Quiet Time- A time of no debate on the Sabbath so 'mod's' can rest.

[sentipente]

At the very least it should cut down the quanitity, right? And gives the mods a rule to point out if someone starts a clear debate on one of these days, or it will slow people from responding to it.

So, on the Sabbath you don't mind the mods working to tell posters "Don't debate" but you don't want them working to tell posters "Don't flame." Can you help me with that logic?

 

[reddogs]

If it's worded right it could be practical, considering SDA's all keep the Sabbath (logically, anyway..considering the name). I think the key will not be aiming it at "Mods get the day off" as much as wording it more towards a guideline of no debate on the Sabbath for the members and mods.

At the very least it should cut down the quanitity, right? And gives the mods a rule to point out if someone starts a clear debate on one of these days, or it will slow people from responding to it.

Thats what I am talking about, cutting the quantity and a sticky with the rule to refer to and it lets everyone know that its the mods Sabbath also. I dont think that is too much to ask, so we could make the proposal as follows:



A 'sticky' telling everyone Sabbath is a Quiet Time. This is defined as "A time of no debate on the Sabbath so 'mod's' can have their Sabbath and can join in and fellowship with no moderator duties. Moderators would still be available after the Sabbath, to take care of reports and any issues needing a moderator."


Note:The proposal can be amended as needed as long as everyone understands that 'mods' also need their Sabbath and allow for it.

 

[sentipente]

Reddogs, nobody prevents the mods from "doing nothing." Reports don't have to be made the same day the offence is made of noted. The most you can ask is that no reports me made on the Sabbath. Asking for no debate is illogical. Adventists debate on the Sabbath offline so why should it be disallowed online.

 

[reddogs]

Reddogs, nobody prevents the mods from "doing nothing." Reports don't have to be made the same day the offence is made of noted. The most you can ask is that no reports me made on the Sabbath. Asking for no debate is illogical. Adventists debate on the Sabbath offline so why should it be disallowed online.

I cant say two words without you posting as it is now, multiply that by everyone you have in one day and there isnt much chance a mod could come in on Sabbath even to share or fellowship....

 

[sentipente]

I cant say two words without you posting as it is now, multiply that by everyone you have in one day and there isnt much chance a mod could come in on Sabbath even to share or fellowship....

What are you talking about? If no one posts how can you come in here to share and fellowship?

 

[StormyOne]

I cant say two words without you posting as it is now, multiply that by everyone you have in one day and there isnt much chance a mod could come in on Sabbath even to share or fellowship....

see... and you thought I was bad......

 

[IntoTheCrimsonSky]

So, on the Sabbath you don't mind the mods working to tell posters "Don't debate" but you don't want them working to tell posters "Don't flame." Can you help me with that logic?

If there's a rule about not debating on the Sabbath specifically it makes it much different than a simple no flame rule which is valid for any day. Debating is not the same as flaming. It could take a few weeks to get into effect, but overtime everyone would adapt to it and there shouldn't be much cause.

Thats what I am talking about, cutting the quantity and a sticky with the rule to refer to and it lets everyone know that its the mods Sabbath also. I dont think that is too much to ask, so we could make the proposal as follows:



A 'sticky' telling everyone Sabbath is a Quiet Time. This is defined as "A time of no debate on the Sabbath so 'mod's' can have their Sabbath and can join in and fellowship with no moderator duties. Moderators would still be available after the Sabbath, to take care of reports and any issues needing a moderator."


Note:The proposal can be amended as needed as long as everyone understands that 'mods' also need their Sabbath and allow for it.

I'd suggest having it in the Wiki rules too, Red. I'll post this into the Wiki thread and we'll see if we can get a vote going, then. If you'd still like, we can also make it into a sticky too. Probably best to get a vote, though..considering not everyone seems to see the logic of it and should have a chance to vote no, if they wish.

 

[IntoTheCrimsonSky]

I suggested it, putting it into my own words for an actual Wiki rule here: http://www.christianforums.com/t573...t-rules-wiki-take-2.html&page=19#post37463038

Hope you think it turned out okay. God willing it will go to vote.

 

[reddogs]

see... and you thought I was bad......

I think I am beginning to become aware of good many things, in some cases much more than I ever thought or desired....

 

[sentipente]

If there's a rule about not debating on the Sabbath specifically it makes it much different than a simple no flame rule which is valid for any day. Debating is not the same as flaming.

What you are missing is that this is not about a choice between flaming and debating. This is about a choice between the mods working and not working. You still don't mind them working.

 

[StormyOne]

What you are missing is that this is not about a choice between flaming and debating. This is about a choice between the mods working and not working. You still don't mind them working.

how about this one....

John 5:15-18

The man left and told the leaders that Jesus was the one who had healed him. (16) They started making a lot of trouble for Jesus because he did things like this on the Sabbath. (17) But Jesus said, "My Father has never stopped working, and that is why I keep on working." (18) Now the leaders wanted to kill Jesus for two reasons. First, he had broken the law of the Sabbath. But even worse, he had said that God was his Father, which made him equal with God.

So if God works on the sabbath, and Jesus worked on the sabbath, and Jesus is the example as some here have suggested, then the moderators should work on the sabbath....

 

[freeindeed2]

how about this one....

John 5:15-18

So if God works on the sabbath, and Jesus worked on the sabbath, and Jesus is the example as some here have suggested, then the moderators should work on the sabbath....

This discussion is sad but funny at the same time. It's fascinating to see virtually every discussion involving the Sabbath ultimately ends up in legalism and it's attributed to what God would 'want'. It's 'OK' if others 'work' as long as 'I' get my 'legal' break. This discussion isn't about Jesus and he is not being lifted up here.

 

[StormyOne]

This discussion is sad but funny at the same time. It's fascinating to see virtually every discussion involving the Sabbath ultimately ends up in legalism and it's attributed to what God would 'want'. It's 'OK' if others 'work' as long as 'I' get my 'legal' break. This discussion isn't about Jesus and he is not being lifted up here.

it is funny and I posted the text because of the work issue....

 

[freeindeed2]

it is funny and I posted the text because of the work issue....

Yes, an inconvenient text that shows God and Jesus having 'worked' every day down through all the ages. We would do well to make God/Jesus/Holy Spirit the focus, rather than spending our time developing a legal description of what is and isn't 'appropriate' to post about one day a week. It's always appropriate to worship God and focus on Him.

 

[StormyOne]

Yes, an inconvenient text that shows God and Jesus having 'worked' every day down through all the ages. We would do well to make God/Jesus/Holy Spirit the focus, rather than spending our time developing a legal description of what is and isn't 'appropriate' to post about one day a week. It's always appropriate to worship God and focus on Him.

and it is always appropriate to do good work on the sabbath... as for the text being inconvenient, not sure what you mean by that....

 

[freeindeed2]

and it is always appropriate to do good work on the sabbath... as for the text being inconvenient, not sure what you mean by that....

Gotcha...can't explain here. The vultures are watching!

 

[IntoTheCrimsonSky]

What you are missing is that this is not about a choice between flaming and debating. This is about a choice between the mods working and not working. You still don't mind them working.

Keep in mind that I'm also talking in a first person kind of situation, being that I'm hoping to go up for election to be a mod if a few things in my offline life allow it. These are things I beleive would be benefitial from that point of view.

how about this one....

John 5:15-18

So if God works on the sabbath, and Jesus worked on the sabbath, and Jesus is the example as some here have suggested, then the moderators should work on the sabbath....

and it is always appropriate to do good work on the sabbath... as for the text being inconvenient, not sure what you mean by that....

Is it not lawful for a Pastor or church staff to work on the Sabbath? This is the same kind of work that God and Jesus did..ministering. The mod work that's being addressed here does not fit into ministering, it's work.

 

[StormyOne]

Keep in mind that I'm also talking in a first person kind of situation, being that I'm hoping to go up for election to be a mod if a few things in my offline life allow it. These are things I beleive would be benefitial from that point of view.





Is it not lawful for a Pastor or church staff to work on the Sabbath? This is the same kind of work that God and Jesus did..ministering. The mod work that's being addressed here does not fit into ministering, it's work.

isn't work, work?

 

[TrustAndObey]

how about this one....

John 5:15-18

So if God works on the sabbath, and Jesus worked on the sabbath, and Jesus is the example as some here have suggested, then the moderators should work on the sabbath....

I see both sides of this to some degree.

Jesus didn't do carpentry on the Sabbath day. He was healing and I see a big difference between the two things.

God definitely didn't stop "moderating" the world just because it was His holy day. In fact, it looks like He stepped it up a notch even.

Red, I think everyone here would be okay with you not answering any reports on the Sabbath so that you can enjoy it and rest. You mentioned really bad cases, and I think if that arises (hopefully it won't) then we could just PM you....or wait until Sunday.

I do understand you not wanting to do it, but it's going to come down to personal accountability and people realizing that you consider this work that you'll be doing six other days out of the week.

I certainly understand and I promise not to debate on the Sabbath.

 

[TrustAndObey]

Gotcha...can't explain here. The vultures are watching!

Who are you referring to as vultures?

I know you don't believe in keeping the Sabbath commandment, but in this forum, we do.

If you want to help us uplift Christ, please do it as well. Obeying the commandments of God is exactly what Jesus told us to do, right?