Do you know that some of the scribes or what you called "Secretaries" made their own verses and incporporated them in the "Quran" that you have today!!! and with the approval of Muhammad himself ? ! , which led them to abandon "Islam" as they have exposed the claim of "revelation" to be a mere lie?Arthra said:Qur'an was revealed over several years through Prophet Muhammad
There were also secretaries who also wrote the Revealed Word on whatever they had available and these eventually were gathered together with the oral tradition and were compiled as the Qur'an we have today.
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let me give you an example:Abdullah ibn Sad ibn Abi Sarh , one of the writters of the so called "Revelation" would put his own words in the Quran,
let's see what the Quran says
وَمَنْ أَظْلَمُ مِمَّنِ افْتَرَى عَلَى اللَّهِ كَذِباً أَوْ قَالَ أُوحِيَ إِلَيَّ وَلَمْ يُوحَ إِلَيْهِ شَيْءٌ وَمَنْ قَالَ سَأُنْزِلُ مِثْلَ مَا أَنْزَلَ اللَّهُ وَلَوْ تَرَى إِذِ الظَّالِمُونَ فِي غَمَرَاتِ الْمَوْتِ وَالْمَلائِكَةُ بَاسِطُو أَيْدِيهِمْ أَخْرِجُوا أَنْفُسَكُمُ الْيَوْمَ تُجْزَوْنَ عَذَابَ الْهُونِ بِمَا كُنْتُمْ تَقُولُونَ عَلَى اللَّهِ غَيْرَ الْحَقِّ وَكُنْتُمْ عَنْ آيَاتِهِ تَسْتَكْبِرُونَ (93)
6: 93. And who is more unjust than he who forges a lie against ALLAH, or says, `It has been revealed to me,' while nothing has been revealed to him; and who says, `I will sent down the like of that which ALLAH has sent down ?' And if thou couldst only see, when the wrongdoers are in the agonies of death, and the angels stretch forth their hands, saying, `Yield up your souls. This day shall you be awarded the punishment of disgrace because of that which you spoke against ALLAH falsely and because you turned away from HIS Signs with disdain.'
let us read the interpretation of this verse from Qurtoby:
قوله تعالى: "ومن قال سأنزل مثل ما أنزل الله" "من" في موضع خفض؛ أي ومن أظلم ممن قال سأنزل، والمراد عبدالله بن أبي سرح الذي كان يكتب الوحي لرسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم، ثم ارتد ولحق بالمشركين. وسبب ذلك فيما ذكر المفسرون أنه لما نزلت الآية التي في "المؤمنون": "ولقد خلقنا الإنسان من سلالة من طين" [المؤمنون:12] دعاه النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم فأملاها عليه؛ فلما انتهى إلى قوله "ثم أنشأناه خلقا آخر" [المؤمنون: 14] عجب عبدالله في تفصيل خلق الإنسان فقال: "تبارك الله أحسن الخالقين" [المؤمنون: 14]. فقال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: (وهكذا أنزلت علي
(This verse) was in regard to Abdallah Ibn Abi Sarh, who used to write the 'revelation" to the messanger of Allah PBUH, then he abandoned Islam and joined the mushrikin " Polythiests" and the reason as recorded by the commentators is that when the aya in the surah of " Al Mumenoun (Surah 23:12) "He began the creation of man from clay" was revealed, the messanger of Allah called him and dictated it to him, and when he came to "and then We brought it forth as another creation" 23:14, Abdallah was amazed with the creation of Allah and said "So Blessed is Allah, the Best of creators" so the messanger of Allah (Muhammad) PBUH said " and so it was reveald to me, so then Abdallah doubted and said, If Muhammad was truthful that it was revealed to him, but if he is a liar, I said what he said, then he left Islam and joined the Mushrikin.
wow.... what a declaration.... Abdallah fortells the so called "revelation" !!!! and Muhammad approves of it !!
so what happened to Abdallah?
Muhammad ordered him killed as we can see in
In Sunan Abu Dawud, the book of Hudud(Prescribed punishments) , and chapter of punishment of the apostates
حدثنا عثمان بن أبي شيبة حدثنا أحمد بن المفضل حدثنا أسباط بن نصر قال زعم السدي عن مصعب بن سعد عن سعد قال لما كان يوم فتح مكة اختبأ عبد الله بن سعد بن أبي سرح عند عثمان بن عفان فجاء به حتى أوقفه على النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم فقال يا رسول الله بايع عبد الله فرفع رأسه فنظر إليه ثلاثا كل ذلك يأبى فبايعه بعد ثلاث ثم أقبل على أصحابه فقال أما كان فيكم رجل رشيد يقوم إلى هذا حيث رآني كففت يدي عن بيعته فيقتله فقالوا ما ندري يا رسول الله ما في نفسك ألا أومأت إلينا بعينك قال إنه لا ينبغي لنبي أن تكون له خائنة الأعين
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abdallah was not the only one to expose Muhammad's claim,
others such as سعيد بن حرب عبدالله بن خطل
Said Ibn Harb Abdallah Ibn Khatl who would change what Muhammad says, then re-reads it back to Muhammad with "His own version, i.e Said's version, and Muhammad would agree to it, which made Said realize that Muhammad is nothing but a liar, so he left Islam as well
and went back to his tribe saying:
فرجع إلى قريش فقال: ليس آمره بشيء كنت آخذ به، فينصرف فلم يؤمنه، فكان أحد الأربعة الذين لم يؤمنهم النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم.
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he was also ordered killed !!!
وأخرج عبد بن حميد عن سعيد بن جبير رضي الله عنه قال: لما فتح النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم الكعبة أخذ أبو برزة الأسلمي وهو سعيد بن حرب عبد الله بن خطل وهو الذي كانت قريش تسميه ذا القلبين، فأنزل الله ( ما جعل الله لرجل من قلبين في جوفه ) (سورة الأحزاب الآية 4 ) ، فقدمه أبو برزة فضربت عنقه وهو متعلق بأستار الكعبة،
where?
he was (Beheaded) at the Kaaba (in Mecca) while taking refuge at its curtains" !!!
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