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Questions about conjoined twins

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Is this part of God's plan? Are we talking about one soul or two in conjoined twins? If two, is it possible that one can go to heaven and the other to hell? If the rapture occurs, what happens to conjoined twins, where one mind accepts salvation and the other does not? Is it God's plan for human intervention, (ie medical science to separate them)? If so, what happened hundreds or thousands of years ago when there was nothing in medical science to separate them?
 

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Is this part of God's plan?

Sure.

Are we talking about one soul or two in conjoined twins?

Two, unless one never developed a brain/mind and is just a bunch of extra limbs or something.

If two, is it possible that one can go to heaven and the other to hell?

I subscribe to a non-traditionalist view of Hell, but yes, their fate in the afterlife could be different.

If the rapture occurs, what happens to conjoined twins, where one mind accepts salvation and the other does not?

The 'rapture' concept is Unbiblical and I don't accept it.

Is it God's plan for human intervention, (ie medical science to separate them)?

Perhaps.

If so, what happened hundreds or thousands of years ago when there was nothing in medical science to separate them?

They lived like that, connected? Seems kind of obvious.
 
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Two heads -- two minds -- two persons.

If one died, it is no different from the death of a person/baby.

Do you understand the theology of an infant who died? It is the same case.
 
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If doctors separate conjoined twins, are they playing God by messing with God's creation?

Originally man and God were "co-joined."

Adam didn't like the situation, and as a
result, man was from that point on
destined to surely die.

And the kids don't all turn out well
thanks to Adam's choice.
 
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Ben Carson separated conjoined twins. Was it a blessing or a curse that he did so?

Thank you kindly.

If both were alive, then he is blessed. If one died, he might be cursed as a murderer.

It would be a different story if a twin is endangered on their lives before separation. It would be similar to do operation on a sick child. If the child died, the doctor should not be cursed.
 
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Yes, they survived. They were both joined at the tops of their heads.

Thank you kindly.
 
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Yes, they survived. They were both joined at the tops of their heads.

Thank you kindly.

Good for them.

If I were a doctor, I won't mess with the separation unless there is a good medical reason to do that. God creates everything (ugly or beautiful according to our views) with a good reason.
 
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If doctors separate conjoined twins, are they playing God by messing with God's creation?
No, that's not how God created man originally, it's a result of the fall that sickness came in. Otherwise they were also playing God by giving someone medicine.
 
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If doctors separate conjoined twins, are they playing God by messing with God's creation?

The separating of conjoined twins is very complex with many, many, MRI's, X-rays, all sorts of tests to make sure, as far as it is humanly possible, that both survive. Except or the 2-headed baby somewhere in the middle east not too long ago. That baby had 2 heads on one body--both heads showed different personalities--both were going to die unless one head was removed. There was not much choice as to which one. They removed the one head and saved the other child. Don't know what happened after that to the surviving child.--the operation was successful, though.
One of the disciples was a physician--medicine is a gift from God--how do you know that the surgery is not within God's plan to ease the suffering of these people?? Jesus healed the blind, the lame, the leper--fed the hungry, at times, a whole village would be healed--and afterwards the disciples did the same thing, including raising the dead. What makes you think they shouldn't have done those things?--wasn't it God's plan for those people to be blind and lame and dead?? God uses what is available--like doctors and drugs and medical equipment--is it your believe that all dialysis patients should be allowed to die and not have either the dialysis or the transplants? There were dialysis patients that lived for over 35 years on dialysis--there are babies, including newborns on dialysis--should thy all die because you think it's God's will??
 
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Think of the horrible agony and suffering the parents go through in these situations. Is that part of God's plan as well, or is it considered collateral damage? Instead of intervening through 3rd party and after the fact, why not prevent it from happening in the first place or remedy it as soon as starts to occur?
 
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Prevent it from happening? How? Abortion is murder. So not get kids or something or pray for healthy kids and if someone doesn't know how lay your hands on the kids and heal them in Jesus' Name if the parents allow that and if Christians believe and do that. If not the doctor must help out.
 
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No, that's not how God created man originally, it's a result of the fall that sickness came in. Otherwise they were also playing God by giving someone medicine.

God "allows" the special form/condition of body on each one of us at the birth with a good purpose. If a child is born with defects and is only expected to live 20 years on the earth, that is what God allowed to that child.

Doctor can apply technology to that child to prolong his life (a good medical reason). If that happened, it is also allowed by God. The doctor is not playing God. If the child is treated at the end of his expected life and is failed, the doctor is not guilty. But if the doctor tried to treat the child at his 10-years old age (healthy and has 10 more years life expectancy) and killed the child, then he is guilty.

If the child came to the earth to make his parents and the doctor saved in Christ, the child would even be better off than you and me in the Heaven.
 
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How you extrapolated abortion out of what I said, well, only you know that for sure. (Maybe abortion is a hot button issue for you?)

Anyway, I was asking why God couldn't intervene, (heal/correct), the situation, while in the embryo stage, or, prevent it from happening in the first place. To busy? Needs more glory and worship?
 
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