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"I do believe in some election, and some free will, I don't swing in any one direction strongly."
Nice try. Believing in "some election" is like being a "little" bit pregnant.
Well, since the OP didn't feel like offering some definitions to explain things.. I just went ahead and googled. So I'm mostly Arminian. Though one thing I saw in the description that I disagree with is the belief that Christians can "fall from grace" or lose their salvation.
also ethie i read your post, you make me laugh girl, we love a no matter what your ethnicity.
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I wouldn't identify myself as either, but I'm not a theo-determinist. I do not worship a god who would create man for the purpose of populating Hell. I would call such a being evil.
I wouldn't identify myself as either, but I'm not a theo-determinist. I do not worship a god who would create man for the purpose of populating Hell. I would call such a being evil.
Very off topic I apologize. One day as I was searching through the forum, I read a whole thread about Arminianism. I mean I know what it is but my brain did not connect that moment. So the whole time, I am sad, upset, and deeply hurt that almost every single person is putting down Armenians, and thinking "why, what have they done that is so wrong, that you have to be so cruel?" And then it hit me on page 6 or something...I felt stupid.
Lutherans are neither Calvinist nor Arminian. Its a false dichotimy. (sp?)
But for the fun of it on the quiz I got
Calvinism: 62%
Arminianism: 58%
Interesting how you can combine the scores and get more then 100%.
yeahThere are similarities in both Arminianism and Calvinism to Catholicism and Orthodoxy. For example, a lot of Calvinist thought is based in Augustine. There are a lot of Arminians who draw from him and the church fathers before him.
And the two schools of thought are actually probably a lot closer than most of us think they are. But you have the Hyper Calvinist and those who are actually semi-pelagian like, and they butt heads and make it seem like the two are complete opposites, and only one is the true way of life. This is silly, because we all serve the Lord Jesus.
no Catholics do not believe in works salvationDon't Catholics believe in works salvation?
lol EO's soteriology annoys me the most. "We're saved.. if God feels like it even though we have all this revelation. We're just such horrible wretches that God might betray his promises just to make surely sure we stay humble.
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Arminianism was made as a response to Calvinism, they are very close to eachother
both can be called "Reformed Theologies"
Jacobus Arminius was a dutch Reformed Theologian, so Arminianism broke off from the Reformed TraditionI don't know if I call Arminianism specifically "Reformed Theology" since "Reformed" (in its purest sense) tends to refer to the school of theology that came out of Geneva with Zwingli, Calvin, Knox, etc. You could definitely call it a Reformation-Era Theology or Reformation Theology, though![]()
Jacobus Arminius was a dutch Reformed Theologian, so Arminianism broke off from the Reformed Tradition
also I do not want to start a debate, but I have heard some Arminians claim that they are closer to the teachings of Calvin then modern Calvinists
This is a baffling caricature of someone's position, though I'm not sure who's. Elaborate, perhaps?
Jacobus Arminius was a dutch Reformed Theologian, so Arminianism broke off from the Reformed Tradition
also I do not want to start a debate, but I have heard some Arminians claim that they are closer to the teachings of Calvin then modern Calvinists
It is an accurate description of theodeterminism, which is itself virtually a caricature of original Calvinism.