Questions, faith, suicide...

[SugarMag]

Greetings all, I am new and didnt really know where to post.
I know this is the non-christian section and I really dont know what I am.
Raised Catholic, still go due to familiarity, wanting (wanted) something more but not getting there. So, with that, hope I am in the right place.

My faith ebbs and flows - does that happen to everyone?
I'm currently in a state of not feeling faith. I think it may be due to the fact that I am really really ****ed that I get a sucky life but I'm not allowed to kill myself. If I don't believe in G-d, then I can kill myself. Get it?

I KNOW many many people have it bad, and that I have good stuff too in my life. It isnt the point. I see no optimism for the future, just more and more of the same blackness I am stuck with now. I dont see a point of enduring my natural life span whatsoever. Is it still the overall opinion that suicide = Hell absolutely?

I have a lot of anger (I think) towards G-d, although generally I'm not that sort of person who believes He owes me anything. All I have around me is people receiving great gifts and praising G-d in gratitude. That is nice. But, I just get more **** dumped on me. I generally believe it is wonderful when you pray sincerely to G-d and he answers you. I'm feeling STRONG resentment that I can't be one of those people who get their prayers answered. Then I realized it is because I'm a total POS and I deserve to suffer. But then I see other POS who call themselves "Christians" yet have zero morals/ethics compared to me who lives by "Do the right thing" yet gifts are bestowed. (I'm not trying to be judgmental so much as to make a point). And, I'm really angry that I can't kill myself.

Anyway, I see no point in continuing my life and I'm thinking I don't have faith anymore (but when I did have it I liked it and being so SURE). I haven't really dont anything different as far as my life. It is just all the same but sometimes I feel it/know it, and other times, it is completely absent. (hasnt been this bad in years and years). Why does it go away? It is disturbing because I don't think it was a conscious or intellectual choice.

If you can get something out my post and respond, I appreciate it.

~Mag

 

[Fuzzy]

Working on the assumptions this isn't a troll, and wroking on the assumption you're
going to read this, and in full knowledge I'm not "supposed" to answer questions in this
forum because I'm not christian, and assuming you're in the United States,
I'm going to say something to you:

Get. Professional. Help.

Call 1-800-784-2433, that's a prevention hotline in the US. check your phone
book or dial information (usually 411) for local counseling options.

 

[WashedClean]

Hi Mag,

Welcome to CF and these forums. I hope you will find some of your questions answered and receive encouragement and most of all, love.

I agree that you probably need professional help. Please don't do anything foolish. God loves you. I know you're feeling far from Him right now, but trust me, He cares!

First of all, faith is not a feeling. We can't trust our feelings because they change. Faith is an act of the will, but it's also a gift from God. I go through times where I feel really close to the Lord, and other times where I don't (usually because of unconfessed sin in my life). If we don't nurture our relationship with God by focusing on prayer and Bible study, we will definitely start to drift away.

Have you ever trusted Jesus as your Lord and Savior? Ever put your life and eternal destiny in His hands? The truth is that none of us deserves heaven. We all require a savior because we owe God a debt we cannot pay for our sins. It doesn't matter if you've told one little lie or murdered a million people. We are all sinners in God's eyes. But the good news is that we can be reconciled to God through faith in Jesus Christ. I would suggest you get a copy of The Passion of the Christ, which just came out on DVD. Watch it, but before you do, ask God to speak to your heart and open your eyes to the truth.

I'm sorry that you are struggling so much and feel alone. Know that there are many of us on here that care and want to help you. God most of all. Do you have a Bible? Read Romans. Most people will tell you to start with the Gospel of John, which is also good. But I prefer Romans as a starting point. Any part of the Bible would be better than not reading it. There are many translations out there now that are not hard to read and it's actually far from boring, give it a try!

Is there a church in your area that you could go to? Maybe a Christian friend that could have you speak with a pastor? You need to reach out before you get more and more depressed. Please don't give up, you are too precious.

If you want to chat more, feel free to send me a private message. Just click on my screen name and select "send WashedClean a private message".

I'm praying for you.

Love,

Jill

 

[DawnTillery]

Am I mistaken that you did admit that when you had faith you liked it and you felt sure about it? God answers prayers, but somtimes not the way we would like him to, because he knows best. I dont know your entire situation, but you did say that you have good things in your life. I know one good thing you can have.. God ...
I only can assume that somewhere along your road in life, something curved you in the wrong direction - Back track and find that spot and start over. YOu must put your faith back in God, pray for the strength you need then it will be taken care of. You must believe that. I suggest for you tonight to call the help numbers listed and if you have a church to find someone that can help you through all this.

 

[Jessica Lauren]

My faith ebbs and flows - does that happen to everyone?
I'm currently in a state of not feeling faith. I think it may be due to the fact that I am really really ****ed that I get a sucky life but I'm not allowed to kill myself. If I don't believe in G-d, then I can kill myself. Get it?

Pray. The answer is always prayer. Put your life in God's hands and everything will be okay. I know, easier said than done right? Not really. Everything happens for a reason. If bad things don't happen, when will we appreciate the good things in life?

I KNOW many many people have it bad, and that I have good stuff too in my life. It isnt the point. I see no optimism for the future, just more and more of the same blackness I am stuck with now. I dont see a point of enduring my natural life span whatsoever. Is it still the overall opinion that suicide = Hell absolutely?

You are not stuck with blackness. Like I said, you need to do something about it. Pray, help yourself, no one can do it for you.

About suicide & hell--

Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which [temple] ye are.
1 Corinthians 3:16-17

I have a lot of anger (I think) towards G-d, although generally I'm not that sort of person who believes He owes me anything. All I have around me is people receiving great gifts and praising G-d in gratitude. That is nice. But, I just get more **** dumped on me. I generally believe it is wonderful when you pray sincerely to G-d and he answers you. I'm feeling STRONG resentment that I can't be one of those people who get their prayers answered. Then I realized it is because I'm a total POS and I deserve to suffer. But then I see other POS who call themselves "Christians" yet have zero morals/ethics compared to me who lives by "Do the right thing" yet gifts are bestowed. (I'm not trying to be judgmental so much as to make a point). And, I'm really angry that I can't kill myself.

"Without suffering there can be no compassion." God brings nothing but love into your life.

Anyway, I see no point in continuing my life and I'm thinking I don't have faith anymore (but when I did have it I liked it and being so SURE). I haven't really dont anything different as far as my life. It is just all the same but sometimes I feel it/know it, and other times, it is completely absent. (hasnt been this bad in years and years). Why does it go away? It is disturbing because I don't think it was a conscious or intellectual choice.

It probably was not something that was conscious. The devil tries to get to anyone who has a bit of faith in God, and try to get them to sway. You have to try and not let yourself be swayed. It's hard I know.

You need to think of the good things that God has given to you. But most importantly, how God has gotten you through the bad things. You're still alive, and although it may not feel like it, things always got better. Every time they got a little better. That was God.

 

[Kristi1]

hiya SugarMag welcome to CF!!!


Suicide hits me very hard because last year my daddy committied it. It hurts to talk about it and I will try my best!

Okay, I was disowned by my daddy back in either 1999 or 2000 for what I have no idea, He would not talk to me anymore.

My daddy had cancer that had spread to his liver and Lou Gehrings at the sametime. My mom and dad had thought the cancer was in remission, it started in his colon area and spread. He was given a month to live when it spread to his liver. Well, February 26th, 2003 came and went, it's the day my daddy had shot himself in the head because of the pain of cancer.

People can be Saved at the last minute and go too Heaven! It's not a pre-thought out manner some people use suicide to end their problems or Issues. I found this article on the web about Christians's and Suicide;


This is from my Website Kristi Ann's Haven;


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Hello Everyone!

I know this is a very sticky subject for some. I am still affected by a very close family member (my daddy) who committed suicide last year in 2003. It hurts tremendoulsy when someone leaves this Earth before we even get too say goodbye, I know the feeling!!

Below is what I found on the internet, Please Remember Everyone ~> "You are NOT Alone!!". There are friends, Family, loved ones, God, and pets, ect.. whom still love us Unconditionally!!


What Does the Bible Say About Suicide?

"Complete Article Here"

by Mercy Aiken

"Do not be a fool--why die before your time?" (Ecclesiastes 7:17b)

Almost everyone would agree that life is the most precious gift that human beings have been given. Just the chance to be alive on this earth and play a part in the grand scheme of God's eternal plan is a privilege indeed. Yet, despite this, there are times when life becomes so difficult or unbearable that many have, at one time or another, wished they were dead or had never been born. For some, these feelings linger--and if they linger long enough, suicide seems to be the only escape. In fact, in the United States (and stats are similar in countries around the world) the suicide rate has tripled among teen and young adults in the past 40 years.

What does the Bible say about suicide? How does God view it? Do all those who kill themselves go to Hell?

Very few would argue with the fact that suicide is a direct breaking of the Sixth Commandment which is, "You shall not murder." We are not to murder each other or ourselves. God created human beings in His image and each of us carries within us the potential to overcome the evil in this world, and to rule and reign with Christ in heavenly places. If we are Christians, we no longer belong to ourselves, but to God. We are overseers of our bodies and our lives (which belong to Him), and we are responsible to guard that which has been entrusted to us.

Suicide is a grievous sin that seriously hurts both the heart of God, and those who loved the deceased. The pain of losing a loved one who took their own life is not easily healed, and often isn't fully healed until Heaven. Whether you are contemplating suicide or know someone who killed themselves, God wants you to know there is hope and life for you. He is the great Healer and Restorer of what has been lost or stolen.

To be continued, see Link above! or Click Here


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Please remember No one is Ever Alone! God Loves you and so do I!!!!


Blessings, \o/

KristiAnn

 

[tbosegarden]

Oh, Honey! I will hold you up in prayer also. To be that down is hard. Please don't do anything foolish and remember God loves you. He knows what you are going through. Only our Lord Jesus Christ can get you through these difficult times. Please pray about your situation. I mean get down on your hands and knees and just worship him. Take your mind off yourself and focus on Him. He will comfort you and He will never leave your side.
Agape,
Jenni

 

[bratchaman]

First of all let me say that even after I became a Christian there was a time when I felt my whole world was covered in darkness and that no amount of help could pull me out. Secondly, let me say that I was completely wrong because with little work God raised me up as his son. Since then I have read with understanding the gospels and many other books in the bible and have a greater understanding of God and his will.
We all have hard times. Most are caused by our own lack of faith or trust even if we don't do it intentionally or conciously. When I was struggling with my "unfair" hard times I wondered why all this was happening to me. I cursed and cursed with great vigor against my fate. What really turned me around was reading and thinking about Jesus' life here on earth.
Jesus lived a life of hardships and stife and yet he died willingly for our sins. He never sinned himself and taught us to love one another. If he can go through all these things and no sin or give up, then I can only strive, hope, and pray to live close to how he did. This really changed my faith in God and Jesus and led me back to him. I hope this isn't too much of a personal testimony but I felt I could empathize more if I told you of my own hardships.
Now my life is renewed in Christ, like my faith. And, although daily struggles persist, I forever know he is there for me and truly will answer my faithfull prayers. Amen.

 

[stray bullet]

SugarMag, I've been there. I've suffered with depression to the point of sincerely believing there was no point in life and I'd never feel differently. I was certain my feelings were correct on this and there really wasn't any purpose in life.

These are not true feelings. The problem is a chemical imbalance that many of us suffer from, sometimes for long periods of time. This causes us to rationalize our feelings and believe them to be true.

I can tell you now I see that life is worth living and implore you to seek medication to fix this imbalance if it doesn't go away. I know that isn't easy and probably doesn't make sense to you. I thought medication was pointless because I saw the reality of the world, I wasn't though.

I only went to mass here and there, but now I go every Sunday and will soon be going to my parish twice a week.

Life is a ton of fun, unfortunately you may not be able to see that and I understand what that's like. However, you can and will get better.

 

[Serapha]

Hi there!






Faltering faith is not failed faith, and God would still be waiting to hear from you.


You are someone precious to God, and you were given life for a purpose. You seem to be wondering "what purpose," when only God can answer that question.


If you want the answers, then you will have to take the initiative to reach out to God... either through His Word, through talking to Him in prayer, or by someone interceeding for you... many here have already posted that they are interceeding for you... so be comforted in knowing that not only does God care, but people care about you also.



"Let not your heart be troubled...." Talk to God and cast all your cares upon him. I will be interceeding for you also in prayer.


~serapha~

 

[Catholic Evangelist]

Greetings from a fellow catholic. If you want to discuss this with other Catholics (without getting proselytized in the process) go to One Bread One Body- under the "Christians Only" section, and open a thread there. Youll be very welcome there

 

[Vigil]

Working on the assumptions this isn't a troll, and wroking on the assumption you're
going to read this, and in full knowledge I'm not "supposed" to answer questions in this
forum because I'm not christian, and assuming you're in the United States,
I'm going to say something to you:

Get. Professional. Help.

Call 1-800-784-2433, that's a prevention hotline in the US. check your phone
book or dial information (usually 411) for local counseling options.

I agree with what this person said.

Vigil.

 

[SugarMag]

Thank you all who replied. I don't appreciate being called a troll but whatever.

As far as professional help, I think that is a lame answer with no understanding. And if you think talk therapy and meds actually work for 100% of the people you are mistaken. Plus, you don't even know what illnesses I carry.

For those who've lost loved ones to suicide, I am very sorry to hear of your heavy heart. My sister killed herself in 1993 and I understand your pain. I cannot imagine what it is like to lose a parent though, I'm sure it is not the same. I saw what it did to my parents though, so I have a good understanding, even if I haven't been in your shoes directly.

Sorry I posted in the wrong forum. Of all the Christians I've known over the years, Catholics are not considered Christians from what they tell me. I assume you consider all Jesus religions Christian then here?

Thank you references as well. I am not very educated in the book and have had no success in finding appropriate classes, church, etc. I enjoy this forum for I'm learning a whole bunch of useful stuff. I'm afraid to post replies because you all are much more in the know than me. I remember the gist often, but would be afraid to post here with such vagueness.

 

[Catholic Evangelist]

Sorry I posted in the wrong forum. Of all the Christians I've known over the years, Catholics are not considered Christians from what they tell me. I assume you consider all Jesus religions Christian then here?

Catholics are Christians. Whoever told you this is wrong.

 

[wayfaring man]

Hi SugarMag ,

Please don't let theological debating and to your dismay .

A Christian is as a Christian does .

Jesus said , We shall Know a person by their fruits .

Tree is to type of fruit , as person is to type of influence .

What type of thinking / behavior do we stimulate / inspire in others ?

With the testimony of Jesus being the standard , by which all others are measured .

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But , with regard to your suicidal tendencies .

I too was suicidal for a time .

All that people said to me seemed insignificant , or phony .

But , there is one distinct advantage in feeling that your life has become undesirable to the point of not even wanting to continue .

It is the time of making unrestrained vows .

Which is what happened to me , and I pray will happen to you .

For in my darkest hour , a little light shone into my life , and that light was the hope that The Lord , who is abve all others , could take my shambles of a life and somehow salvage it , for good .

So without thinking about it too much , I said to the Lord , " Lord , as far as I'm concerned , my life is over , I don't even want to live ! But , if there is anything left of my life , you can have it Lord , and do with it whatever you want to with it . "

That was well over 20 years ago , and from that time , I've had some very extreme moments , but none which led to feeling suicidal , because , what's been salvaged from that time is no longer mine , but His to whom I freely gave it .

It may surprise you , that all those pretenders , which you spoke of ... you know what they're missing ? That self-same level of avowing their life into the Lord's hands : which seems to only occur readily when we have become so low that the only thing we feel like doing - is dying .

Well , that's exactly what serving the Lord acceptably requires .

As long as I feel this is life " my life " and this body is " my body " , my general disposition is already conflicting with our Saviour's Lordship .

I encourage you , to call upon the Name Of Jesus , and vow , as only one who has given up on themself can !

Your life will turn around , things will improve , and if ever we start acting like , we can take our life back over , ( now that it has been so vastly improved ); the Lord will remind us of the vow we have made , in one way or another , and then we will once again , be set upon the path , wherein , He does the works , and we are effectually changed from the inside out , with nothing left in reserve , for all has been committed unto Him who can Save to the uttermost !

Truly , what is conventionally thought of as a curse , does the Lord turn around to be the greatest of Blessings !

I will go into thy house with burnt offerings: I will pay thee my vows,
Which my lips have uttered, and my mouth hath spoken, when I was in trouble. <-----> Psalm 66:13+14


1: O give thanks unto the LORD, for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever.
2: Let the redeemed of the LORD say so, whom he hath redeemed from the hand of the enemy;
3: And gathered them out of the lands, from the east, and from the west, from the north, and from the south.
4: They wandered in the wilderness in a solitary way; they found no city to dwell in.
5: Hungry and thirsty, their soul fainted in them.
6: Then they cried unto the LORD in their trouble, and he delivered them out of their distresses.
7: And he led them forth by the right way, that they might go to a city of habitation.
8: Oh that men would praise the LORD for his goodness, and for his wonderful works to the children of men!
9: For he satisfieth the longing soul, and filleth the hungry soul with goodness.
10: Such as sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, being bound in affliction and iron;
11: Because they rebelled against the words of God, and contemned the counsel of the most High:
12: Therefore he brought down their heart with labour; they fell down, and there was none to help.
13: Then they cried unto the LORD in their trouble, and he saved them out of their distresses.
14: He brought them out of darkness and the shadow of death, and brake their bands in sunder.
15: Oh that men would praise the LORD for his goodness, and for his wonderful works to the children of men!
16: For he hath broken the gates of brass, and cut the bars of iron in sunder.
17: Fools because of their transgression, and because of their iniquities, are afflicted.
18: Their soul abhorreth all manner of meat; and they draw near unto the gates of death.
19: Then they cry unto the LORD in their trouble, and he saveth them out of their distresses.
20: He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions.
21: Oh that men would praise the LORD for his goodness, and for his wonderful works to the children of men!
22: And let them sacrifice the sacrifices of thanksgiving, and declare his works with rejoicing.
23: They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters;
24: These see the works of the LORD, and his wonders in the deep.
25: For he commandeth, and raiseth the stormy wind, which lifteth up the waves thereof.
26: They mount up to the heaven, they go down again to the depths: their soul is melted because of trouble.
27: They reel to and fro, and stagger like a drunken man, and are at their wits' end.
28: Then they cry unto the LORD in their trouble, and he bringeth them out of their distresses.
29: He maketh the storm a calm, so that the waves thereof are still.
30: Then are they glad because they be quiet; so he bringeth them unto their desired haven.
31: Oh that men would praise the LORD for his goodness, and for his wonderful works to the children of men!
32: Let them exalt him also in the congregation of the people, and praise him in the assembly of the elders.
33: He turneth rivers into a wilderness, and the watersprings into dry ground;
34: A fruitful land into barrenness, for the wickedness of them that dwell therein.
35: He turneth the wilderness into a standing water, and dry ground into watersprings.
36: And there he maketh the hungry to dwell, that they may prepare a city for habitation;
37: And sow the fields, and plant vineyards, which may yield fruits of increase.
38: He blesseth them also, so that they are multiplied greatly; and suffereth not their cattle to decrease.
39: Again, they are minished and brought low through oppression, affliction, and sorrow.
40: He poureth contempt upon princes, and causeth them to wander in the wilderness, where there is no way.
41: Yet setteth he the poor on high from affliction, and maketh him families like a flock.
42: The righteous shall see it, and rejoice: and all iniquity shall stop her mouth.
43: Whoso is wise, and will observe these things, even they shall understand the lovingkindness of the LORD. <-----> Psalm 107

May The Lord Be Pleased To Bless .

wm

 

[wayfaring man]

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. <-----> Luke 14:26

He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. <----> John 12:25

These verses also testify , that being thoroughly disatisfied with our earthly , mortal life is a prerequisite for serving the Lord acceptably .

As The Apostle Paul also bore witness :


Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
And now, behold, I go bound in the spirit unto Jerusalem, not knowing the things that shall befall me there:
Save that the Holy Ghost witnesseth in every city, saying that bonds and afflictions abide me.
But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God. <-----> Acts 20:21-24

If death is so inviting , I urge you to die to self/sin where the Lord's honorable are found , instead of ending your life on a spiritually negative note : for no matter how much this life seems unbearable , consider , it's not nearly as undesirable as dying in sin , which we did not repent of .

For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion. <-----> Ecclesiastes 9:4

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. <-----> Galatians 2:20

May The Lord Be Pleased To Bless.[ x 7 ]

wm

 

[SugarMag]

These verses also testify , that being thoroughly disatisfied with our earthly , mortal life is a prerequisite for serving the Lord acceptably .

Wayfaringman - I appreciate your posts. The quote regarding this really hit home. I believed I already went thru that (9 years ago) but time marches on and I get dissatisfied. My only purpose seems to be to have a pointless life with pain and illnesses which ruin my life but won't kill me. I rarely ask G-d for anything because I have everything I technically need (in a physical realm). I was just fine and upbeat accepting that I obviously will never have kids or a husband or be absent of ill health. It bottomed out however, and the pain of MS makes each day unbearable. I'm shocked I've been able to keep working and feeding myself day after day. Now that I see a crappy future and so many others asking G-d for things and *poof* it arrives and "Bless be to G-d" all over the place I'm having trouble not receiving. And it will just be more of the same as the years go by.

Someone mentioned about thinking how Jesus suffered. I totally get that. The thing is though, for those out there really really suffering - I'd welcome it, because it would be a distraction. When things are relatively good, the things that arent technically necessary take on a bigger life.

I've been reading the forum and I see other's struggles. And I hear G-d has a plan, so you suffer this and that. I'm just not seeing it. Nothing seems that great to be sitting around and waiting to see what is so great about living the life. (This ties in to faith's ebb and flow).

 

[wayfaring man]

Dear Sugarmag ,

I pray Jesus will strenghten and comfort you , and deliver you from all that oppresses you .

It can indeed seem pointless for certain kinds of suffering to go on and on .

Yet , the rich man and Lazarus comes to mind .

There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. <-----> Luke 16:19-31

Yet , by this I do not mean you should necessarily resign yourself to a life of illness ; for we have been witnessed to of Christ's power to heal and deliver .

And I'm sure you have sought these very things much .

Yet , when our liberty from hardship is not granted ; we ought not give up seeking The Lord's Grace , for we still need His help to endure , what cannot yet be overcome .

What has not been overcome , must be endured .

Enduring until the end , is overcoming : ( in one of the greatest ways possible ).

And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved . <-----> Matthew 24:12+13

Furthermore , we are told that ,

... The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much. <---> From James 5:16

And :

By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. <-----> 1st John 5:2

The plight of a believer such as yourself , is a witness to us all ; that a casual belief in Christ , which " matter of factly " allows for falling short and sinning against what God has commanded us , is a very great travesty of faith .

Would you , and all who are terribly afflicted , join together , and pray , that The Lord would raise up among us , brothers and sisters who will be filled with genuine love for others , and who will thereby trust and obey The Lord continually and consistently , so that our prayers for the healing and deliverance of others , who are in such dire need , will be greatly more empowered . For I perceive this may indeed cause a blessed chain reaction , wherein the body of Christ , is cleansed of it's defilements and disease .

For this employs charity and mutual caring into our prayers , with the priority of seeking the wealth of others before our own , trusting in The Lord , that such will also lead to our salvation .

Remember , without charity , we are nothing . ( See 1st Corinthians Ch 13 )

Let no man seek his own, but every man another's wealth. <-----> 1st Corinthians 10:24

I myself , and others like me , do really need your prayers in this matter .

For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ . <-----> Philippians 1:19

Ye also helping together by prayer for us, that for the gift bestowed upon us by the means of many persons thanks may be given by many on our behalf. <-----> 2nd Corinthians 1:11

Those who are afflicted and restricted from doing many things , are more able to devote themselves to fervent prayer . Surely , you've done much praying already ; yet , I entreat that this emphasis towards praying be embraced by you , in renewed fashion .

And it is written of The Lord -

For thou wilt save the afflicted people; but wilt bring down high looks. <-----> Psalm 18:27

And charity along with our faith is the key to unlocking the power of God .

Let all your things be done with charity. <-----> 1st Corinthians 16:14

And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins. <-----> 1st Peter 4:8

And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. <-----> Colossians 3:14

Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned . <-----> 1st Timothy 1:5

I realize you've likely had your hopes up before , only to feel let down .

But give this as much a try as you can muster with God's help .

We often cannot forsee exactly how God's blessings will occur ; yet we can be assured that when we harmonize , as much as we are enabled , with His revealed will for us in Christ , good things do and will happen .

May The Lord Be Our Saviour , Be Pleased To Bless .

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