Raise your hand and say "Aye"!

[HumbleMan]

Violence is never the perfect answer but sometimes it is the best. I don't like confrontation, but I would respond as necessary to any threat to my family.

One thing we shouldn't ever do, though, is glorify the violence, or the taking of one's life. There are times when it is necessary, but we should always grieve at using it.

 

[ZiSunka]

Violence is never the perfect answer but sometimes it is the best. I don't like confrontation, but I would respond as necessary to any threat to my family.

One thing we shouldn't ever do, though, is glorify the violence, or the taking of one's life. There are times when it is necessary, but we should always grieve at using it.

It should always be the last resort, not the first reflex.

 

[mlqurgw]

Everyone who thinks violence is the answer to violence, raise your hand and say "aye!"

LL, before I make any comments I do want you to understand they aren't intended to offend nor are they said in any way of contentiousness. They are just showing what I see.

The statement is loaded and has no right response other than the one you are looking for. It is the very definition of rhetoric. Rhetoric is what causes contention. It is like saying you either agree with me or you are stupid. You poison the well before you begin.
You are a very intelligent person and I am convinced that you are more than capable of making a convincing argument without the use of rhetoric.

 

[seebs]

Violence is never the perfect answer but sometimes it is the best. I don't like confrontation, but I would respond as necessary to any threat to my family.

One thing we shouldn't ever do, though, is glorify the violence, or the taking of one's life. There are times when it is necessary, but we should always grieve at using it.

I think this is a significant point. What scares me about willingness to violence is not that someone might, after careful consideration, come to believe an act of violence justified. What scares me is the tendency to glory in it.

 

[joyouspirit]

This is true. There are several Marys in the Bible that get confused. The only reference to Mary Magdalene was that she was filled with evil spirits or crazy. (Mad Mary)

But I understand your point j2vlha, we should be humbling ourselves before any aim at another, if be it at all possible.

It is a common misconception that this was Mary Magdalene, and the "Passion of the Christ" helped this misinformation along.

Still you got my point. to that.

 

[Razorbuck]

It should always be the last resort, not the first reflex.

Has anyone stated otherwise? If so I missed it.

 

[ZiSunka]

LL, before I make any comments I do want you to understand they aren't intended to offend nor are they said in any way of contentiousness. They are just showing what I see.

The statement is loaded and has no right response other than the one you are looking for. It is the very definition of rhetoric. Rhetoric is what causes contention. It is like saying you either agree with me or you are stupid. You poison the well before you begin.
You are a very intelligent person and I am convinced that you are more than capable of making a convincing argument without the use of rhetoric.

The statement isn't loaded. It was my attempt to figure out who is and who isn't of the belief that violence is best answered with violence.

There were many threads in which I was finding out that people I believed to be opposed to violence were in fact in favor of it when it was in response to violence initiated by the other party, such as in the Israel/Hezbollah case. That some people saw the question as flaming partly gave me my answer. That some people thought this thread was worth splitting the forum over--inconceivable.

The question is what it is--no hidden motive was involved.

You probably ought to look up the definition of rhetoric, too.

 

[mesue]

Moved at the request of the OP

 

[ZiSunka]

Yikes!

I didn't ask for it to be moved, I asked for it to be closed!

 

[mesue]

Yikes!

I didn't ask for it to be moved, I asked for it to be closed!

Now, you know what you did
Will close at the OPs request.