Questions and Answers

[Spiritual Jew]

The gospel of the kingdom always require works to show faith. (James 2:24)

Jesus never preached faith alone for salvation during his first coming to the nation of Israel (Matthew 5:17-19)

No one ever has or ever will be saved by their works. Salvation is by God's grace through faith and not by works (Ephesians 2:8-9). Period. Yes, our works show our faith, but that doesn't mean our works save us. Ephesians 2:10 says that good works are prepared for those who are saved by grace through faith. So, the good works come after we are saved. If our works saved us then we wouldn't need Jesus and His work on the cross to save us. You have no idea of what you're saying here and how insulting it is to the work of Christ on the cross.

Matthew 5:17-19 does not teach that works are required for salvation. Where are you getting that from?

Matthew 5:17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Notice that Jesus talks about someone breaking one of the least of the commandments while teaching others to do so "shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven". He didn't say they would not be in the kingdom of heaven at all. He said they would be called least in the kingdom of heaven. If they have faith, then they are still in the kingdom of heaven, but if they think it's okay to break one of the least of the commandments while also teaching others to do so, will have a lowly position in the kingdom of heaven.

There is only one gospel! Your belief in more than one gospel is a doctrine of demons.

Galatians 1:6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

 

[Guojing]

No one ever has or ever will be saved by their works.

When I said works are required to show faith, that is not the same as saying one is "saved by their works".

You have no idea of what you're saying here and how insulting it is to the work of Christ on the cross.

You should have told James that, after he wrote James 2:24.

Strange you are now using Pauline epistles to talk about OSAS to the Body of Christ, when you were against that same claim of mine, in another thread.