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Rude is subjective. I’m not sure why some people in this thread don’t understand that.It can have both sexual and non-sexual meanings. But in all cases, it's rude.
Rude is subjective. I’m not sure why some people in this thread don’t understand that.
No one I know thinks that swear words are inherently rude.
My grandparents swore, and yelling anything at all in a theater is rude.Try saying them to your grandparents or shouting them in a fancy dinner or theater. See if people don't consider it rude.
We aren't plants.
Nobody is saying profanity is acceptable in every situation--that's a straw man. The fact that someones grandma is uncomfortable with some use of profanity is not evidence that words are inherently wrong. There is nothing wrong with certain words--there are just people with Victorian ideas of language.Try saying them to your grandparents or shouting them in a fancy dinner or theater. See if people don't consider it rude.
If I shout out references to sexual acts in mixed company, would you not consider that rude? Ever notice when they want to make it even more vulgar they apply it to someone's mother?How does it simply being a reference to mating itself make it the worst curse word ever?
If I shout out references to sexual acts in mixed company, would you not consider that rude? Ever notice when they want to make it even more vulgar they apply it to someone's mother?
Why did God make us this way? Why couldnt people reproduce like plantsIf I shout out references to sexual acts in mixed company, would you not consider that rude? Ever notice when they want to make it even more vulgar they apply it to someone's mother?
You might want to ask him that. It's not that sex is inherently bad. It's that it gets warped into nothing but an act and not the loving expression of a dedicated couple, and that's what the word being discussed means, the act devoid of love.Why did God make us this way? Why couldnt people reproduce like plants
Blasphemy is kind of important, whether the irreligious are cognizant of that fact or not.Profanity upsets the religious because it it is transgressive in areas of sex and blasphemy. This is why the non religious don't care as much. It has nothing to do with intelligence and everything to do with cultural rules of purity.
It means anger has mastered him and he is just striking out like a child.Actually it has many different meanings. For example, someone saying 'f you' usually doesn't mean that they want to have sex with you, it means that they hate you.
For religious people is feels important; personally, I am not concerned with offending a god, but I would not want to offend a person I am speaking with by insulting a belief they hold. So the line for me would be social, not theological.Blasphemy is kind of important, whether the irreligious are cognizant of that fact or not.
This is almost a silly question but what you said reminded me of it. do you think the f word is offensive because it refers to off limits stuff in and of itself (which isnt nice for people to talk about regardless of the other details)?You might want to ask him that. It's not that sex is inherently bad. It's that it gets warped into nothing but an act and not the loving expression of a dedicated couple, and that's what the word being discussed means, the act devoid of love.
I am annoyed at the rampant profanity in our culture. People I would otherwise enjoy listening to grate on my moral sensibilities.
Some of them I listen to anyway.
You know I fully agree with this. Unless offense is intended. We live in a society of perpetual offense. Even Christians do that. And according to Paul we shouldn't. Take a look at the cancel culture.Yes. It is fine. Offense is taken, not given.
This post is really really well said. I would like to add that this is precisely the reasons Christian speech should not include profanity.The loathsomeness of the f-word doesn't come from its partial meaning of sex. The f-word carries so much more meaning and an INTENSELY bigger connotation than that.
The word just reduces everything it intensifies to it's lowest level.
- It's used for shock value. And so many times for that reason alone.
- It's used to be nasty, purposefully impolite, and abusive.
- It's implies disgust, condemnation of something or someone, or contempt to the highest degree possible. She's not just ugly. She's f'ing ugly. Meaning you won't find anyone uglier and she is to be mocked and shunned because of it.
- It's vulgar. If it were NOT vulgar - people wouldn't give the word such a high degree of merit. They would ignore the word.
- And as for it's use meaning sex - it strips sexual activity of anything meaningful. It just deems it as a act without bonding and reduces it to mere rutting.
I know the occassional use of it may intensify a good thing. Such as - that was f'ing awesome. But there is too much of the word that is vulgar, cheapens the object being intensified, and is just used to shock people and to be nasty, negative, and hurtful to the highest degree possible.
Speech is a gift from God. We are created in his image. We have an alphabet and language in ways that animal communication don't. God said in his word, "Let your speech be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you will know how to answer each person." Jesus Christ, himself, said, "It's not what goes into a man's mouth that defiles him, but what come out of his mouth."
I know there are some here that I won't change your mind. I'm just answering the question asked.
Because God exists irrespective of belief.Why--how do you make that case from a secular perspective?
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