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Quick observation on "Passion"

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In a society so desensitized (yet it is still all they relate to and are drawn to) to violence, NYJ, this is the type of language I think many need in order to fully grasp what Jesus endured. The Gospel writers were less interested in the gore of the suffering as they were in the fact Jesus ROSE from the dead. Today's secular world believes neither. They need this wake-up call. The crucifixion wasn't pretty. It's about time someone made that obvious.
 
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i saw the movie last night and to tell you the truth, i thought it held a powerfull meaning and yes i was squimish and had to turn away at many of the scenes, but it still got its point across to me. i have always been very selfish in my belief that this whole religion thing was all about me and i never sat to think about all the things that had happen to make it about me and how Christ loved us so much. i will never look at the crucification the same again and my love for god is so much more powerful. No i would not allow my 8 year old child (that doesn't exsist) to see it, but i do recomend it for any pre-adult or adult that is doubting God's love to go and se this movie.
 
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thisistheonlynamenottaken said:
i saw the movie last night and to tell you the truth, i thought it held a powerfull meaning and yes i was squimish and had to turn away at many of the scenes, but it still got its point across to me. i have always been very selfish in my belief that this whole religion thing was all about me and i never sat to think about all the things that had happen to make it about me and how Christ loved us so much. i will never look at the crucification the same again and my love for god is so much more powerful. No i would not allow my 8 year old child (that doesn't exsist) to see it, but i do recomend it for any pre-adult or adult that is doubting God's love to go and se this movie.
i glad you don't have an 8 year old child :)
 
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Bastoune said:
In a society so desensitized (yet it is still all they relate to and are drawn to) to violence, NYJ, this is the type of language I think many need in order to fully grasp what Jesus endured.
I have to disagree with you here. In a society used to violence, maybe the reverse approach is exactly what they need to see.
 
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nyj said:
I have to disagree with you here. In a society used to violence, maybe the reverse approach is exactly what they need to see.
But a crucifixion IS violent. Jesus didn't have a cakewalk to go through. Do you really want to sugar-coat the Gospel like so many churches do?
 
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No offense nyj, but if you want the lesser violence, you can buy "The Gospal According to Jesus". I heard it is wonderful.

Me? I prefer to see something different. I love Jesus of Nazareth, which I think looked very authentic, but was played like "The Greatest..." which is also a fine film, but focused on one aspect of his life. This one will focus on another.

I hope you plan on seeing it. I'm sure tomorrow we will have many people reviewing the film.
 
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Bastoune said:
Do you really want to sugar-coat the Gospel like so many churches do?
If you can find me the gore in the Gospels, I'll gladly reconsider. In the meantime, I'm not sugar-coating anything. If I have, please present the evidence, otherwise I'd ask you to retract this uncalled-for insinuation about my faith.

For the record: I never thought that stating my point of view (which was originally in defense of the movies Jesus of Nazareth and The Greatest Story Ever Told... both of which I think are fine, and tastefully done movies) would earn me such derision.

You guys talk amongst yourselves, I don't need this kind of crud.
 
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My last comments in this thread and I'm out of it, for good.

PeterPaul said:
No offense nyj, but if you want the lesser violence, you can buy "The Gospal According to Jesus". I heard it is wonderful.
I don't want anything. If you go back and see what my original comments were, I was defending Jesus of Nazareth and The Greatest Story Ever Told. I think they were excellent movies without gore. I also suggested that perhaps there is a reason why the Gospels don't get too graphic, and I stand by this observation of mine (well, it was someone else but I think it has merit). This doesn't mean I want to sugar-coat anything, this doesn't make me anti-Mel Gibson, this doesn't mean I hate the movie. Since I have not seen the movie, and most others here at this present time haven't either, I have reserved my judgement on the movie until I do see it. Some people though have not afforded me this courtesy, even though they have yet to see the movie either.

I hope you plan on seeing it. I'm sure tomorrow we will have many people reviewing the film.
I already said I planned on seeing it this weekend. Since my girlfriend is in town tonight (unexpectedly) I may get to see it tonight. We shall see.
 
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nyj said:
If you can find me the gore in the Gospels, I'll gladly reconsider. In the meantime, I'm not sugar-coating anything. If I have, please present the evidence, otherwise I'd ask you to retract this uncalled-for insinuation about my faith.

For the record: I never thought that stating my point of view (which was originally in defense of the movies Jesus of Nazareth and The Greatest Story Ever Told... both of which I think are fine, and tastefully done movies) would earn me such derision.

You guys talk amongst yourselves, I don't need this kind of crud.
Knowing your faith, this was not an attack on your faith or your person, and for that, I retract this statement and apologize. I meant that we have so many voices out there simply denying the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus, and this movie paints a very "VIVID" picture of what happened.

Personally, I found the movies you mentioned sort of dull... but to each his own.
 
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Has anybody seen the movie yet?

I was going to go but my kids really did not want to wait to see it so my husband took them, (I’ll go tomorrow, I really want to see it alone) They just came back and they are all a little on the freaked out side. They aren't saying too much about how they feel but they look somber almost and they now have a much better understanding of the gospel account of what happened. They are actually telling me what happened, using of the lines in scripture. That’s a first around here.
 
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I just got back from seeing it. My eyes are still burning. I've never cried so hard in my life. It's a beautiful film......and a horrible one. I had to look away more than once, and I'm not squeamish. Suffering? That word sounds weak and inadequate. Suffering is what Mary did.....and that was shown in detail. Suffering just doesn't cut it when describing what Jesus went through.
 
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InnerPhyre said:
I just got back from seeing it. My eyes are still burning. I've never cried so hard in my life. It's a beautiful film......and a horrible one. I had to look away more than once, and I'm not squeamish. Suffering? That word sounds weak and inadequate. Suffering is what Mary did.....and that was shown in detail. Suffering just doesn't cut it when describing what Jesus went through.

So how effective do you think this will be for a lapsed Catholic or a lukewarm one?
 
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CryptoKnight said:
Unfortunately, knowing my argumentative personality, I think one thing that finally made me re-embrace the crucifix was knowing that it was offensive to many Mormons (not trying to start a fight, just stating my own experience).

haha Right on Brother. it Offends me, That Mormonism... which "claims" to be a Christian denomination- takes The "christ" outta Things, Refuses to Recognise The Cross- and Then Decides to Decorate its Temples and Libraries With Pentagrams and Other Occultic Symbols. :mad:

on Another Note: i'm Glad There'll be a wakeup Call on The Details of Crucifixion. being Crucified, it Seems Today, is Just a Common "christian cliche" and i Think a Lot of Christians... Dont Realize The Details of Pain That Christ Endured For Our Sake. I've studied The Physical Affects That Crucifixion Does to One's Body, and Find it Very... well, Unpleasant. it *is* a Big Deal, and i am Thankful to Have a Savior Who Was Willing to Die in That Ugly Manner For me- despite my Sin... and still Overcome Death.

The Romans Had Perfected The Art of Torture Through Crucifixion, and just Saying The Word Without a Complete Understanding of its Details Undermines The Pain That Christ Endured For us.
 
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Shelb5 said:
Has anybody seen the movie yet?

I was going to go but my kids really did not want to wait to see it so my husband took them, (I’ll go tomorrow, I really want to see it alone) They just came back and they are all a little on the freaked out side. They aren't saying too much about how they feel but they look somber almost and they now have a much better understanding of the gospel account of what happened. They are actually telling me what happened, using of the lines in scripture. That’s a first around here.
I'm going in less than 3 hours!!! :D

InnerPhyre: WOW!!!! Do tell... wait, wait, don't give away the ending! ;)
 
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