowing what, in your view, would be an adequate response? How can we solve such a problem where both sides benefit?

Anybody?
 
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you are being very bigoted in my opinion. if i haven't made it abundantly clear on these boards, i have really bad anxiety issues. things that require me to see a therapist and take a lot of medications to feel even able to cope with being awake let alone around other people. yet here you are telling me that i'm such a horrible person for having a mental illness. one caused not by someone just disagreeing with me. it takes a lot more than that to get to where i am.

not all of it was men of course, some was genetic some was family, men are just one factor in the overall but thats the topic here. i'm also afraid of spiders and motorcycles, being bitten and getting into an accident kinda does that to a person, this is no different.

so yeah, you can call me a bigot all you like but you are the one trying to shame a woman for being afraid due to past abuse. and that's just sick. i'm sorry but your comfort with wanting everyone to like and trust you does not trump other peoples mental well being.

now seriously i can't deal with this topic more right now. maybe we can pick it up another time. i expect you'll claim victory with me trying again to leave, but i hope i'm wrong.
I'm so sorry you endured abuse, Punky. And you have every right to be cautious of people. It's only natural to be afraid of what has hurt you. Once bitten, twice shy as they say. :hug:
 
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you are being very bigoted in my opinion.

Criticising you isn't bigotry. You're not a protected class.

if i haven't made it abundantly clear on these boards, i have really bad anxiety issues. things that require me to see a therapist and take a lot of medications to feel even able to cope with being awake let alone around other people.
Have a medal, I have anxiety issues to that extent as well.

yet here you are telling me that i'm such a horrible person for having a mental illness.
Oh please, I've done nothing of the kind. If it was just the reaction that would be one thing. The problem is you defending it and saying there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.

one caused not by someone just disagreeing with me.
it takes a lot more than that to get to where i am.
And yet you claimed men online who disagreed with you in the feminism thread merited suspicion.

so yeah, you can call me a bigot all you like but you are the one trying to shame a woman for being afraid due to past abuse. and that's just sick. i'm sorry but your comfort with wanting everyone to like and trust you does not trump other peoples mental well being.
I don't want everyone to like and trust me. What I want is for people to stop treating men they encounter as a threat based on nothing more than their gender - especially when those people belong to a movement that throws screaming hissy fits any time anyone does the same to women as a group, and are allegedly seeking equality.

now seriously i can't deal with this topic more right now. maybe we can pick it up another time. i expect you'll claim victory with me trying again to leave, but i hope i'm wrong.
You failed to justify your position long before you left the topic so I have no need to do that :wave:
 
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