Rampant profanity

[ToddNotTodd]

It is bad by default. It's also objectively bad.

Seems like that statement can’t be backed up with any evidence that could even remotely point to an opinion being “objectively bad”...

 

[Caliban]

It is bad by default. It's also objectively bad. But I never saw your argument, so if you want to sum it up for me that'd be great.

It is not bad by default. Where is your evidence for this. That sounds like a personal opinion. If profanity is indicative of inferior intelligence in some way, how do you explain the use of profanity by geniuses?

 

[renniks]

It is not bad by default. Where is your evidence for this. That sounds like a personal opinion. If profanity is indicative of inferior intelligence in some way, how do you explain the use of profanity by geniuses?

Doesn't matter how "intelligent" someone is, spouting profanity is still the weak part of their brain coming to the forefront.

 

[Caliban]

Doesn't matter how "intelligent" someone is, spouting profanity is still the weak part of their brain coming to the forefront.

Prove that statement. What evidence do you have for this. Do you have evidence from neuroscience?

 

[renniks]

Prove that statement. What evidence do you have for this. Do you have evidence from neuroscience?

It's something called common sense, but I understand that's it is a rare commodity these days.

 

[Caliban]

It's something called common sense, but I understand that's it is a rare commodity these days.

Well that is not true or convincing. If it were true there would be evidence.

 

[renniks]

Well that is not true or convincing. If it were true there would be evidence.

The evidence is that profanity makes one sound like a fool and adds nothing to a conversation.

 

[Caliban]

The evidence is that profanity makes one sound like a fool and adds nothing to a conversation.

Wait...that is your opinion, it is not evidence. I have beed edified by Shakespeare and others who employ profanity. There are beautiful songs that use profanity--for example Jason Isbell's song Elephant. That song is emotionally powerful and the use of profanity elevates that emotion.

 

[Tinker Grey]

Wait...that is your opinion, it is not evidence. I have beed edified by Shakespeare and others who employ profanity. There are beautiful songs that use profanity--for example Jason Isbell song Elephant. That song is emotionally powerful and the use of profanity elevate that emotion.

Hadn't heard of that guy before. Thanks.

 

[ToddNotTodd]

It's something called common sense, but I understand that's it is a rare commodity these days.

Common sense says there’s a difference between opinion and fact. You have an opinion.

 

[Caliban]

Hadn't heard of that guy before. Thanks.

He is brilliant. Best songwriter working today...and Dylan is still alive. Thats my opinion anyway.

 

[Tinker Grey]

He is brilliant. Best songwriter working today...and Dylan is still alive. Thats my opinion anyway.

Blasphemy! (I do recommended Dylan's latest album: Rough and Rowdy Ways -- https://genius.com/albums/Bob-dylan/Rough-and-rowdy-ways)

 

[pc_76]

So you think words can't ever be harmful?

I don't think the profane words themselves are truly harmful, if not just being tasteless. I think the intention of the heart is a bigger issue.

 

[renniks]

So does everyone, shrug.

Common sense says there’s a difference between opinion and fact. You have an opinion.

 

[ToddNotTodd]

So does everyone, shrug.

I try never to present my opinions as anything other than opinions...

 

[Press On]

[1] Ephesians 4:29 = "Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear."
[2] Ephesians 5:4 = "Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving."
[3] Colossians 3:8 = "But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth."

These verses you quoted are an inspiration in a culture where profanity is so casually used and defended.

I have chemical imbalance depression and have noted consistently that I tend to use it sporadically when depressed, irritated or frustrated. It is most always to myself under my breath or alone and almost never used in conversations with others; nevertheless I do not like it.

When my thinking is reasonable and normal (which is the vast majority of the time) I do not cuss. Ex military and old retired trucker here. Just got so used to hearing it that it lost any shock value.

Thank you for posting those scriptures. They are there to encourage yielding to the Spirit rather than leaning on the flesh. "Let your yes be yes and no be no". Just an imperfection I try to work on every day. I judge no one, but for me it is something to shoot for eliminating.

 

[Sammy-San]

I used to "cuss" like a sailor. In my 30's and 40's. Only around a few people. Not around children, my family. Pretty much just a very small handful of colleagues. About 2 -3.

Why? I thought it was funny. I thought it relieved tension. That small handful of colleagues always laughed. I thought, "It's just those few ladies.....and they laugh. What's the harm." And here I was a devout Christian.

Then one day, we got a couple of new colleagues and our wing was blamed for something we did not do. We were thoroughly and verbally trounced without so much an opportunity to defend ourselves.

On the way back to our wing - I let out a string of profanity. The worst of the worst. I was so mad. I heard my colleagues laughing again only this time I was thinking "This is NOT funny!"

I turned around to tell them that and the look on the two new colleagues faces' stopped me in my tracks. Their look was shock and disbelief.

And for the first time, I got a GOOD look at my long term colleagues laughing. It was not a "oh, that's funny laugh". It was a nervous laugh.

I spent a long time - a few months - looking at what the Bible says about speech. I was appalled at myself and ask God to forgive me. He did.

I told those ladies that I was sorry and that they would never hear that from me again. And they haven't.

[1] Ephesians 4:29 = "Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear."
[2] Ephesians 5:4 = "Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving."
[3] Colossians 3:8 = "But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth."

Is the F word so offensive because it refers to off limits stuff itself or it refers to abnormal off limits thigns like pornography and related behaviors or specific gross sexual acts.

 

[Caliban]

I don't think the profane words themselves are truly harmful, if not just being tasteless. I think the intention of the heart is a bigger issue.

The intention of the heart is what the religious care about--others focus on actions. I'll take actions.

 

[renniks]

The intention of the heart is what the religious care about--others focus on actions. I'll take actions.

Constantly cursing is an action. It's also a choice, even if it's a habit, it can be broken.

 

[Sammy-San]

Constantly cursing is an action. It's also a choice, even if it's a habit, it can be broken.

Is the F word so offensive because it refers to off limits stuff itself or it refers to abnormal off limits thigns like pornography and related behaviors or specific sexual acts. This is an awkard question because it wouldnt be right to get into details but Ive wondered why the f word is considered such a big deal.

I can handle people saying the f word every other word, more than people making fart jokes. That doesnt mean that the reference to mating itself doesnt make it disgusting and more disgusting than other stupid behaviors, it just makes it a different type of sin.