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Racial diversity disproves Creationism?

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JoelM

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According to the Bible, Noah had three sons: Japheth, Shem and Ham. Japheth's descendants are European Whites, Shem's descendants Semitic Whites and Ham's descendants are Black African peoples.

So what is the origin of East Asians, Native Americans and Australian Aborigines?

It's not biologically possible that a Black or White person has a Native American child. Chinese and Mayan civilizations however existed when the Flood allegedly happened. There is actually solid archeological evidence that Chinese and Native American people lived in China and North America over 10 000 years ago.

If Noah's flood happened 4000-5000 years ago, only some kind of "super-evolution" could explain the existence of all human races but generally creationists don't believe in the evolution theory at all.
 

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Good point, but you made one mistake: Shem supposedly was Oriental according to superstition.

However, beyond that, your point is irrefutable and my correction is merely a technicality.

Another excellent reason why I cannot ever agree with YECism.
 
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Good point, but you made one mistake: Shem supposedly was Oriental according to superstition.
Jews and Arabs are Shem's descendants according to the Bible. Jews did not even know that Chinese people exist in Biblical times so the connection between Shem and East Asians is definitely farfetched. Caucasian Semites and East Asians aren't racially or linguistically related.
 
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Then it was the other one. According to the superstition, each of the three was the ancestor of the three "races" of humanity: Caucasians, Negroids, and Mongroids. It was their way to "explain" how humans could look so differently.

I'm not saying its correct, of course :)
 
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According to the Bible, Noah had three sons: Japheth, Shem and Ham. Japheth's descendants are European Whites, Shem's descendants Semitic Whites and Ham's descendants are Black African peoples.
Nice one Joel, this subject is interesting for me. If for anything its about the only topic in High School Biology that I didnt sleep through.

I was never convinced that white men evolved from white primates, and black men from black primates ;) so there had to be a common descent from all humanity.

So what is the origin of East Asians, Native Americans and Australian Aborigines?
One could write a book on Genesis 10, Probably someone has already. There is much more to be known than just the simple text. You can start with the meaning of the names in Hebrew, which tell the story behind the name.

Mitiochondrial DNA research tells us that Aborigines came from Africa, and the Asians/Americans came from one of the 'stans in whatever you call that part of Europe, so that harmonises nicely with the details given in Gen10.

It's not biologically possible that a Black or White person has a Native American child.
There is no black and white, only shades of brown. When people have kids they dont come out exactly matching with each other or a perfect average of their parents.

If Noah's flood happened 4000-5000 years ago, only some kind of "super-evolution" could explain the existence of all human races
All it takes is a small group to be isolated and within a couple of generations you will have a group of people with common characteristics.

It happened on Pitcairn island almost 200 years ago, when a small group settled there, after a short time there was only 1 englishman and 9 tahitian women were left, and some children, most of them looking pecurely familiar. in other words, same daddy. Today, pretty much the entire poplulation traces its ancestry to John Adams (not Mel Gibson)

Thats why we have different ethnic groups around the world. The more isolated they were, by geography and culture, the more unique the look.

Now look at what we are seeing throughout the world now, very little isolation, so mixed marriages are becoming exponentially more common, racial diversity is going backwards :)
 
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This shouldn't be problematic for Biblical literalists. Microevolution of human populations can occur within a thousand years, and even mainstream scientists now claim that the differences between the ethnic groups didn't appear until 12,000 years ago (See: Before the Dawn by Nicholas Wade).
 
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There is no difference between microevolution and macroevolution.

Evolution is evolution. The only reason YECs "split" it into two is so they can have their cake and eat it too. So-called "macroevolution" is a great number of "microevolution." The only difference is number; the actual biology is the exact same.
 
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