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Quiz time - calvinist or arminian?

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"I do believe in some election, and some free will, I don't swing in any one direction strongly."

Nice try. Believing in "some election" is like being a "little" bit pregnant.

So which toe of yours did I step on? The one where if I don't believe in All election and no freewill I am heretic, or if I say there's some free will in there I must be all Arminian.... ?
 
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Well, since the OP didn't feel like offering some definitions to explain things.. I just went ahead and googled. So I'm mostly Arminian. Though one thing I saw in the description that I disagree with is the belief that Christians can "fall from grace" or lose their salvation.

That doesn't really agree with believing that Christians are predestined, though...
 
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I wouldn't identify myself as either, but I'm not a theo-determinist. I do not worship a god who would create man for the purpose of populating Hell. I would call such a being evil.

This is a baffling caricature of someone's position, though I'm not sure who's. Elaborate, perhaps?
 
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Very off topic I apologize. One day as I was searching through the forum, I read a whole thread about Arminianism. I mean I know what it is but my brain did not connect that moment. So the whole time, I am sad, upset, and deeply hurt that almost every single person is putting down Armenians, and thinking "why, what have they done that is so wrong, that you have to be so cruel?" And then it hit me on page 6 or something...I felt stupid.

:( That's actually really sad! lol...but Armenians rock and always will. They're some of the coolest people around :D


Lutherans are neither Calvinist nor Arminian. Its a false dichotimy. (sp?)

But for the fun of it on the quiz I got

Calvinism: 62%
Arminianism: 58%

Interesting how you can combine the scores and get more then 100%.


Luther would be pleased ;). One of my best friends is an LCMS pastor, and he always insists that there are only two dichotomies in the world: Law/Gospel and Cross/Glory. :D

Not taking the quiz...Drax is an Augustinian. :cool:
 
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There are similarities in both Arminianism and Calvinism to Catholicism and Orthodoxy. For example, a lot of Calvinist thought is based in Augustine. There are a lot of Arminians who draw from him and the church fathers before him.

And the two schools of thought are actually probably a lot closer than most of us think they are. But you have the Hyper Calvinist and those who are actually semi-pelagian like, and they butt heads and make it seem like the two are complete opposites, and only one is the true way of life. This is silly, because we all serve the Lord Jesus.
yeah
Arminianism was made as a response to Calvinism, they are very close to eachother
both can be called "Reformed Theologies"
 
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Don't Catholics believe in works salvation?
lol EO's soteriology annoys me the most. "We're saved.. if God feels like it even though we have all this revelation. We're just such horrible wretches that God might betray his promises just to make surely sure we stay humble.
no Catholics do not believe in works salvation

I would say that eastern soteriology should be looked at more deeply then this, a real examination should be made before such harsh words are spoken
 
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yeah
Arminianism was made as a response to Calvinism, they are very close to eachother
both can be called "Reformed Theologies"

I don't know if I call Arminianism specifically "Reformed Theology" since "Reformed" (in its purest sense) tends to refer to the school of theology that came out of Geneva with Zwingli, Calvin, Knox, etc. You could definitely call it a Reformation-Era Theology or Reformation Theology, though :)
 
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I don't know if I call Arminianism specifically "Reformed Theology" since "Reformed" (in its purest sense) tends to refer to the school of theology that came out of Geneva with Zwingli, Calvin, Knox, etc. You could definitely call it a Reformation-Era Theology or Reformation Theology, though :)
Jacobus Arminius was a dutch Reformed Theologian, so Arminianism broke off from the Reformed Tradition
also I do not want to start a debate, but I have heard some Arminians claim that they are closer to the teachings of Calvin then modern Calvinists
 
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Jacobus Arminius was a dutch Reformed Theologian, so Arminianism broke off from the Reformed Tradition
also I do not want to start a debate, but I have heard some Arminians claim that they are closer to the teachings of Calvin then modern Calvinists

I agree with you on that first part. But i have never heard anyone say that Arminians are closer to calvin than modern calvinists. This makes me giggle. :D
 
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This is a baffling caricature of someone's position, though I'm not sure who's. Elaborate, perhaps?

It is an accurate description of theodeterminism, which is itself virtually a caricature of original Calvinism.
 
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I agree with you on that first part. But i have never heard anyone say that Arminians are closer to calvin than modern calvinists. This makes me giggle. :D
i do not really have a dog in that fight, just saying what I heard some people say
 
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Jacobus Arminius was a dutch Reformed Theologian, so Arminianism broke off from the Reformed Tradition
also I do not want to start a debate, but I have heard some Arminians claim that they are closer to the teachings of Calvin then modern Calvinists

I'm not trying to debate, just a brotherly correction I'd want anyone to likewise do to me. :p

You're right that they broke off from the Reformed Tradition, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are themselves part of that tradition. For example, the Methodists broke off from the Anglican Church, but that does not mean they are themselves Anglican.

And as for the Arminians that claim they are closer to the teachings of Calvin than modern Calvinists...I think you're referring to Norman Geisler and his followers. Geisler likes to call himself a "moderate Calvinist." The problem is he's reinventing terms as opposed to how they have been used for hundreds of years. To give an example: imagine if I taught Calvinism and attempted to called myself a "moderate Wesleyan." I'd have every Wesleyan reading my arguments tilting their heads and crossing their eyes in utter confusion.

It is an accurate description of theodeterminism, which is itself virtually a caricature of original Calvinism.

Ah, you mean like hyper-Calvinists? Those guys are always fun to deal with. Apparently they think Jesus was pulling one over on the apostles when He told them to go out and do missionary work. :D
 
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