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Jenda quote:

Love the Lord, your God, with all your heart, might, mind and strength
Love one another as I have loved you
Baptisms (as spoken of by Christ (and Paul))

These are in the Bible. I prolly should have asked "about a specific list of plain and precious parts" left out of the Bible.

I am not allowed to answer that question on this board.

Huh??

I did not want you to think that I am ignoring it.

Heaven forbid I would think that....;)

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daneel said:
Huh??
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Rule 2.3 under No Trolling
2.3 You will not post anything that puts down or belittles any Christian group or denomination.
 
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Deren said:
Maxster, when you make stuff up, that is one of the reasons why the Mormons laugh in derision at Christians when it comes to discussing this subject. May I suggest that you trash your Midnight Call article and do some real research for a change. For the non-sense you've just posted plays right into the hands of the Mormons, which will be used against Christians in their proselyting efforts.

Thank you for the critical suport. I will say in the Magazines defense, however, that some of what it says is correct, and it isn't all writen by the same person. But I agree now, that I have done a little more research, that what I said is a little fantasy tale that the person probably made up.
 
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gallykid08 said:
mormonism....erm...can i be really blunt? no offense to anybody but it's bs :sorry: . I did a bunch of research on it.

Just out of curiousity: Did your research include a reading the Book of Mormon? If so, what is your opinion of King Benjamin's address as found in Mosiah 2-5?

I personally have found the Book of Mormon to be widely criticised by people who have never bothered to read it.
 
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Swart said:
Just out of curiousity: Did your research include a reading the Book of Mormon? If so, what is your opinion of King Benjamin's address as found in Mosiah 2-5?

I personally have found the Book of Mormon to be widely criticised by people who have never bothered to read it.

I think the Messianic prophecy of chapter 3 [supposedly written ca, BC 130]

5 For behold, the time cometh, and is not far distant, that with power, the Lord Omnipotent who reigneth, who was, and is from all eternity to all eternity, shall come down from heaven among the children of men, and shall dwell in a tabernacle of clay, and shall go forth amongst men, working mighty miracles, such as healing the sick, raising the dead, causing the lame to walk, the blind to receive their sight, and the deaf to hear, and curing all manner of diseases.
6 And he shall cast out devils, or the evil spirits which dwell in the hearts of the children of men.
7 And lo, he shall suffer temptations, and pain of body, hunger, thirst, and fatigue, even more than man can suffer, except it be unto death; for behold, blood cometh from every pore, so great shall be his anguish for the wickedness and the abominations of his people.
8 And he shall be called Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Father of heaven and earth, the Creator of all things from the beginning; and his mother shall be called Mary.
9 And lo, he cometh unto his own, that salvation might come unto the children of men even through faith on his name; and even after all this they shall consider him a man, and say that he hath a devil, and shall scourge him, and shall crucify him.
10 And he shall arise the third day from the dead; and behold, he standeth to judge the world; and behold, all these things are done that a righteous judgment might come upon the children of men.
11 For behold, and also his blood atoneth for the sins of those who have fallen by the transgression of Adam, who have died not knowing the will of God concerning them, or who have ignorantly sinned.

is way more precise than than ANY canonical Messianic prophecy and reads like one who read the gospels first and then crafted a prophecy.

Are there any copies of this prophecy outside the BoM? ANY MANUSCRIPT evidence WHATSOEVER?

When was Jesus called the Father of Heaven (except Mosiah)?

And note at the end of the quote the two added groups:

[1] who have died not knowing the will of God concerning them
[2] or who have ignorantly sinned

Seems like [1] is laying a foundation for LDS postmortal gospel preachin and [2] for LDS accountability only after age 8.

This passage alone casts doubt on the BoM's authenticity.


Lo, waseth that what thou was't looking for?

~ NEHI (It's easy to write prophecy after the fact!)

What do you think of this utterance....

"Verily I sayeth to you that a looking glass will become a peep stone and a 'Reformed Eyptian' funery notice will bring forth a new priesthood of the God who resides nigh unto Kolob." -- ca. 1815 (Utterred by Nehi's great, great, great grandfather -- Mehi)
 
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Nehi said:
I think the Messianic prophecy of chapter 3 [supposedly written ca, BC 130]

is way more precise than than ANY canonical Messianic prophecy and reads like one who read the gospels first and then crafted a prophecy.

Are there any copies of this prophecy outside the BoM? ANY MANUSCRIPT evidence WHATSOEVER?
What constitutes evidence? Serapha is looking for a sign that says "Lehi slept here". Is that what you are looking for? Are you looking for a buried treasure trove of plates with strange hieroglyphics on them that no one can read?

Just curious.

And note at the end of the quote the two added groups:

[1] who have died not knowing the will of God concerning them
[2] or who have ignorantly sinned

Seems like [1] is laying a foundation for LDS postmortal gospel preachin and [2] for LDS accountability only after age 8.

This passage alone casts doubt on the BoM's authenticity.

~ NEHI (It's easy to write prophecy after the fact!)
Maybe this is fodder for another thread, but what is it with the age of accountability thing? Is any person held accountable for their actions before they come to Christ? We are all sinners, and only by the grace of God are we cleansed when we respond to the call God places on our hearts.

Getting baptized at age 8 doesn't mean one has come to Christ (any more than infants who are baptized have come to Christ (but I don't see anyone picking on that practice)), it means that that is when they begin to really understand the difference between right and wrong, and can choose the right.

Jenda (who is confused by all the fuss)
 
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gallykid08 said:
"The OT says that only the descendants of Levi could be priests (Numbers 3:9-10) however the book of mormon says that descendants of the tribe of Manassah (alma 10:3) would be made priests (2 Nephi 5:26)
there were others who were not of Levi that were priests -- oh, say, Jesus, for example"

Jesus wasnt a priest. he did not serve as a priest. in fact, most priests rejected him.

I covered this and all your other queries in my "Contradictions between the Bible and the BOM thread" in exactly the same order you have given. Perhaps they were cut-and-paste from the same anti-mormon website?

You know, if you really want to do some research, you need to do some research, Throwing mud to see what sticks is hardly scholarly.

Tell you what. Pick your ten best objections and if you agree to unite with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints through baptism if I refute all of them, I'll gladly answer them once more!
 
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