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TimRout

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Non-believers can lose their conscience after repeated exposure to extreme rebellion. This is manifested, for example, in the lives of false teachers [1 Tim. 4:2]. But this does not apply to believers. Are you having trouble feeling sorry for your sins?
 
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I think it's a process guys. Remember, we're sinners saved by the grace of God, and He will change our heart as we go. We can't possibly change our own heart. Christ changes our heart as we go. It's about trusting in what He says guys. He loved us and died so we could be reconciled to Him, and He will complete the work He started in us, but we have to learn to just trust in Him. As you go, you will love God more and be more assured. He does this too.
 
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But how long, I mean I know that no one can definatly ever know. but I have been like this for like 7months & I'm tired of it & I've wanted God but nothing has changed or happened to me. I feel like if I had maybe not even wanted Him that I wouldn;t ahve ended up like this. Does the Bible teach repentance as sorrow or as a change or mind. Because I think people blow the whole sorrow thing out of proportion.
 
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Listen, you can't feel possibly feel sorrowful over your sins without God. You can feel guilty over them, and you agree with God that sin is sin, so it's a change of mind. You also believe that Jesus died to save you from the consequences of them (God's wrath), and that you wish to live a Godly life no matter how you feel?

As sinners we love to sin. When we are released from the power and guilt of sin through Christ we don't want to do them anymore, because He died to set us free. Sometimes we do, and when we do we know that if we confess He is just to forgive and cleanse us. So confess your sins to Him, know they are forgiven, and that you have been cleansed, and move on! Your conscience will become more tuned to sin as you walk with God in His Word. The Holy Spirit will cleanse your conscience (and yes, it is possible to sear your conscience as a believer too). But you have to have faith in Him. He IS with you, and you are growing, even if you don't feel He is, ok?
 
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I want to believe Jesus died for ME, I believe He died for the sins of some people but what about the blasphemy of the Spirit. He died for that sin, right? why wouldn't He forgive it? I want to listen to my Christian music (& enjoy it & not feel worthless), I want to read the Bible & learn from it & enjoy it & look to God for answers & my life. But I worry, what if its all in vain and Im just worried about Hell. (which I am.)
 
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I want to believe Jesus died for ME, I believe He died for the sins of some people but what about the blasphemy of the Spirit. He died for that sin, right? why wouldn't He forgive it? I want to listen to my Christian music (& enjoy it & not feel worthless), I want to read the Bible & learn from it & enjoy it & look to God for answers & my life. But I worry, what if its all in vain and Im just worried about Hell. (which I am.)


This is difficult to explain Caty and i dont pretend to understand it but According to the scriptures Jesus died for all sin period every sin and all sin there was not one he did not die for he was the propitiation for the sins of the world ... Every sin that you can imagine was laid on Jesus every one so this is not an issue of atonement he made atonement for all sins ...
 
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Blasphemy of the Spirit is rejecting the wooing of the Spirit to come to Christ SO MUCH that your heart gets so hard the gospel has absolutely no affect upon you and you will not change your mind. So, someone in this deplorable position would NEVER want Christ or His forgiveness, ok? Someone like this would NEVER realize their state, and if they did, then they hadn't actually committed the sin, ok?

If you seek the Lord and His forgiveness it's right there waiting for you. Trust in Him and what He did on the cross 2000 years ago to save you, not your feelings.
 
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then why is one unforgiveable, if you believe on Jesus or you want too then how can Blasphemy of the Spirit be unforgiveable.


Also we tend to think that one sin is greater in Gods eyes it isnt because he is a holy God ..

Caty i understand ,this is something im having trouble understanding but the scriptures do say that he died for all sin ...now that doesnt mean everyone will be saved of course but it does mean that salvation has been paid for on behalf of all .. so it can have nothing to do with the payment of sin ..
 
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So, if God is a forgiving God, Do you think He woudk turn someone away who wanted Him to save them??


according to the scriptures the answer is no God desires all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth


thats hard for me to believe but God said it himself ,,,

for some screwed up reason we have this awful idea that God is just waiting to punish us but actually God says he is reconciled to the world ...he now stands with his arms wide open it isnt God that has to be won over its us Caty
 
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Caty you and I seem to be going through much of the same thing. I feel like if I had never come to God that this might not have ever happened to me and I think that even though you have come to God you can still lose your salvation so what's the point. To me it's like God can just give up on you withdrawl His spirit and harden your heart at the drop of a hat and you have no choice in the matter because it's all up to Him who is saved. With me it feels like I'm the one trying with God and He's holding back..now I know that's not true but like I said it feels that way.


Someone mentioned that even a believer can sear their conscience...if that happens then what? Something that really confuses me is that God says that He will never leave you or forsake you and it also says in the Bible that we are sealed until the day of redemption. So if you have asked Jesus into your life and have had the HS leading you how can you lose Him if you are sealed by Him until redemption?

Why would God call someone who accepts Him only for that person to later on reject Him and then be damned for all eternity..why not have just left that person in the nonbelieving state they were in and withdrawl the Spirit if that was going to be the end solution anyways? I know you're not supposed to question God and I'm not really trying to I'm just trying to understand it all.
 
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Why would God call someone who accepts Him only for that person to later on reject Him and then be damned for all eternity..why not have just left that person in the nonbelieving state they were in and withdrawl the Spirit if that was going to be the end solution anyways? I know you're not supposed to question God and I'm not really trying to I'm just trying to understand it all.


I wonder the EXACT same thing.
 
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