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Nick_Loves_Abba

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Originally posted by Fisher of Men
when jesus died,did we get the same power he had while he was on earth?Any bible versus greatly appreciated.

No. I believe no. Jesus is God. God became a man as the ultimate showing of love and sacrafice for a spiritually dying people. But...

When Jesus died, he gave us the Holy Spirit to guide us and comfort us.

I'm going to look to see in e-Sword, Brb.
 
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I am not christian so i would rather not post about Jesus (at least not on this thread) b/c it will start great controversy (I have opened the floodgates in ths forum b4...way 2 many posts 2 handle...)
I just want to reply to Fisher of Men
when jesus died,did we get the same power he had while he was on earth?Any bible versus greatly appreciated.

We CAN do some things that we have always been able to do, even before Jesus, such as healings, influencing outcomes with our will (or if you prefer "magic"), creative visualization (similar to previous), telepathy, remote viewing, foretelling the future, etc... People have long done this (archeologists say this predates chritianity by AT LEAST 28 000 years, you cant argue with carbon dating...)

So we have some "powers" but they do not come CLOSE to that of the God/Goddess/Higher Power/Spirit/It/Jehova...whatev...
 
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Originally posted by ex_christian
I am not christian so i would rather not post about Jesus (at least not on this thread) b/c it will start great controversy (I have opened the floodgates in ths forum b4...way 2 many posts 2 handle...)
I just want to reply to Fisher of Men

We CAN do some things that we have always been able to do, even before Jesus, such as healings, influencing outcomes with our will (or if you prefer "magic"), creative visualization (similar to previous), telepathy, remote viewing, foretelling the future, etc... People have long done this (archeologists say this predates chritianity by AT LEAST 28 000 years, you cant argue with carbon dating...)

So we have some "powers" but they do not come CLOSE to that of the God/Goddess/Higher Power/Spirit/It/Jehova...whatev...
Carbon dating is unreliable.
 
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John 14:10-13 "Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. "Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves. "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. "And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

Hope that helps some
 
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Faith is the key that unlocks the power of God within us. Even Peter could only take a few steps on the water and He was with God in the flesh (Jesus). It was not a lack of power that caused Peter to sink, it was a lack of faith. Jesus told the woman that Her faith had healed her. With faith we have the power of God, that is the same power that Jesus claimed. He said He only did what the Father wanted. Can you imagine the power of God in us? Only by faith can we have it. There is a catch, faith is a gift. So that leads us to prayer. Pray for faith as Paul prayed for the continued faith of all believers.


MT 8:13 Then Jesus said to the centurion, "Go! It will be done just as you believed it would." And his servant was healed at that very hour.



MT 9:22 Jesus turned and saw her. "Take heart, daughter," he said, "your faith has healed you." And the woman was healed from that moment.



Blessings
 
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