Questions on Alter Call? What are they, and what do you do?

[Apple Harvester]

After these past few days, I have been experiencing that God is wanting me to do extreme fellowship with Him. Which I don't mind of doing this. I'd be so pleased to do God's will, and do what I must.

God is telling to do an Alter Call, and repent my ways, and serve the Lord. I'm still a baby Christian. And I only know the Bible basics of things. I don't mind Bible college and learn Fellowship through there. But I know nothing about what to do, but wait for the Lord.

All I know is rest, recovery from my illness, repent of my sins, and slay all the bad things around me.

I know a few things about running a church. I'm destined for Architect Churches for God. But I don't know my path is yet to begin. I'm waiting for the Lord now. I'm resting and waiting.

He tells me to start a new routine, anoint my body with water and oil, and do an Alter Call.

My mother suggests to do the all cleansing of my apartment, and anointed the doorways with oil, and water to. But I don't know how to do that. For my brother. I don't know if he is a Christian. I might do that when my brother is not around. My brother is hard to discern. He behaves like a decent person. But when I play a good decent Christian song. He turns on Ozzy Osborne.

The apartment is filled with anti-christ things on the walls like band posters from a band I don't want on mine. It baffles me. I'm a Christian, and He acts like he might be an non-believer, or he might be week in the faith. I'm not sure.

I really want to change, and be lady in white for the rest of her life for God, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. But I don't know what to do about how to start my Fellowship.

Sorry, I'm a very shy person. I hardly talk in person. But when it comes to writing. I don't know when to stop. lol Please, forgive me.

 

[parsley]

Ha, I know what you mean about writing. It's easier to manage feedback!

You are concerned about doing these things properly, but in scriptures, it is very simple. You might even do a search on the word "anoint."

People develop very ritualistic methods, but God just asked you to do it -- not to fuss too much. He is the one that acts and does mighty things, not us -- so we just need to step out and move on what he says.

I agree that it's better to do this when your brother is not there. If he's always there, then wait til he falls asleep. You need to keep focus.

Some people use olive oil because it's more similar to the oil commonly used in Bible regions, but it's more about the gesture than the ingredients. This is not eye-of-bat magic, it's just obedience to what God is speaking to you. He will let you know if He wants more.

Pour a splash of oil into a little dish. Walk around the house and pray that God fills the house, and drives out anything that does not belong. You can even do it out loud-- it helps you stay on track and feel more determined about it. Dip your finger in the oil, touch every entry point -- windows, doors, maybe even technology... declare that only things of God will enter your home, and all else must leave.

It is always good to use scriptures to back up what you're praying.


An altar call is not done at every church, so finding one that does it might be part of what God wants you to accomplish.

A minister will invite people to come forward for prayer, and sometimes as an act of dedication. Many Charismatic and Pentecostal churches will do this every week, so people can be prayed for when they have illness and life troubles.

How it goes -- they invite, you walk forward (bring your valuables and leave non-valuables at your seat... don't leave an infant) and stand in front of the first row of seats. Every pastor will handle it differently, but you can stand there as long as you need to or go sit down again -- you're still in charge of what you do.

The minister and probably elders will pray with one person after another, so you might need to stand there if a lot of people are up there.

I don't always understand why God asks us to do certain things, but it is like "wash in the pool of Siloam" -- it's the act of wanting to connect with God that is most important. Sometimes He knows that what you need is in that spot, and sometimes it's just a matter of building trust.

It sounds like your spiritual life has been exciting lately!

 

[Apple Harvester]

Yes, it is exciting, but yet it is challenging. I don't have olive oil. But I do have vegetable, and carnola oil. What is surprising is that God is the one who is training me all these things. Not the people in the church. I do watch Joyce Meyer, and Joel Osteen. But they don't teach about how to defend yourself with entities, and unclean spirits. So far, the Holy Spirit is teaching how to discern spirits. But only by visual, and touch.

The Holy Spirit told me. Never to have your mouth open when there is an unwanted spirit around. Because the unwanted spirit will try to use you mouth for it's deceit. Spirits that you can't see, can use your mouth to enter through, and cloud your judgement. And speak through you. But they can't harm you, when you have the Holy Spirit. It can't enter your nose, and they can speak into your ear. So your breathing is good. But if you a Pastor or Teacher and have this issue. Wait and Hour before speaking. Let the Holy Spirit get rid of the unwanted deceitful knowledge out of you first. Like a cleansing operation that the Holy Spirit is equipped to have. I would be a good time to get breakfast or something during that time. When your away from you unwanted spirit in your home. That's before you cleanse, and anointed your home.

What ever damage they put upon you. God heals you instantly. If they reach in to harm you, like your mouth and my female parts. God has a shield in you by the Holy Spirit. If the unwanted spirit is to touch you inside. The spirit will turn to ash. Not all spirits are smart, so some will keep trying. lol

 

[damascusroad]

But they don't teach about how to defend yourself with entities, and unclean spirits.

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Relax. The Holy Spirit is in charge. He defends you against those.

The Holy Spirit told me. Never to have your mouth open when there is an unwanted spirit around. Because the unwanted spirit will try to use you mouth for it's deceit. Spirits that you can't see, can use your mouth to enter through, and cloud your judgement. And speak through you.

Dear one, that wasn't the Holy Spirit speaking, if you are a born-again Believer in Jesus as Savior and Lord. NOTHING like that can occupy the same space as the Holy Spirit. HE is the whole armor of God.

You have two natures. One is sinful (soulish: mind, will, emotions). The other is Spiritual, if you are born again. The sinful nature speaks up as often as you permit it. You permit it by failing to walk in the footsteps of Jesus. When you walk in His footsteps NOTHING can confuse you.

Cleansing and anointing is yielding to the Holy Spirit. It has nothing to do with house cleaning.

I don't know where you go to church or who you talk to, but I suggest you find another fellowship and other folks to visit with about just who you are in Jesus, IF you are born again.

 

[Apple Harvester]

Yes, I'm a born-again. But non of the church people really help. There too busy with there own life they don't teach me what I should know. If they do, they have a sermon about it. Not a face to face teaching. When I was totally sick. They didn't call me, not even visited me when I was sick. When I asked them about my fellowship they knew nothing. They told me to sign up for Hand of Hope for work. That was it.

I have asked questions about the Holy Spirit before on this forum site. Instead I get sarcasm, and even though I'm a new Christian who was born-again just months after water baptism.

When I received the Holy Spirit, I had no idea what it was. I had to study it on my own. And find out what that was. I called the church. And they acted as if it was new info. Even though the whole staff was also has there own stories on how they received the Holy Spirit. In there Bible study classes. They act as if it's a social event then actually learning. They act as if they have low faith.

Right now, I'm pretty much learning on my own at this point.

So, far right now, Jesus is my only Teacher.

 

[Apple Harvester]

Why I meant about keeping my mouth closed. Is because, I'm new about fighting against unwanted spirits. I'm under judgement under God right now because I've sinned. If I spoke against the unwanted spirit. I could get hurt. Or it won't do anything.

But I was asking about alter calls. Not, about unwanted spirits. But my church didn't even call me back about that either. I might have to call them tomorrow or see them at church this weekend. Even I don't agree about how this church runs in some areas. But I do know that God has a plan for me too. I need to know how a church runs anyway. Even when it comes to flaws, and there best talents.

 

[parsley]

Maybe this is good timing to seek out other churches or mid-week fellowships. God got you this far with this church, but you crave more than they can offer.

There are many resources, and yes we do train ourselves in a way, by the choices we make to read, research, listen, and to hear from God. Make sure that all your conclusions line up with the Word of God. It is tempting to blame the church for what they haven't done, but remember that they are all just people -- as you say, people with busy lives. None of us can do everything -- that's why a church should be built up by each member taking responsibility for growing and living out Jesus' commission.

It sounds to me like you really need a small home group with people who know about these topics. Ask around in your neighborhood or at work/school. You will get many more personal answers if people are already committed to a time slot (sadly).

I am guessing that if God gave you instructions that can't be fulfilled at your current church, then He has a scavenger hunt in store for you. Take on the task and find what He has for you.

 

[damascusroad]

Why I meant about keeping my mouth closed. Is because, I'm new about fighting against unwanted spirits. I'm under judgement under God right now because I've sinned. If I spoke against the unwanted spirit. I could get hurt. Or it won't do anything.

YOU don't fight against unwanted spirits. YOU are not under judgment. YOU don't speak against "unwanted spirits." If you learned all this at church or from someone, you need to open your Bible and distance yourself from them.

When one is born again the very Righteousness of God in Jesus is imparted. No demon can penetrate the armor of Righteousness. When God looks at you He sees the Righteousness of Jesus. When you slip into sin, open your Bible to 1 John 1:9 (not John, but 1 John over toward the end of your Bible). Read that now. No born again Believer is to run around combating demons. YOU are forgiven, a child of God. YOU don't need olive oil or bathing door posts. There is nothing you can do to add to what Jesus has already done at the Cross. He has set you free, not to chase demons, but to walk in His footsteps. Open your Bible to Acts 9. Read about Saul, who became the Apostle Paul. Read Paul's letters from Romans through Philemon. Paul tells us how to live in the wonder and glory of God's presence.

As a born again Believer, when you sin, you can go before the church simply by walking down the aisle. That's the altar call. The Pastor or a deacon will take your hand. You can share with them that you have sinned. They will pray with you. If they are "on their toes" they will open the Bible to 1 John 1:9. They'll offer other scriptures for you to read --- loving scriptures, not scary misinterpretations of scripture.

Do not think for one second that when you sin you become "unsaved" or lost. When you sin you interrupt fellowship with God. That is restored in 1 John 1:9.

Right now you are leaning to YOUR OWN understanding of what it means to be a Christian. Your soulish nature is distorting God's Word. Get into a Bible study group at a local non-denominational fellowship where Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. In that fellowship they will not speak in tongues, they will not slay in the spirit, they will not cast out demons. All of that was part of the Old Covenant with Jews. It faded out of the picture with the calling of the Apostle Paul on the Damascus Road (Acts 9). Notice in Acts 13 that Paul stopped pleading with the Jews, taking the NEW message of GRACE to Gentiles.

You are in my prayers ---- and I will be happy to tutor you privately.

In the meantime, read this E-Mail, tell God that you trust Him, not what someone has told you about demons.

Be blessed!

 

[parsley]

Matthew 10:8

Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons. Freely you received, freely give.

Mark 9:38-39

John said to Him, "Teacher, we saw someone casting out demons in Your name, and we tried to prevent him because he was not following us." But Jesus said, "Do not hinder him, for there is no one who will perform a miracle in My name, and be able soon afterward to speak evil of Me. For he who is not against us is for us. "

Mark 6:13

And they were casting out many demons and were anointing with oil many sick people and healing them.

Mark 16:17

These signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues...


Standing against demonic oppression for others was not just referring to Jesus, not just the chosen apostles, not just ordained pastors. Jesus assigned it to all who believe. We need each other, and we need the support of trained and experienced believers and leaders. But Jesus showed disciples how they could and should take charge of their faith in order to help others. The disciples were only followers of Jesus for a few years. The gained a lot in that time, and the also ministered to others. Imagine doing that a year after becoming a Christian, and having the respect of townspeople!

 

[damascusroad]

Matthew 10:8

Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons. Freely you received, freely give.

Mark 9:38-39

John said to Him, "Teacher, we saw someone casting out demons in Your name, and we tried to prevent him because he was not following us." But Jesus said, "Do not hinder him, for there is no one who will perform a miracle in My name, and be able soon afterward to speak evil of Me. For he who is not against us is for us. "

Mark 6:13

And they were casting out many demons and were anointing with oil many sick people and healing them.

Mark 16:17

These signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues...

Each scripture is a wonderful example of Jesus teaching His Jewish followers then. Those "believers" believed that Jesus was the promised Jewish Messiah. His followers anticipated the soon arrival of the Kingdom of God on earth. The rejection of Jesus as the promised Messiah on the part of the Jewish leadership and those misled by them resulted in the postponement of what? The Great Tribulation, and later, the Davidic Kingdom of God on earth, centered in Jerusalem.

Each scripture above is not applicable to Christians today and should not be taught as applicable to those who are still seeking Jesus as Savior. Teaching them really muddies the waters for Christians and non-Christians.

 

[LilLamb219]

Altar calls aren't found in scripture.

Why do you think God is judging you because you are still in your sinful body and will STILL sin? He came to earth to die FOR YOU and your sins are forgiven.

There would be evil spirits wanting to convince you to turn away from the triune God. They might want you to keep looking at your sins. They might even want you to look to yourself instead of Christ and the cross.

Why I meant about keeping my mouth closed. Is because, I'm new about fighting against unwanted spirits. I'm under judgement under God right now because I've sinned. If I spoke against the unwanted spirit. I could get hurt. Or it won't do anything.

But I was asking about alter calls. Not, about unwanted spirits. But my church didn't even call me back about that either. I might have to call them tomorrow or see them at church this weekend. Even I don't agree about how this church runs in some areas. But I do know that God has a plan for me too. I need to know how a church runs anyway. Even when it comes to flaws, and there best talents.

 

[damascusroad]

Maybe this is good timing to seek out other churches or mid-week fellowships. God got you this far with this church, but you crave more than they can offer.

It sounds to me like you really need a small home group with people who know about these topics. Ask around in your neighborhood or at work/school.

EXCELLENT approach to helping her!!!

 

[seashale76]

Do an altar call? What? That sounds...vague. The altar (sanctuary) is the space behind the iconostasis screen, where there is the altar table where the eucharist is consecrated. Laypeople generally don't have any valid business to be up there.

If you feel like you need to repent, then go to confession.