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Around at the time of the most recent common ancestor between humans and flatworms.
Seriously, why comment if you aren't following the conversation. Geez...
Every species that was around then is now extinct!
In and of itself, nothing. When someone wants to teach kids that a few flatworms having sex long long ago is why humans exist, we have a problem.What's wrong with flatworm sex?
Yes, and Europeans still exist, even though I'm now in America instead of Europe. Just as "funny".
There is no Godless evolution. God USED evolution.
In and of itself, nothing. When someone wants to teach kids that a few flatworms having sex long long ago is why humans exist, we have a problem.
I see you didn't challenge the two other evos who admitted flatworm sex was how humans got here!!!
Getting on a plane is not the same as having a bug start a birthing chain that produced mankind itself!
He used it in Eden, and used it in the former state, where it happened real fast. Even now, in this state, creation adapts and evolves slowly, and the best way it can. Long as you do not mean God used flatworms copulating to produce Adam and Eve!!! (over a succession of imagined intermediate links)
Man's belief based ideas of what we see are not what God revealed! Stars we do see...the space and time they exist in as being the same we do not see, you just use that to make unbiblical claims.You shouldn't go telling God what He did or didn't do. Instead, you should trust the word of God revealed in the stars, the rocks, and the genomes.
What's wrong with flatworm sex?
Yes, and Europeans still exist, even though I'm now in America instead of Europe. Just as "funny".
There is no Godless evolution. God USED evolution.
Thank-you for clarifying.
Sorry for asking...Geeez
What about the sea sponge?
How would we know all the sorts of flatworms that lived?
?? Crazy talk. Just because only so many types may be found in the fossil record does not mean that is all there were. Perhaps worms are not the best thing to expect to find fossilized?
You confirmed that evolution believers really think they owe their lives to flatworm sex! What more could I ask for?
Chilling.
One article I read mentioned they were the same basically. But if you have some evidence that whatever fossils we have are all very different than any flatworm alive today, do present it. Funny that flatworms still exist...those 'ancestors' that you think you came from!
Creation was made like that. Doesn't help your belief system at all.
You forget your belief system uses purely imaginary time. Basically the flatworm fossils do not show some great difference now do they? Flatworms existed, and they still exist. You just believe real hard that some of the earlier ones that has sex resulted in you! Snap out of it woman.
Man is a kind. Not flatworms or apes, or eels. Not even bananas!
There have always been differences when a woman reproduced! You thought we were clones??
If water smells bad, and there are dead things around it, it is a warning. God's creation is generally beautiful..stars, plants, ocean, animals, birds, mountains, etc.
Godless evolution is gross and ugly.
Assertion based on ignorance. We do not have hundreds of species of flatworms fossilized do we? How then, would you know what is a different species? Either you know, or you don't.So you admit there are many different species of flatworm. I take this as an admission of my point, that the flatworms we have today are NOT the same as the common ancestor between modern Humans and modern Flatworms.
How would you know how many species of flatworms existed? That is crazy. Don't let me confuse you with the facts.My point remains. The common ancestor was NOT any species we have alive today.
You already fessed up. What is this, a regression? Once again class, if as science claims, (foolishly as usual) the flatworm was a common ancestor, and indeed even the oldest common ancestor still alive today, how could it be that you claim it was NOT an ancestor! You must be true to your religion!Ahem, how many times do I have to make this clear. Not flatworm sex. "Common ancestor of both modern humans and modern flatworms" sex.
Oh great, now you seem to be admitting flatworm sex resulted in YOU again!And I have NEVER denied that humans are the result of sex between members of earlier species, have I? Are you having fun playing with your straw man?
False. Your dark belief system imposes itself onto the evidence in a rude way, but there is not the smallest speck of evidence for what you claim standing alone.The case for evolution over billions of years is well supported with actual evidence.
The point IS that you believe you are a direct result of flatworms having sex!!!! (they produced offspring which kept evolving on up to you)First of all, you are trying to muddy the issue because you are incapable of responding to the point.
You need to do more than wave like a bangee to make the bible go away. You have no proof that the state of the past was as you claim, so we best go with God on that.Secondly, the only thing imaginary is your idea of a different state past.
This is not a valid definition. Please explain how I can determine if two different animals are the same kind or not.
Notice that two flatworms were involved also? I think we know the basics of reproduction here. Why try to blow smoke?Obviously not, because I said we were different, didn't I? (BTW, it wasn't me that reproduced, it was me and my husband. It took two of us. Perhaps you need to take a remedial biology class). You love arguing your strawmen, don't you?
So bad water can't exist in God's creation? And I can name lots of things that you would call God's creation that are disgusting. Ichneumon wasps, for example.
So it doesn't meet with your approval, but remember, reality doesn't care about whether you approve or not.
Assertion based on ignorance. We do not have hundreds of species of flatworms fossilized do we? How then, would you know what is a different species? Either you know, or you don't.
How would you know how many species of flatworms existed? That is crazy. Don't let me confuse you with the facts.
You already fessed up. What is this, a regression? Once again class, if as science claims, (foolishly as usual) the flatworm was a common ancestor, and indeed even the oldest common ancestor still alive today, how could it be that you claim it was NOT an ancestor! You must be true to your religion!
Oh great, now you seem to be admitting flatworm sex resulted in YOU again!
False. Your dark belief system imposes itself onto the evidence in a rude way, but there is not the smallest speck of evidence for what you claim standing alone.
The point IS that you believe you are a direct result of flatworms having sex!!!! (they produced offspring which kept evolving on up to you)
You need to do more than wave like a bangee to make the bible go away. You have no proof that the state of the past was as you claim, so we best go with God on that.
You can't. Except in the case of mankind, we know we are a kind. The ineptness of science to be able to go through time and observe what the kinds were in NO way diminishes the importance or reality of the created kinds!
Notice that two flatworms were involved also? I think we know the basics of reproduction here. Why try to blow smoke?
Some adaptations of creatures are pretty brutal, but overall, the balance of nature is amazing, and contains incredible beauty. It has to, since He approved it!
No. I am telling you you were wrong about the old ages. I am also pointing out that you have no clue what spectrum of flatworm species existed in early earth times.So you are telling me that a life form half a billio0n years ago would remain completely unchanged, despite the different environment, different temperatures and different oxygen levels it would have faced throughout that time...
That depends, can you fond one to post for you!?Having fun twisting my words there? Do you know how to discuss things like an adult?
I look at what you post...I see no evidence. What more could I ask!?Since you obviously have no idea what actual evidence is (having never presented any yourself), how would you know what is evidence or not?
Forget earlier. Flatworms having sex and resulting in you is the current focus here! You still admit that!?Excuse me: I said earlier species, didn't I? Don't twist my words. You are lying to support your own agenda.
How would man kind be meaningless? What is meaningless is to pretend science could go back in time and observe the created kinds. Science can't observe it's way out of a present state paper bag!So the term "kind" is completely meaningless. When you base your case on meaningless words, your case is worthless.
We see your logic here. You claim you are the resulyt of sex between worms!!! Think about it. You may renounce your evo belief system here. I might go easier on you!Glad you know the basics of reproduction. You still have to learn the basics of evolution, of science, and of logic.
Oh? So forget stars? Forget sex? Forget the moon? Forget the balance of nature? Forget hummingbirds? etc? You want to claim that adaptation and evolving is the epitome of beauty? You think worms copulating is the most beautiful thing?? Get a grip woman.And evolution is the most beautiful part of nature.
No. I am telling you you were wrong about the old ages. I am also pointing out that you have no clue what spectrum of flatworm species existed in early earth times.
That depends, can you fond one to post for you!?
I look at what you post...I see no evidence. What more could I ask!?
Forget earlier. Flatworms having sex and resulting in you is the current focus here! You still admit that!?
How would man kind be meaningless? What is meaningless is to pretend science could go back in time and observe the created kinds. Science can't observe it's way out of a present state paper bag!
We see your logic here. You claim you are the resulyt of sex between worms!!! Think about it. You may renounce your evo belief system here. I might go easier on you!
Oh? So forget stars? Forget sex? Forget the moon? Forget the balance of nature? Forget hummingbirds? etc? You want to claim that adaptation and evolving is the epitome of beauty? You think worms copulating is the most beautiful thing?? Get a grip woman.
Reality tells me more about the past than you ever can,
Obviously are on such good speaking terms with 'reality', anything it tells you to dismiss can be dismissed! Feel no obligation to offer proof of any kind. Your chats with reality suffice.so I think it's safe to dismiss your ideas about the past as false.
Excellent! The cease and desist all claims they were or were not!Also, I don't need to know the genetic code of ancient worms to know they were different.
I think you admitted you think reality involves that you are a result of sex between flatworms billions of years ago. Correct? Just as PshcoSarah has admitted.Will you stop twisting my words? I have made it abundantly clear what I have been saying, and the only possible reason for you to keep doing this is because you are deliberately trying to misrepresent me.
No idea what that is supposed to mean. Are you claiming flatworms are not your ancestor as science claims now?I said EARLIER SPECIES. The common ancestor of modern Humans and modern flatworms. How many times do I need to say this?
They are birds. A raven was a kind and a dove. A complete list was not given, and science has no ability to determine what was what...it is too steeped in godless religion!The definition of "kind" is meaningless. By your own admission, if I show you a sparrow and a hawk you can't tell me if they are in the same kind or not.
"These things"? Ancestor reproduction? Your chats with reality.. or??You mean this is you going hard on me? Please, that's a laugh. You still haven't learnt any of those things, have you?
So there is some euphoric bliss to surrendering to the belief of godless evolving? No thanks.Oh, I'm so sorry I don't view the world the same way as you. That is something for which I am eternally grateful. Yes, I do think evolution is beautiful. Not the only beautiful thing, but it has a great deal of beauty. If you actually knew what evolution was instead of this crazy idea you have, then you'd see it too.
No? Why not, you just called me blind! You find being called woman an insult? Yet you find the thought of coming from flatworms having sex just honky dory!?But don't insult me because you are blind, okay?
And I've told you: Don't call me woman.
No problem, keep us informed of the communications 'reality' makes with you! Whether they be voices, inner feelings, phone calls, etc.
Obviously are on such good speaking terms with 'reality', anything it tells you to dismiss can be dismissed! Feel no obligation to offer proof of any kind. Your chats with reality suffice.
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Perhaps you can record a chat with this 'reality', and we can listen to it!? Meanwhile, since no proof and evidence for the fundamentals of your claims on a timeline can be provided here, any claims that you are on speaking terms with reality must be taken with a grain of salt.Please rest assured we will never accuse you of listening to reality.
Perhaps you can record a chat with this 'reality', and we can listen to it!? Meanwhile, since no proof and evidence for the fundamentals of your claims on a timeline can be provided here, any claims that you are on speaking terms with reality must be taken with a grain of salt.
When your reality includes coming from flatworms having sex, all I can do is laugh.
No problem, keep us informed of the communications 'reality' makes with you! Whether they be voices, inner feelings, phone calls, etc.
Obviously are on such good speaking terms with 'reality', anything it tells you to dismiss can be dismissed! Feel no obligation to offer proof of any kind. Your chats with reality suffice.
Excellent! The cease and desist all claims they were or were not!
I think you admitted you think reality involves that you are a result of sex between flatworms billions of years ago. Correct? Just as PshcoSarah has admitted.
No idea what that is supposed to mean. Are you claiming flatworms are not your ancestor as science claims now?
They are birds. A raven was a kind and a dove. A complete list was not given, and science has no ability to determine what was what...it is too steeped in godless religion!
"These things"? Ancestor reproduction? Your chats with reality.. or??
So there is some euphoric bliss to surrendering to the belief of godless evolving? No thanks.
No? Why not, you just called me blind! You find being called woman an insult? Yet you find the thought of coming from flatworms having sex just honky dory!?
Well it isn't as if we were born directly from flatworms, that way back hundreds of millions of years we had a flatworm ancestor isn't far fetched when you analyze all the species and evolution which occurred between then and now.
You can't prove it in any way and admit this, but 'just know' genetics were a certain way anyhow!!?? Do not dare call that science!I still know they were different.
Humans are the result of sex between previous species that were ancestral to Humans.
Hey, no one questions whether flatworms do the wild thing. The issue is your claim that this resulted in you!Perhaps you know of a way to create offspring that does not involve sex?
So a raven and a dove are two different kinds. But are a sparrow and a finch the same kind or different kinds?
Ecuse me - you are the one demanding that reality be whatever you find most blissful.
And I find that when you call me "woman" you are reducing me to my gender, which comes across as very dismissive.
So I am asking you to respect my wishes and not call me that.
I try to reciprocate to some degree. That OK with you?You are capable of showing respect, aren't you?
So flatworms having sex are responsible for all human beings existing! How puny.
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