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So, you are all for coexistence as long as we submit.
Originally Posted by Futuwwa
I'm all for coexistence. But if you insist on presenting military barriers to the spread of Islam, expect us to break them down.
They are afraid of Churches because they live in darkness. They are afraid of the light because they know that light destroys the dark. Islam lives in the darkness of fear and coercion. Where the light shines, Islam dies.
because it is against shari'a law that is why. So religious freedom is only to the Muslims not to others. Admit it and get over it... No reason to spread lies. They do not hold water anyways. Let the world know that percecution is one way street towards anyone else who is not muslim....
NONSENSE… You are so full of it, it is now overflowing from your mouth. Please prove me a liar just once. But as seen in today’s example, you have been proven a liar once again, this time by InnocentOdion. Islam forms and establishes the ummah and Islamic ummah commits crimes in the name of Islam. Regardless they distort your scriptures or hadith, they base their collective behavior tradition on Islamic tradition. Muslim is justified through this ummah for shame and honor. Islam has not concept of guilt because its foundations are not based on the law of God, so it substitutes this by ummah’s authority. Ummah condemns or justifies the guilty/accused. Such example is your fellow Muhammad Atta. While he was condemned in the west, east praised him, God only knows you did too, but that is another issue. An evil act is understood in relation to the particular ummah, an evil act that cannot be hidden in front of entire ummah must be condemned, and there is Tulip’s situation. In a situation like that a muslim must seek cleansing of his shame and dishonor before this ummah. Learn the importance of that cultural luggage that comes with Islam. Even honor killings might not be a part Islamic doctrine or teaching, it is a KNOWN part of Islamic ummah. Learn to accept it and live with it. It is a fact. I was no drunken DJ trash seeking easiest religion on earth… I grew up into it.yaqov said:
So the OT was unfair when it talked about the gentiles that way? why do you Christians abstain from your scriptures? What is that spiritual view you are talking about, tell me where did Jesus abolish the OT or told you to view it spiritually?
What media are you talking about? Doesn't he know that he deluses orthodoxy people when they watch the other protestants on the channel. Sorry the protestants are considered heretic sects and I heard an audio by your pope about that before but I don't have it now I may search for it. These protestants deny the second canonical books and consider it an apocrypha, isn't this a heresy? They also deny the tradition. Isn't it a heresy? Or each one has his own holy spirit?
To set you free from the Romans who were persecuting your ancestors that they were hiding in the caves and asking for huge taxes that the Jizya was very small compared to the Roman taxes, then you can choose your religion, we didn't force anyone to convert to Islam, you are a live example.
My motherland?
It seems you forgot about the calculation I gave you last time. As for the Bible, you yourself answered the question afterwards, Saudi Arabia is a special case same as Vatican, but as for the Bible, believe me, when I began to read the Bible, all what it has done is that it increased my faith in Islam, so saying it is banned because it contains the truth is a lie. And I challenge any Christian on Earth to prove to me the authenticity of the Bible.There are already many Muslims killed in Iraq by US forces, so this is irrelevant.
So people in Greece also prevented building mosques because they are afraid from the truth. You answered yourself, again, Saudi Arabia as Vatican is a special case. Besides, not only churches which are not allowed, but all other worship places than Islam, does this mean that other religions than Islam and Christianity have the truth? A sick logic.
First of all, when Sheikhs pray against Jews and Christians, they mean those who kill Muslims as the case in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan,Chechynia,....etc. not all Jews and Christians, besides, no one said that Christians are sons of apes and pigs, nor even all the Jews, God said about the Jews (only not Jews and Christians):" and he made from a portion of them the apes, the pigs,....." the verse, but you are saying is a clear misunderstanding, you hear a part of a sentence, then put some pepper on it to make it look like that.
If there was really a persecution, they won't have been permitted to do so. Besides, the weakness of Muslims is not a standard, and In Sha' Allah, Muslims will wake up and have companies that will get your companies down.
God didn't ask the Jews to spread their religion by force in the OT ..all the OT wars was for the earth..yes he asked us to view it spiritually when he gave us higher level of commands ..for example he didn't allow the jews to kill the sinner woman but the OT was allowing that ..think in that point
Also when he did miracles at saturday and that was against the OT ... do you want more examples !!!!!
what will happen to the Orthodox when they watch Protestant channel !!!! we have problems with the Protestant but our pope calls them " Brothers " even if we see them heretics..
so he came with armies for the sake of the Copts ??? PLEASE SAY reasonable reason !!!! is there any source says that the copts asked him to come and save Egypt !!!!!! so funny my dear , from where you get this ??? tell me one source says that he came with armies to save the copts , give me one source says that the copts invited him to save them
what about the other countries which has been conquered by Islam !!!! Mohamed the conqueror took armies to save who ????
so America went to Iraq to save the muslims from Sadam .....LOL LOL
Don't tell me that ( El gezya ) is like the Taxes ..if you didn't pay el gezya u have two choices to be killed or to convert to Islam but if u didn't pay the taxes no one will force you to change your religion
My motherland?
Yes , it is your mother land where the Arabic language came from there , Again i ask you to be reasonable a bit
Saudi Arabia is not like Vatican , i will tell you why , Because you could build mosques at Italy but Vatican is very very small country inside Italy all their people from the monks , you want to build mosque for the monks !! LOL
But in saudi Arabia there are about million christian so they need churches , We don't ask to build Churches in Mecca , we want to build it in Saudi
So Vatican is like Mecca , But saudi Arabia is not like Vatican...you got it !!!!
And your prophet ordered you not to let any religion in the Arab Island for that all the Arabian Gulf countries doesn't include any church till recent years , but thanks God they allowed recenlty to build few churches..
Why Mohamed scare from the Churches !!!!!
The American killed them or they have been killed by the Islamic terrorists !!! Did you hear about christians kidnaped muslim cleric before ??? for sure not ..but every day you will hear about muslims kill priests and nuns and at last they killed The Caldian Bishop at Iraq
My dear ..Greece is full of muslims and mosques ...they didn't agree on the place and any country have its authority to choose the place .....hey think logically ..Saudi Arabia doesn't allow the bible to get in..Tell me about any country doesn't allow to get the Quran In !!
So the Religion of peace doesn't forgive its enemies!!! so don't tell us about the forgivness in Islam...i wonder when i hear Imams talking about the forgivness in Islam ...When Mohamed was week he used to forgive but once he became strong he started to fight and kill and marry a lot of women
That's what the muslims think , you want to get us down !!! you must thank us because we help our country to get up by our efforts and our work , you should thank us because muslims and christians could find jobs because of our big comapnies... i am sad to see egyptian thinks like that ...The religion of Peace full your hearts with hate !!! you want to get the egyptian comapnies down just because it is owned by Copts !!!!!!!!!! so sad
First of all, OT wars were not for earth, for deuteronomy doesn't say so:
Go and read about the Spanish inquisitions, or you'd better read deu 7:5.
There is a large difference between forgiveness and humbleness, and between personal problems and religious problems, in our personal problems we can forgive as we like, but when the case is that our religion is fought, this has nothing to do with forgiveness because this is not our right, this is God's right, his prophet(Peace be upon him) and those Muslims killed everywhere.
First of all, you are talking as if you own the whole economy which is not the case, you own a large portion compared to your population, but still Muslims own most of the economy. Besides, please don't put words in my mouth, I didn't say that I will come and destroy your companies, all what I meant that we will open companies that will be much better than yours, and we won't need your companies. That's what I meant, so don't try to play the role of the humble guy.
