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[Gold Dragon]

Am not sure if this is the right place to ask this but.. I've been a Christian for a long time and tithed for a long time, I've also heard all the sermons on tithing, but i still don't get it. If we're new testament christians, does tithing still apply to us. Don't get me wrong, I know there are good reasons to tithe, but are we in sin if we don't? All the sermons I've heard seem to support that we are, but I can't reconcile it biblically. I don't even see tithe mentioned in the new testament. I see where it says about they all gave each what they could. Where is the answer? And if tithing does carry over from the old why just the tithing law?

I think Generous Giving has a good response to this

Generous Giving

5. Does the tithe apply to us today, or was it just for Old Testament Israel?

The tithe does apply, but not in the way we might think. Some Christians see the tithe as having nothing to do with us because it is an Old Testament institution. Other Christians insist that we are bound to the tithe as God’s standard for giving. There is an element of truth in both views, but neither of them really gets the biblical point. The overarching standard of giving in the Old Testament is the tithe. In the New Testament, however, the tithe is never commanded and rarely even mentioned. Instead, John the Baptist raises the standard of giving to 50 percent (Luke 3:11), and Jesus exhorts us to give 100 percent (Luke 21:1-4). So the scarce mention of the tithe in the New Testament is evidence not that God expects less of us today but that far more is possible. The tithe is still a helpful divine guideline insofar as it reminds us to give our firstfruits (i.e., the first and best of our income) to the Lord. But by New Testament standards, the tithe is only the beginning. Because the fulfillment of all God’s promises has come in Jesus, far more is possible. Does the tithe apply to us today? Yes, as the starting point of Christian giving.

3. How much does it take to count as generous?

God measures our gifts with a measure different from that of the world. He is not impressed with large numbers. Rather, He measures according to (1) the giver’s capacity (because He knows what we possess), and (2) the giver’s attitude (because He knows the state of our hearts). Jesus spoke to this question directly when He compared the temple gifts of the rich men with the gift of the poor widow (Luke 21:1-4). By Jesus’ reckoning, the widow gave more than the others because she gave all she had to live on. Her capacity was prohibitively little, but her attitude was extravagant. The rich, on the other hand, had so much wealth that even large gifts required little devotion of them. Biblical generosity is not any given dollar amount. Nor it is even just a given percentage rate (although percentage of assets is an important indicator of attitude, which is of great importance to God.) To be biblically generous is to recognize the God’s infinite beneficence toward us in Christ, and to give extravagantly in worship to Him, relative to what one has. To put it differently, biblical generosity is best gauged by asking not “How much am I giving to God?” but “How much am I keeping for myself?”

 

[Gold Dragon]

It does, but why do we have women speakers, preaching the word of God??? Their has to be another explaination in the bible...

There are currently two major opposing evangelical positions on the role of men and women. They are represented by the following groups.

Christians for Biblical Equality
-> statements and biblical defense

The Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood
-> Danver's statement and biblical defense

 

[chunkofcoal]

Dizzy,
There is a new forum in the congregation area for those who are unchurched or have home churches. You might want to check it out.

 

[Dizzy]

There are currently two major opposing evangelical positions on the role of men and women. They are represented by the following groups.

Christians for Biblical Equality
-> statements and biblical defense

The Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood
-> Danver's statement and biblical defense

I don't see why it would even matter as long as the women is preaching Gods ministry...

 

[Gold Dragon]

I don't see why it would even matter as long as the women is preaching Gods ministry...

For both groups, it is an issue of obedience.

For one, it is obedience to a calling of the Holy Spirit and biblical passages where we have examples of women leading and teaching.

For the other, it is obedience to other biblical passages where Paul addresses specific churches and sets clear limits on the role of women.

In our efforts to find a simple all-encompassing law or rule to describe how God desires to see the role of men and women so that we can obey it, we have often lost sight of greater things.

 

[visionary]

May I ask where the Bible says we will judge angels during the millenial reign of Christ?

1 Corinthians 6:3
Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

 

[Dizzy]

What is a pentecostal Christian??? And with other religions bible's, if anyone knows, what does it speak of?? Does it speak the truth like our christian bible or does it speak of things that people want to hear??? Like the muslims bible....

 

[Gold Dragon]

What is a pentecostal Christian??? And with other religions bible's, if anyone knows, what does it speak of?? Does it speak the truth like our christian bible or does it speak of things that people want to hear??? Like the muslims bible....

Pentecostal (1901) - Charles Fox Parham. William Seymour. Asuza Street Revival. Product of the Pentecostal Movement, influenced by the Holiness movment. Speaking in tongues.

If you are interested in studying the various Christian groups out there, I have post #15 in this thread about Denominations that is a good starting point.

Other religions do not call their holy books bibles (except the JWs) but here are some examples of them.

Islam - Qur'an (or Koran)
Judaism - Torah
Buddhism - Tripitaka
Hinduism - Shruti
Taoism - Tao Te Ching
Confucianism - Four Classics
Sihkism - Guru Granth Sahib
Jainism - Tattvartha Sutra
Shinto - none
Zoroastrianism - Avesta
Mormon (or LDS) - The Book of Mormon
Jehovah's Witnesses - New World Translation (of the Bible)
Church of Scientology - Dianetics

What do they speak of? Each is different but usually about how to live within that religion.
Do they speak the truth? There may be some truths contained in them.
Do they speak what people want to hear? Not necessarily.

Of course as a Christian, I believe that all these except for the Torah miss the ultimate truth of God found in our bible.

 

[Tazi]

I have been holding back going to church cuz I feel awkward *going with my family and feel like I need to take it step by step at a time... Just have a couple of questions to get me started..It's not required to go to church but believing in Jesus Christ is the way to be with him in heaven, is it?? When in the bible, it says Jesus made us in his image, is that meaning in his imagination or his Godly image??** QUOTE]
*Satan places doubts and fears to stop us from being with other Christians because we have the power of Christ when 2 or more of us are together. Call on His name when you feel shy about going to church. The family is a holy thing, it's good for you to go with them.,

**I think it means spiritual image of loving kindness

 

[MbiaJc]

1 Corinthians 6:3
Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

Hi Visionary:

I know we will judge angels, what I want to know is where does it say during the mellenial reign.

May God bless MbiaJc

 

[Dizzy]

Hi Visionary:

I know we will judge angels, what I want to know is where does it say during the mellenial reign.

May God bless MbiaJc

I don't have a question for this guy to answer, maybe someone else has an answer for him...

I have another question as well??!! People have searched for the Holy Grail, Noah's Arc, The Spear that punctured Jesus, the arc of the covenant... But has anyone searched for the Garden of Eden, or is God keeping it hidden??? And are they're any videos or anything that show that these people are looking for it, like national geographics, or the Discovery Channel, etc....???

 

[Dizzy]

Here's another question... When we do go to heaven, I wonder if God will allow us to have some earthly history, we can have up there, maybe movies???

 

[MbiaJc]

I don't have a question for this guy to answer, maybe someone else has an answer for him...

I have another question as well??!! People have searched for the Holy Grail, Noah's Arc, The Spear that punctured Jesus, the arc of the covenant... But has anyone searched for the Garden of Eden, or is God keeping it hidden??? And are they're any videos or anything that show that these people are looking for it, like national geographics, or the Discovery Channel, etc....???

The gardem of Eden was in Iraq, south of Bagbad. Pretty close to where the city of Babylon was located I think, right off the top of my head.

Yes I seen one on the Ark Of The Covenant a few weeks ago. I think it was on the History channel.

The city of Babylon will be built back at or near the original site.

The reason you don't have a answer for me is the Bible don't say when we will judge Angels. Most people believe it is at the Great White Throne Judgment not during the Mellimen.

 

[MbiaJc]

Here's another question... When we do go to heaven, I wonder if God will allow us to have some earthly history, we can have up there, maybe movies???

You are kidding righrt?

 

[repoland2]

There is no shourt cut to knowledge of God. I suggest you read the Bible through about 3 times before you start studying it.

That is not the best way to read the bible. It wasn't designed to read it front to back, it was designed as a reference to the Holy Spirit.

Haven't you ever been inspired to read a certain scripture or chapter, or feel inspired to just... pick it up and open it to a random page?

The gardem of Eden was in Iraq, south of Bagbad. Pretty close to where the city of Babylon was located I think, right off the top of my head.

*JAW DROPS* You see? There is ALWAYS something to learn... where did you learn this, and I'll tell you why I'm so surprised, and yet not surprised at all.

 

[Dizzy]

You are kidding righrt?

Are you saying it's impossible???

 

[repoland2]

I can't find it right this minute, but somewhere it says that NO man hath seen, nor heard, nor felt in his heart the kingdom of the Lord, or something similar to that.

That would suggest that NOTHING of this world, is going to matter when we transition because God has such WONDEROUS things planned for us. Nothing here will matter to you.

However, it is not entirely impossible.

 

[MbiaJc]

Are you saying it's impossible???

Yes, I do not God would all it. Even if we wanted one. I don't think there will be anything there pertaining to this natural world.

 

[MbiaJc]

I can't find it right this minute, but somewhere it says that NO man hath seen, nor heard, nor felt in his heart the kingdom of the Lord, or something similar to that.

That would suggest that NOTHING of this world, is going to matter when we transition because God has such WONDEROUS things planned for us. Nothing here will matter to you.

However, it is not entirely impossible.

Jesus said you can't see it unless you are born again. The Holy Spirit gives us glimpses of it. Just glimpses not the whole picture.