I told you, simply dropping the will of God to cozy up with the will of man, two opposing ideologies.
Answer the questions asked. If you regard the church to have apostasized in constantines time, state PRECISELY which doctrines you disagree with. If you regard the church to have no authority, why then do you agree with the products of that authority: the new testament, creed, and repudation of heresies.
No, man did in making doctrine fit the world instead of the Kingdom.
Neither. It is quite possible to have the creed because everything in it is true. What poses a problem is what was purposely left out so as to not step on the toes of the adversary and it's minions... the will of God and the Kingdom.
I repeat, they did not renounce a thing. Authority just switched sides but expected the masses to follow the commandments while they enjoyed rule.
Did you see the empire conform to God's will? Have you seen the leaders reject what Jesus rejected or did they carry on knowing if they played their cards right all this could be theirs?? That is the direction it went until some 200 years ago people got tired of them being king makers for their own gain.
What exactly is your problem with this? It can't be a matter of defending a sect of Christianity that didn't even have a say at the time, Byzantine having overcome Latin.
Your knowledge of history really is weak. My problem is you make claims of apostasy knowing nothing about the church. Nor can you point to a single doctrine of constantines time to support your view. Not a one.
Well the Apostles elected the first bishops, so if you read their writings which are clearly catholic, then that means the elders(bishops) that the Apostles themselves chose and wrote to follow, are responsible for your claimed fall.
You know it's against forum rules to condemn other people of not being saved correct? I'm glad you know the intentions and spiritual state of every Christian who disagrees with you throughout history. I though that was only for Christ. Maybe he will let you help him judge?
WHO. You keep saying they but there were plenty of God bearing, miracle working rulers, bishops and Priests. So you can't condemn everyone so broadly.
You are the one suggesting that. What is your motive, especially regarding the false witness of apostasy? Are you not able to simply say yes or no to the op?
YES actually. The empire did conform to God's will. People went to church up to five times a day and there were more Saints then can I can count. There were monasteries raised everywhere where men spent entire days and nights praying, fasting, and repenting. Millions came for the pilgrimages to Holy Places to pray, and the beauty of the Byzantine liturgy caused all the slavs to convert to Christianity.
Churches have a habit of defending themselves and their little kingdoms and seeing that as more important than defending Jesus and His teachings of the true Kingdom.
People maybe but not leadership other than to try and appear as if this wasn't just another way to hold power. No different than today. Man using God to justify self rather than change to suit the will of God.
